Mercurii, 13 Aprilis, 1642.
PRAYERS.
Tenterden Lecturer.
THE humble Petition of the Parishioners of Tenterden for * * * *
Ordered, That Mr. Barry shall be recommended to
the said Parishioners to be their Lecturer, to preach
every Lord's Day in the Afternoon, and every Friday in
the Week: And that Dr. Peake do permit the said Mr.
Barry the Use of his Pulpit every Sunday in the Afternoon, and every Friday, without any Let or Disturbance.
And if the said Dr. Peake shall not forthwith yield Obedience to this Order, he is then required to attend the
House, to give an Account thereof.
Letter referred.
Ordered, That this Letter from Mr. Aspinewall, of the
Seventh of April, be forthwith sent to the Commissioners
for Irish Affairs, by some Member of this House, that is
a Commissioner; and that the said Commissioner give
an Account To-morrow Morning what is done upon this
Letter.
Forces for Ireland.
Ordered, that Mr. Jo. Moore be forthwith sent down
with a Letter to Sir Wm. Brereton, to the Lord Lisle,
the Sheriff of the County of Chester and the Mayor of
Chester, and Mr. Moore, or any Two of them, to see
that all possible Means be used in the Transporting the
Horse Troops, that are in Lancashire and Cheshire, into
Ireland: And that an Account be given unto this House,
why they have been so long there, and not gone: And
if there be any Defect of Shipping, that all cannot go,
yet that so many of them shall be shipped as there are
Shipping for: And if, upon Examination, they find an
apparent Neglect in the Officers of the Troops, or
otherwise, that they, or any Two of them, do forthwith
certify this House of their Neglect, to the end that they
may be discharged.
Mr. Vaughan, Sir H. Vane, and Sir Gil. Gerard, are
forthwith to withdraw, and to prepare this Letter.
Judgment against Mr. Attorney.
Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to
know of their Lordships when they shall be ready, that
this House may come up to demand Judgment against
Mr. Attorney.
Sir Peter Wentworth carried up this Message.
Earls of Essex and Holland not to attend the King.
Mr. Holles reports the Conference had with the Lords
Yesterday:
That the Lord Admiral told them, That he was to
acquaint them with some Things that passed, concerning
some noble Members of their House.
That Four Lords of their House, prime Officers of his
Majesty's Houshold, had received Letters from his Majesty, to require their personal Attendance upon his Majesty, at Yorke, who intended to celebrate his Easter and
St. George's Feast there; That, directed to the Earl of
Holland, from Yorke, of Twenty-third of March, (unto
which all the rest, in all Particulars, were alike) was read.
Upon the Receipt of these Letters, these Lords communicated them to their Lordships: And thereupon the
Lords appointed the Lord Keeper to write a Letter to
his Majesty; and thereby do give Reasons for Excuse of
their not Attendance upon his Majesty, as was required.
This Letter bears Date the Twenty-ninth of March 1642.
Then a Letter, of the Ninth of April, from his Majesty to the Earl of Holland (the like was sent to the Earl
of Essex) was read; wherein his Majesty charges them
of a former Disobedience; and commands them, That
if they shall persist in their Disobedience, they are then
commanded to deliver up the Ensigns of their Offices to
the Lord Falkland, One of the principal Secretaries of
State.
Then the Lord Admiral declared what that Disobedience was: That those Lords being commanded by his
Majesty to attend his Majesty at Hampton-court, they
were commanded by the Committee at Grocers-hall, to
attend the Service of the Commonwealth, and the Affairs of the Kingdom in Parliament.
Next, an Order made in the Lords House, made in
this Business, was read in hæc verba; viz.
Martis, 12°Aprilis, 1642 Ordered, That the Earl of Essex and the Earl of
Holland shall attend this House, in regard of the great
and urgent Affairs now depending in Parliament."
Then a Resolution of the Lords, upon that Business,
was read in hæc verba; viz.
Martis, 12°Aprilis, 1642 post meridiem
Resolved, &c. Nemine Contradicente, That the Attendance of the Lord Chamberlain, and the Earl of Holland, upon the Service of this House, according to the
Order of this House, is no Disobedience to the King's
Command."
