Die Jovis, 16° Februarii 1832.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
fuerunt:
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Dux Cumberland. |
| Archiep. Cantuar. |
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| Ds. Brougham & Vaux, Cancellarius. |
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Archiep. Ebor.
Archiep. Armacan.
Epus. Londinen.
Epus. Lich. et Cov.
Epus. Cicestrien.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Laonen, &c.
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Ds. Sundridge & Hamilton.
Ds. Kenyon.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Mendip.
Ds. Selsey.
Ds. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Sheffield.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Manners.
Ds. Hill.
Ds. Ravensworth.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Wharncliffe.
Ds. Plunket.
Ds. Melros.
Ds. Stuart de Rothesay.
Ds. Clanwilliam.
Ds. Wallace.
Ds. Fingall.
Ds. Sefton.
Ds. Dover.
Ds. Chaworth.
Ds. Poltimore.
Ds. Cloncurry. |
March Lansdowne, Præses.
Ds. Durham, C. P. S.
Dux Richmond.
March. Salisbury.
March. Thomond.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Cowper.
Comes Mansfield.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Rosslyn.
Comes Gosford.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Grey.
Comes Harrowby.
Comes Eldon.
Comes Amherst.
Vicecom. Arbuthnott.
Vicecom. Sydney.
Vicecom. Hood.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Beresford.
Ds. Melbourne, Unus Primariorum Secretariorum.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. Holland. |
PRAYERS.
The Earl of Shaftesbury sat Speaker by virtue of
a former Commission.
Birmingham, &c. Roads Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually maintaining and improving the Roads
from Birmingham to Wednesbury and to Great Bridge,
and from thence to the Portway adjoining the Bilston
and Wednesbury Turnpike Road, and to Nether Trindle
near Dudley, and from Trouse Lane, in the Parish of
Wednesbury, to Darlaston, in the Counties of Warwick,
Stafford and Worcester; and for making new Branches
of Road communicating therewith."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords present this Day:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, in the
Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers; and
to adjourn as they please.
Manerowen Inclosure Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing Lands in the Parish of Manerowen, in the
County of Pembroke."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Giffin Wilson and Mr. Martin;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bill, without any Amendment.
Hardingston Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for more
effectually repairing and improving the Road from
Hardingston to Old Stratford, in the County of Northampton," was committed; "That they had considered
the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof,
which were found to be true; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report
the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Ipswich Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from the
Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act
for more effectually repairing and otherwise improving
the Road from Ipswich to Stratford Saint Mary, in the
County of Suffolk," was committed.
Burford Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury also made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for more effectually improving the Road from
Burford to Banbury, in the County of Oxford, and
from Burford to the Road leading to Stow, in the
County of Gloucester, and from Swerford Gate, in the
County of Oxford, to the Road in Aynho, in the County
of Northampton; and for making a new Branch of Road
to communicate with the same," was committed.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed by The Lord Chancellor.
Education, (Ireland,) Petition from Moate against proposed Plan of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Protestant Clergy and
Protestant Inhabitants of various Denominations, Parish
of Moate, County Westmeath, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That no Legislative Measures may be enacted, and no Parliamentary
Aid afforded to any System of Education of the Poor
of Ireland inconsistent with the great and distinguishing
Principles of the Christian Faith; namely, that the
whole Word of God shall be the only acknowledged
Standard of National Education:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Contagious Diseases (Ireland) Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend Two Acts
passed in the Fifty-eighth and Fifty-ninth Years of the
Reign of His Majesty King George the Third, for
establishing Fever Hospitals and for preventing contagious Diseases in Ireland;"
The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the
former Messengers;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bill, without any Amendment.
Slavery, Petition of F. Shekleton for Abolition of.
Upon reading the Petition of Francis Shekleton of
Walterstown, near the Post Town of Laurgangreen, in the
County of Louth, Ireland, Gentleman; praying, "That
their Lordships will shortly put an End to the Miseries
of the Slaves in the British Colonies, by having them
emancipated:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Gaols, Reports, &c. respecting, delivered.
The Lord Melbourne laid before the House, pursuant
to the Directions of several Acts of Parliament,
"Copies of all Reports and of Schedules (B.) transmitted to the Secretary of State pursuant to the
24th Section of the 4th Geo. 4th, Cap. 64, and 14th
Section of the 5th Geo. 4th, Cap. 12;" together with
a List thereof.
Which List was read by the Clerk as follows; (vizt.)
