Die Veneris, 19 Nov. 1641.
ORDERED, That Sir Rich. Onslowe, who has
bought Lands of Sir Richard Weston, shall pay the
Money due, according to the Bargain, unto the Creditors mentioned in the Schedule and Indenture, notwithstanding any former Order of this House.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the better Payment
of several Sums of Money therein specified, by and out
of the Estate of Sir Tho. Dawes.
Mr. Vassall, Captain Rainsborow, Mr. Mathew, Mr.
Green, Mr. Bence, Mr. Rolle, Sir H. Vane, are to view
the Rates of the Victuals of the Navy; and to report their
Opinion to the House of them.
The Amendments to the Declaration were read; and
put to the Question; and affented unto.
Ordered, That the Word "Degradation," in that Part
of the Declaration where it speaks of the Canons, be
That the Words "extinguish the Monuments of
Idolatry" be altered to these Words, "take away the
Monuments of Idolatry."
Resolved, upon the Question, That this Declaration,
with the Amendments thus read, shall be forthwith ingrossed; and brought in, ingrossed, To-morrow at Two
List of Officers.
A List of the Officers of Sir Simon Harcourt's Regi
ment was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Navy.... how
the Kingdom may be served upon better Rates hereafter,
in victualing of Ships to be set forth to Sea, than now
Proceedings concerning Goringe.
Some Letters from Portsmouth, that reflected upon
Colonel Goringe, were read.
And Colonel Goringe, being present, made Answer to
each Particular that was contained in those Letters.
Whereupon this House doth declare, and approve of
Colonel Goring his faithful Service, in his Place of
Governor of the Town of Portsmouth: And that they
hold it fit he repair again to his Place of Trust.
It was moved, that the Parties that writ these Two
Letters might make Satisfaction to Colonel Goringe:
But the House conceived they were Persons so mean
and unworthy, that they could not make Reparation fit
for a Person of his Worth to have; and therefore gave
Directions the Letters should be burnt.
Ships for Ireland.
Whereas it was ordered, upon the 17th of November
Instant, that Four thousand Pounds should be imprest
to the Treasurers of the Navy, towards the Victualing,
Furnishing and Setting to Sea, Four Ships appointed for
the Service of Ireland: It is this Day Ordered, That Three
thousand Pounds of the said Four thousand Pounds, and
One thousand Pounds more, shall be imprest upon the
Victualler of the Navy, towards the Victualing of the
Ships aforesaid: And that One thousand Pounds shall
be imprest to the Treasurers of the Navy, towards the
Furnishing and Setting forth the Ships aforesaid, out of
the Fifty thousand Pounds, that is to come in from the
City for the Occasions of Ireland; and is to be paid
out of the Money that shall hereafter come in upon the
Bill of Tonage and Poundage: And this House doth
agree, for this present, to the Propositions made by the
Victualler of the Navy; and that the Residue of the
Money shall be secured to be paid, at the Return of the
Ships, upon Account.
Ordered, That the Hundred Pounds, now offered to
be freely given by John Packer Esquire, for the Affairs
in Ireland, be paid to the Chamber of the City of London:
And the Chamberlain of the City of London is authorized, by this House, to receive all such Monies as shall
be freely given, by any Person whatsoever, for the Service aforesaid: And that Certificate be made from time
to time to this House, of such Sums as shall be so given
as aforesaid; and of the Names of such Persons as
shall give the same: And Mr. Rous is desired to give
Mr. Packer Thanks, from this House, for his good
Affection in giving the said Sum.
Loan from the City.
Ordered, That the Ordinance for Security to be given
to the City of London, for Monies lent, and to be lent,
shall be recommitted to the said Committee: And Sir
Jo. Colpeper is added thereunto.
Parlimentary Protections, &c.
Mr. Reynolds reported the Bill concerning Protections,
with the Amendments: And the Bill with the Amendments assented unto; and, upon the Question, ordered
to be ingrossed; and brought in To-morrow Morning.
Mr. Reynolds likewise reports the Bill, intituled, An
Act to take away all Protections, and all pretended
Privileges from Arrest; and, upon Question, recommitted to the same Committee.
Examining Russell, &c.
Sir John Clotworthy, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr. Hollis,
Sir H. Vane, Mr. Whittacre, are appointed to examine
one Mr. Le Russell, that spoke very dangerous Words
concerning the Rebellion in Ireland, as this House was
informed: And likewise, that they should consider what
is fit to be done with those poor People, Papists, that
were apprehended upon the general Order of searching,
the other Night.
A Message from the Lords, by J. Reeve and Doctor
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand * * *
1. The Custody of the Isle of Wight,-
2. Securing the Persons of some Recusants.-
3. A Petition from divers Officers of the late Army.-
4. Concerning some Ships to be appointed for the
Guarding of the narrow Seas.
Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that the
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Mr. Hide, Mr. Pym, Sir H. Vane, Sir John Hotham,
Mr. Hampden, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Mr. Pym reports the Conference:
For the putting the Custody of the Isle of Wight into
other Hands, their Lordships Answer was read; viz.
That, in the Desire of the Commons, concerning the
Earl of Portland, it seemeth, by the Reasons alledged
by them, that they are doubtful of his Religion; wherein
he hath publickly, in the House, made so solemn Protestation of his having been ever bred in the Protestant
Religion, and of his firm Resolution to live and die in the
same, as hath given good Content in that Particular;
and, for that which concerns his Father, he affirmed, that
he lived and died a Protestant: Which the Lords thought
good to acquaint them with.
Concerning the Securing the Persons of the Recusants,
they have deferred their Resolution herein, until this
House bring up a particular List of their Names.
Next,-a Petition of the Colonels and Chiefs, presented to the Earl of Holland, General of his Majesty's
Army in the late Expedition in the North; which was
read, concerning the Arrear of their Pay, trusted till
about this time.
Concerning some Ships for the Guard of the narrow
Seas, propounded to be considered of as a Particular recommended by his Majesty, and of great Importance for
Affairs of Ireland.
Ordered, That the House shall rise; and that the Grand
Committee of the whole House shall afterwards sit to
consider of the Names of the Persons of Papists to be
secured; and shall have Power to adjourn themselves till
To-morrow Morning, if they shall see Occasion.