House of Lords Journal Volume 11
2 April 1663

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 2 April 1663', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666 (1767-1830), pp. 503-504. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=14312 Date accessed: 22 October 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 2 die Aprilis.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke.
Epus. London.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Ely.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Rochester.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. St. Asaph.
Epus. Carlile.
Epus. Cov. et Lich.
Epus. Hereford.
Epus. Chester.
Dux Cumberland.
Ds. Cancellarius.
Ds. Thesaurarius Angl.
Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli.
Dux Richmond.
(fn. *) Dux Albemarle.
Marq. Winton.
Marq. of Worcester.
Marq. Dorchester.
L. Great Chamberlain.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Shrewsbury.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwick.
Comes Devon.
Comes Midd.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Berks.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Newport.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes St. Albans.
Comes Essex.
Comes Carlile.
Viscount Hereford.
Viscount Say et Seale.
Viscount Campden.
Viscount de Stafford.
Ds. Abergaveny.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Berkley de Berk.
Ds. Sandes.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Tenham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Howard de Ch.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Poulett.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard de Esc.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Ward.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Bellasis.
Ds. Lexington.
Ds. Berkley de Strat.
Ds. Holles.
Ds. Townsend.
Ds. Ashley.
Ds. Crewe.

PRAYERS.

The Lord Chancellor reported, "That his Lordship had presented the Petition of both Houses of Parliament to the King, concerning Jesuits and Priests." Whereupon His Majesty gave this Answer under His Majesty's own Hand; which his Lordship read, as follows:

King's Answer to the Petition against Priests and Jesuits.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,"

"You do not expect that I should give you an Answer presently to your Petition. Yet I will tell you, that I will speedily send you an Answer; which, I am confident, will be to your Satisfaction. It may be, the general Jealousy of the Nation hath made this Address necessary; and indeed I believe nothing hath contributed more to that Jealousy, than My own Confidence that it was impossible there should be any such Jealousy, and the Effects of that Confidence. But I shall give you Satisfaction; and then I am sure you will easily satisfy and compose the Minds of the Nation."

"I confess (My Lords and Gentlemen) I have heard of One Jealousy, which I will never forgive the Authors of: That I had a Jealousy of your Affections; that I was offended with the Parliament to that Degree, that I intended to dissolve it."

"They say, Men are naturally most angry with those Reproaches which reflect upon their Understandings, which makes them thought weak Men."

"Truly I should appear a very weak Man, if I should have any such Passion, any such Purpose. No, My Lords and Gentlemen, I will not part with you upon those Terms. Never King was so much beholding to a Parliament as I am to you; and if My Kindness to you, and My Confidence in you, be not proportionable, I am behind-hand with you; which, GOD willing, I will not be."

"Mr. Speaker, and you Gentlemen of the House of Commons,"

"I am willing to take this Occasion to give you My particular Thanks, for your great Kindness, in taking Hold upon an easy Intimation, rather than an Invitation, from Me, to enter upon the Consideration of My Revenue: It was kindly done, and I shall never forget it. I have given Order that you be fully informed of the true State of it; and then I know you will do that which is good for Me and you. And I pray pursue your good Resolution, in putting the Kingdom into such a Posture, that we may prevent, at least not fear, any desperate Insurrection."

His Lordship further reported the King's Answer to the Petition of both Houses concerning Jesuits and Priests; which was read, as follows:

His further Answer to it.

"CHARLES R."

"His Majesty, having seriously considered and weighed the humble Representation and Petition of His Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, and the great Affection and Duty with which the same was presented to Him, and after having made some Reflections upon Himself and His own Actions, is not a little troubled, that His Lenity and Condescensions towards many of the Popish Persuasion (which were but natural Effects of His Generosity and Goodnature, after having lived so many Years in the Dominions of Roman Catholic Princes, and out of a just Memory of what many of them had done and suffered in the Service of His Royal Father of Blessed Memory, and of some eminent Services performed by others of them towards His Majesty Himself in the Time of His greatest Affliction), have been made so ill Use of, and so ill deserved, that the Resort of Jesuits and Priests into this Kingdom hath been thereby increased; with which His Majesty is, and hath long been, highly offended: And therefore His Majesty readily concurs with the Advice of His Two Houses of Parliament, and hath given Order for the preparing and issuing out such a Proclamation as is desired, with the same Clause, referring to the Treaty of Marriage, as was in the Proclamation which, upon the like Occasion, issued out, by the Advice of both Houses of Parliament, in the Year 1640. And His Majesty will take further Care that the same shall be effectual, at least to a greater Degree than any Proclamation of this Kind hath ever been."

"And His Majesty further declares and assures both His Houses of Parliament, and all His loving Subjects of all His Dominions, That, as His Affection and Zeal for the Protestant Religion and the Church of England hath not been concealed, or untaken Notice of in the World; so He is not, nor ever will be, so solicitous for the settling His own Revenue, or providing any other Expedients for the Peace and Tranquillity of the Kingdom, as for the Advancement and Improvement of the Religion established, and for the using and applying all proper and effectual Remedies to hinder the Growth of Popery, both which He doth in Truth look upon as the best Expedient to establish the Peace and Prosperity of all His Kingdoms."

"Given at Our Court at Whitehall, the First Day of April, 1663, in the Fifteenth Year of Our Reign."

To be communicated to H. C.

ORDERED, That this Answer of His Majesty be communicated to the House of Commons at a Conference.

Message to them, for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Bennet and Sir Justinian Lewyn Knights:

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching a Message received from the King.

The Lord Chancellor is appointed to manage this Conference with the House of Commons.

E. of Portlaud's and Whitlock's Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for the settling of Lands, and Satisfaction of Monies disbursed for the Benefit of Infants, and to compose Suits in Law against them."

Glass Bottles Bill.

ORDERED, That the Committee for the Bill concerning the Manufacture of Glass Bottles do meet this Afternoon.

The Messengers return Answer:

Answer from H. C.

That they have delivered their Message to the House of Commons, who will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Message to H. C. with a Bill.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Bennett and Sir Justinian Lewyn Knights:

To deliver to them the Bill for the Water-commanding Engine, and desire their Concurrence therein.

Thanks to the King, for His Answer to the Petition concerning Jesuits and Priests.

ORDERED, That the Lord Privy Seal and the Duke of Albemarle do attend the King, and present unto His Majesty the humble Thanks of this House, for His Gracious Message and Answer received this Day; and to desire His Majesty, that He would please to give Order the said Message and Answer may be printed and published, together with the Petition against Jesuits and Priests.

Committees adjourned.

ORDERED, That such Committees as cannot fit this Afternoon are to be adjourned till To-morrow in the Afternoon.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Sabbati, videlicet, 4um diem instantis Aprilis, hora decima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Hitherto examined by us,

J. Bridgewater.
Bolingbrooke.
Stafford.
Chandos.
Hunsdon.

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* Origin. Ds.