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County of Anglesea. |
| 2. |
- Bedford. |
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- Berks. |
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- Brecon. |
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- Bucks. |
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- Cambridge. |
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- Cardigan. |
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- Carmarthen. |
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- Carnarvon. |
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- Chester. |
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- Cornwall. |
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- Cumberland. |
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- Denbigh. |
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- Derby. |
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- Devon. |
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- Dorset. |
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County of Durham. |
| 18. |
- Essex. |
| 19. |
- Flint. |
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- Glamorgan. |
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- Gloucester. |
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- Hants. |
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- Hereford. |
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- Hertford. |
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- Huntingdon. |
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- Kent. |
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- Lancaster. |
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- Leicester. |
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- Lincoln. |
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- Merioneth. |
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- Middlesex. |
| 32. |
- Monmouth. |
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County of Montgomery. |
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- Norfolk. |
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- Northampton. |
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- Northumberland. |
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- Nottingham. |
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- Oxford. |
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- Pembroke. |
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- Radnor. |
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- Rutland. |
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- Salop. |
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- Somerset. |
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- Stafford. |
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- Suffolk. |
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- Surrey. |
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- Sussex. |
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- Warwick. |
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- Westmorland. |
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- Wilts. |
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- Worcester. |
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- York. |
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City of Bristol. |
| 54. |
- Chester. |
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- Coventry. |
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- Exeter. |
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- Gloucester. |
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- London. |
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- Norwich. |
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- Westminster. |
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- Worcester. |
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- York. |
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Town of Kingston upon Hull. |
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- Leicester. |
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- Liverpool. |
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- Newcastle upon Tyne. |
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- Nottingham. |
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- Portsmouth." |
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Cholera Prevention Bill, brought from H.C. and read 1 a:
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for the Prevention, as
far as may be possible, of the Disease called the
Cholera, or Spasmodic or Indian Cholera, in England;"
to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.
Standing Orders 26 & 155 to be considered on it.
Ordered, That the Standing Orders, No. 26 and No. 155,
relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice
the same Day, be taken into Consideration To-morrow,
in order to their being dispensed with upon the lastmentioned Bill; and that the Lords be summoned.
Exchequer Bills Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for raising the Sum
of Twelve Millions by Exchequer Bills, for the Service
of the Year One thousand eight hundred and thirtytwo;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this
House.
Transfer of Aids Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to apply certain Sums
to the Service of the Year One thousand eight hundred
and thirty-two;" to which they desire the Concurrence
of this House.
Pensions, &c. Duties Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for continuing to His
Majesty for One Year certain Duties on Personal Estates,
Offices and Pensions in England, for the Service of the
Year One thousand eight hundred and thirty-two;" to
which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Three Bills were, severally, read the First
Time.
Pasteur's Naturalization Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for naturalizing
Pierre Jaques Adolphe Pasteur;" and to acquaint this
House, That they have agreed to the same, without any
Amendment.
Aston Rowant Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bernal and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing
Lands in the Parish of Aston Rowant, in the County of
Oxford;" and to acquaint this House, That they have
agreed to their Lordships Amendment made thereto.
Brough Ferry Roads Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Viscount Morpeth and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for repairing and
otherwise improving the Road from Brough Ferry to
South Newbald Holmes, and from Brough to Welton,
in the East Riding of the County of York;" to which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Com ee on Tithes, (Ireland,) 1st Report from:
The Lord President reported from the Lords Committees appointed a Select Committee to inquire into the
Collection and Payment of Tithes in Ireland, and the
State of the Laws relating thereto; and to report their
Observations thereon to the House; and to whom were
referred certain Petitions and Papers and Accounts upon