Next, He said, That, after the Order made commanding the Earl of Essex, and the Earl of Holland, to attend
the House, they have resigned their Places into the Hands
of the Lord Falkland, One of the principal Secretaries of
State.
That the Lords are very sensible of this Proceeding, as
an Effect of dangerous and evil Counsel; which, as it
concerns the whole Kingdom, they doubt not but you
will have an equal Resentment of it with them, that Persons of their Merit have suffered for their good Affections
to the Publick.
Ordered, That the Debate of this Business be resumed
so soon as the Message shall be delivered.
Proceedings on King's Message.
A Message from the Lords, * * * *
The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That
they have considered his Majesty's last Message; and
have passed a Vote upon it Nemine contradicente: Which
they have likewise sent, and desire your Concurrence;
and, if you shall concur herein, they have then appointed
a Committee of their House, of Sixteen Lords, to join
with a proportionable Number of this House, to take
this Vote into Consideration, and the King's Message
in all Parts, except in the Militia; and to offer their Opinions and Reasons thereupon, as they shall think fit:
And have appointed them to meet this Afternoon, at
Two of Clock, in the Painted Chamber.
Resolved, upon the Question, Nemine contradicente,
That it is most dangerous and unsafe, and that this House
cannot consent unto his Majesty's going into Ireland.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That they
have taken into Consideration your Message; and do
agree to the Lords in their Vote: And have appointed
a Committee of a proportionable Number to meet with
a Committee of the Lords, with the like Power; and to
meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Painted
Chamber.
The Members of the House are injoined not to go out
of the House.
Mr. Pym, Mr. Holles, Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Solicitor,
Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Pierrepoint, Mr. Nath. Fienis, Sir
Jo. Evelyn, Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir Henry Ludlow, Sir
Ro. Coke, Mr. Marten, Sir Ph. Stapilton, Sir Hugh
Cholmeley, Lord Dungarvan, Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Sir Martin Lumley, Mr. Long, Mr. Strode, Mr. Crue, Sir Jo.
Corbett, Sir Sam. Owfield, Mr. Hotham, Sir Wm. Lewis,
Mr. Morley, Sir Jo. Potts, Sir Wm. Strickland, Sir Wm.
Litton, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Mr. Whittacre, Sir Christ.
Yelverton, Sir Tho. Barrington;
This Committee is appointed to join with a Committee
of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to take this
Vote into Consideration; and the King's Message, in all
Parts, excepting the Militia; and to offer their Opinions
and Reasons thereupon, as they shall think fit: And are to
meet this Afternoon, at Two, in the Painted Chamber.
Earls of Essex and Holland not to attend the King.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Attendance of
the Lord Chamberlain, and the Earl of Holland, upon the
Service of the House of Peers, according to the Order of
that House, is no Disobedience to the King's Commands.
Resolved, upon the Question, That no Member of
either House of Parliament ought to absent himself from
the Service of that House whereof he is a Member, upon
any Command from his Majesty, without Leave first had
of that House whereof he is a Member.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Licence or Dispensation sent by his Majesty to the Earl of Essex, and
the Earl of Holland, to discharge them from their Attendance upon the Service of that House, contrary to the
Order of that House, is a high Breach of Privilege.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Displacing of
the Earl of Essex, and the Earl of Holland, from their
several Offices at this Time, and upon this Occasion, is
an Injury to the Parliament, and the whole Kingdom.
Resolved, upon the Question, That what Person soever
shall accept of either of these Offices thus taken away,
until Satisfaction be given to both Houses of Parliament,
shall be accounted to do an ignoble Act, and to offer an
Affront to the Parliament, and thereby to render himself unworthy of any Place of Honour or Trust in the
Commonwealth.
Resolved, upon the Question, That these Proceedings
are the Effects of evil Council, to discourage good Men
from doing their Duty, and tend to the Increase of the
Division between the King and his People, and to the
Disturbance of the Peace of the Kingdom.