the Subject Matter referred to the Committee; "That
the Committee had proceeded to examine into the
Subject which had been referred to them; and although
they had not yet been able to bring their Inquiries to
a Close, they think it their Duty not to defer laying
before the House their Opinion on Parts of the
Evidence which had been brought before them, and
on Circumstances which call for the immediate Attention of the Legislature: A Resistance, more or less
decided, to the Payment of Tithe, appears to have
been made in several Parts of Ireland, but more particularly in the Counties of Kilkenny, Carlow and
Tipperary, and a Portion of the Queen's County, and
supported by means of organized, illegal, and in some
Instances armed Combinations; the Danger of which
is increased by the peculiar Circumstances of Ireland;
but which, from whatever Cause they may arise, if
allowed to continue, and to extend themselves successfully to other Districts, cannot fail to be applied to
other Objects, and ultimately to subvert the Dominion
of the Law, and endanger the Peace and Security of
Society:
"It appears that the Consequence of these Proceedings
has been, that in the Districts where Resistance has
been made to the Payment of Tithes the Clergy have
in many Instances been reduced to the greatest
Distress:
"The estimated Amounts, in the Districts where this
Resistance has chiefly prevailed, according to Information laid before the Committee, of Sums due for the
Tithe, are, in the Dioceses of
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| "Ossory |
In Compounded Parishes
In Uncompounded Ditto |
£14,345
10,130 |
£24,475 |
| "Leighlin |
In Compounded Parishes
In Uncompounded Ditto |
18,092
2,700 |
20,792 |
| "Cashel and Emly |
In 113 Compounded Parishes
In 25 Uncompounded Ditto, on an Average of those which have been compounded |
23,490
4,197 |
27,687 |
| "Ferns-supposed to be about |
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7,000 |
| "Kildare-Ditto |
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5,000 |
| Total |
£84,954 |
"It appears to the Committee that, in order to afford
immediate Relief to the distressed Clergy, it is expedient that His Majesty should be empowered to
advance to the Incumbent, where Tithes or Compositions in lieu of Tithes have been illegally withheld, or
to his Representatives, upon a Petition verified by Affidavit, Sums not exceeding the Amount of the Arrears
due for the Tithes of the Year 1831, proportioned to
the Incomes of each, according to a Scale diminishing
as their Incomes increase:
"That, as a Security for the Repayment of the Sums
so to be advanced, His Majesty should be empowered
to issue Orders to levy, under the Authority of a Law
to be passed for this Purpose, the Amount of Arrears
due for the Tithes of the Year 1831, without Prejudice
to the Claims of the Clergy for any Arrear that may
be due for a longer Period, reserving, in the first
Instance, the Amount of the Advances so made, and
paying over the remaining Balance to the legal
Claimant:
"That where the Tithes claimed by the Party petitioning shall be under the Operation of the Composition
Acts, the Amount to be advanced shall be regulated
by such Composition; where the Amount of the Tithe
shall have been regulated by any Agreement independently of the Composition Acts, the Amount shall be
regulated by such Agreement; and in all other Cases
by the average Amount of the Tithes which have been
really and bonâ fide paid or secured to the Incumbent
of such Parish for the Years 1827, 1828 and 1829:
"That in order to the more effectually levying the
Amount of the Sums so to be advanced, it shall be
lawful for The Attorney General to proceed, either by
Petition to the Court of Chancery or of Exchequer, or
by Civil Bill at the Quarter Sessions of the County in
which the Parish or Part of the Parish of such Incumbent is situated, against all or any of the Parties from
whom such Arrear shall be claimed as due by such
Incumbent; and that the said Courts respectively may
issue Process for the Recovery of the Sums to be by
them awarded, conformably to the Provisions to be
inserted in such Act of Parliament, and similar to
those contained in several Acts of the Parliament of
Ireland in the Years 1787, 1788, 1799 and 1800, with
such Additions or Alterations as may be thought fit
to be introduced into such Act, as adapted to the
Circumstances now existing in Ireland:
"But strongly as the Committee are impressed with
the Necessity of maintaining the Authority of the
Law, and relieving the pressing Wants the Clergy have
suffered from a Breach of it, they have anxiously
turned their Attention to the Practicability of effecting
an useful Alteration in the present System; and
although the Inquiry in which they are engaged is not
sufficiently advanced to enable them to pronounce a
distinct Opinion as to the best Means of removing the
Evils connected with the Collection of Tithes in
Ireland, enough has appeared to satisfy them, that,
with a view to secure both the Interests of the Church
and the lasting Welfare of that Country, a permanent
Change of System will be required: That such a
Change, to be satisfactory and safe, must involve a
complete Extinction of Tithes, including those belonging to Lay Impropriators, by commuting them for a
Charge upon Land, or an Exchange for or Investment
in Land, so as effectually to secure the Revenues of
the Church, (as far as relates to Tithes,) and at the
same Time to remove all pecuniary Collision between
the Parochial Clergy and the Occupiers of Land."
Which Report being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Report do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Report be printed.
Evidence in Part reported, & to be delivered out to all the Lords.
Then The Lord President reported the Minutes of
Evidence taken before the last-mentioned Committee, up
to the 9th Instant, inclusive.
The said Evidence was read by the Clerk. (fn. *)
Ordered, That the Prints of the Evidence be delivered
out to all the Members of the House.
Ecclesiastical Courts, Address for Report respecting.
Ordered, That an humble Address be presented to His
Majesty, to request that His Majesty will be graciously
pleased to order that there be laid before this House,
"The Report of the Commissioners appointed to inquire
into the Practice, &c. of the Ecclesiastical Courts in
England and Wales."
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His
Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.
Report from Central Board of Health delivered.
The Lord President laid before the House, pursuant
to an Address to His Majesty of Monday last,
"Report from the Central Board of Health to the
Privy Council."
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Report do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Report be printed.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum
continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, decimum
septimum diem instantis Februarii, horâ decimâ Auroræ,
Dominis sic decernentibus.