Ordered, That a Message shall be sent to the Lords at
their next Sitting, to desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Matter of the last
Conference, touching the Letters sent to the Earl of
Essex, and the Earl of Holland; and that these Votes
shall be delivered at that Conference.
Mr. Rogers is to carry up this Message.
Ordered, That the Matter of these Proceedings, concerning the Earl of Essex, and the Earl of Holland, shall
be referred to the Committee, to be added to the Declaration now under Commitment.
Mr. Pym, Sir Ph. Stapilton, Mr. Holles, are appointed
Managers of this Conference.
Deputy Lieutenants.
The Lord Lieutenant of the County of Bucks did recommend to this House, that Sir Rich. Pigott, Sir Tho.
Sanders, and Captain Stafford, be added to the Deputy
Lieutenants of that County: Their Names were read, and
approved of; and ordered to be returned to the Lords at
the next Message.
Letter to Brereton, &c.
Mr. Vaughan presents from the Committee a Letter
Commissionary, to be sent to Sir Wm. Brereton and
others, to enable them to inquire after such Neglects as
have been used, either by the Commissary, or the Officers,
of those Troops of Horse that have lain long at Chester,
and not transported over into Ireland: The which was
read, and assented unto; and ordered to be fair written
for Mr. Speaker to sign.
Earls Salisbury and Holland, &c. not to attend the King.
Die Martis, 29° Martii 1642 May it please Your Majesty,
I AM commanded, by the House of Lords, to represent unto Your Majesty, That whereas the Lord Chamberlain of Your Majesty's Household, the Earls of Salisbury
and Holland, and the Lord Savill, have communicated
unto that House several Letters, under your Privy Signet,
requiring their Repair to Your Majesty at York, where
You intended to celebrate both Easter and St. George's
Feast; and this You expect from them, as great Officers of Your Household, and Counsellors of State; The
Lords have seriously considered the Affairs of Your
Kingdoms of England and Ireland to be in such Condition, as they cannot give Way to these Lords to be absent
from Parliament, without prejudicing Your Majesty's Service, and the Affairs of the Kingdom, which, by Your
Majesty's Writ, and the Law of the Land, being Counsellors of State, they are bound to attend.
These Reasons the House doth not doubt but Your
Majesty will approve.
CHARLES, R.
King's Letters requiring Attendance.
Right Trusty and Well-beloved Consin and Counsellor, We greet you well. Whereas We are resolved to
keep both Our Easter and St. George's Feast in this Our
City of York; We hold it therefore very requisite and necessary, that, for Our Honour and Service, the chief Officers of Our House attend Us here in Person. Our Will
and Command therefore is, That you repair hither to
Our Court as soon as you may conveniently, to give your
Attendance in the Place and Charge which you hold
under Us, as a Prime Officer of Our House, and Counsellor of State: Wherein, as we doubt not your ready
Observance of this Our Command, so We shall expect
your present Answer thereunto.
Given at our Court at York, this
Twenty third of March 1641.
CHARLES, R.
Right Trusty and Well-beloved Cousin and Counsellor,
We greet you well. We are so much unsatisfied with
the Excuse you have made for not obeying Our Command for your Attendance on Us here, according to
the Duty of your Place in Our Household, as we have
thought good by these Our Letters to second a former
Command: and, that you may be more inexcusable, We
accompanied Our said Command with Our Licence, and
Dispensation inclosed, for your Absence from Parliament; willing and commanding you (all Delays and Excuses set apart) to attend Us here before the Eighteenth
of this Month, when We have appointed to keep St.
George's Feast: Or, in case you shall persist in your
Disobedience, We require and command you to deliver
up into the Hands of the Lord Falkland, One of Our
Principal Secretaries of State, for Our Use, the Ensign
of your Office, which, when We last parted from Whitehall, you offered to resign to Us, rather than you would
at that Time (as We had commanded you) wait upon Us
so far as Hampton-court. But We did then, of Our
Grace and Favour, wish you to consider better of it, in
hope you would, upon further Consideration, not have
seconded that Disobedience.
Given at our Court at York, the
Ninth of April, 1642.