Die Lunæ, 13 Decembris, 1641.
PRAYERS.
Leave of Absence.
MR Ralph Goodwyn has Leave to go into the
Country.
Collectors of Subsidies.
The humble Petition of James Parcall, Collector for
the Third and Fourth Subsidies, was this Day read: And
it is Ordered, That the Six Pence allowed the Collectors
for passing the Certificates, shall be rendered in the Court
of the Exchequer; and the Barons of the Exchequer
shall order, unto whom the Six Pence shall be paid; and
that the Collectors of the Subsidies shall pass their Accounts notwithstanding: And Mr. Wheeler, and Mr.
Bell, are appointed to acquaint the Barons of the
Exchequer with this Order.
Commission of the Peace.
Upon the Question, Whether the Lord Keeper should
be moved by this House, for putting Mr. Long out of
the Commission of the Peace;
The House was divided: And
The Yeas went forth.
| Sir John Colpeper, |
for the Noe, 94 |
| Mr. Wheeler, |
| Sir John Clottworthy, |
Tellers for the Yea, 90 |
| Sir John Evelyn, |
| So that the Question passed with the Negative. |
Payment to Nulles.
Ordered, That Two thousand Pounds shall be forthwith paid to Sir Jo. Nulles, by the Commissioners for the
Poll-money of London, being for so much advanced by
him, at the Intreaty of this House, for the Service of the
Queen Mother.
Privilege- Guard about Parliament.
Mr. Geo. Long was called in; and, kneeling at the
Bar, Mr. Speaker, according to the Resolution of the
House on Saturday last, pronounced this Sentence
against him: That he should be sent to the Tower; and
there continue during the Pleasure of the House.- The
Offence that Mr. . . . . .assigned was, that he, in his
Warrant, exceeded the Authority given him by the Writ
directed unto him; and had, sitting the Parliament, sent
down armed Men to the Parliament, never acquainting
the Parliament with it.
Sir H. Vane, Mr.Hollis, Lord Falkland, Sir Arth.
Haselrig, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Jo. Francklyn, Sir
John Hotham, Sir Ra. Hopton, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr.
Glyn, Sir Tho. Bowyer, Sir Edw. Rodney, Mr. Lisle,
Sir John Colpeper, Sir Ro. Hatton, Mr. Morley, Sir Ro.
Coke, Sir Edw. Parthriche, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Sam. Rolle,
Sir Martin Lumley, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Mr. Law. Whittacre, Mr. Strode, Mr. Wheeler, Mr.Peard, Mr. Hide,
Sir Ro. Pye;
This Committee is to examine the whole Business
concerning the Raising and Sending armed Men to the
Palace at Westminster: And they have Power to send
for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, or any thing
else, that may conduce to the full Examination of this
Business: And are to meet To-morrow at Eight of Clock,
in the Inner Court of Wards.
Sir W. Breretons.
Two Letters from Sir Wm. Brereton; One of the
Eleventh of December, and another of the Seventh of December, directed, One to Mr. Speaker, and the other to
Mr. Martin: And the House took Notice of his great
Diligence employed herein, and approved well of it.
Committee added.
Ordered, That Sir H. Vane be added to the Committee
for Irish *
Ld. Strange.
Ordered, That Mr. Hollys shall know of Mr. Secretary, whether any Letters are come to his Hands from
the Lord Strange; and, if none be, that he should write
to the Lord Strange, and acquaint him, that this House
has been informed of some Letters taken upon a Spanish
Ship, and sent to his Lordship, which as yet the Parliament has not received.
Soldiers for Ireland.
Ordered, That the Soldiers now raised, or to be raised
in England, for the Service of Ireland, shall have Coats,
Stockings, Shoes, and Caps, provided for them: And
that the Citizens that serve for the City of London, and
Mr. Jesson, Mr. Spurstoe, Mr. Ash, Mr. Bond, and Sir
Tho. Smyth, shall consider of the Proposition made by
Mr. Jesson for the Cloathing of them; and of any other
way as they shall think best for this Service: And they
are likewise to consider of Proportions of Victuals and
Cloaths, and of the best Terms for the Furnishing of
them, and sending them to such convenient Places in
Ireland, as shall be hereafter agreed upon: And they
are to meet at such times as they shall think fit, without
Adjournments: And are to report to the House so soon
as with most Conveniency they can.
Irish Affairs.
A Clause, to be a Head of the Declaration to be
offered to the Lords, concerning the Queen, according
to an Order of Friday last, was this Day presented from
the Committee for Irish Affairs, and read; and voted;
and, upon the Question, assented unto.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the
Irish Affairs, to prepare an Addition to the Declaration,
concerning a Fast, and a general Contribution for the Relief of the distressed Persons come out of Ireland hither;
and also concerning the Clergy, now had in Debate.
Ordered, That on Thursday next the House do take
into Consideration the Contribution, to be made by this
House, towards the Relief of the distressed Persons that
are come out of Ireland.
State of Money, &c.
Ordered, That To-morrow Morning peremptorily the
House shall be turned into a Committee, to take into
Consideration this Report made concerning the State of
the Money, and the Debt of the Kingdom; and likewise
to consider of some way of raising Monies; to the end
that the House may give Satisfaction to the Counties
that have now petitioned, and to the Officers of the late
Army, and to all others, to whom there is any Money
owing by this House; and that no other Business intervene: And Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind of this Order. And further Ordered, That after this Business is done, that the House do take into Consideration
the speedy Expediting of the Affairs of Ireland.
Proceedings against the Bishops.
That a Message be sent to the Lords, to acquaint their
Lordships, that this House is ready to give a Meeting at
a free Conference, concerning the Thirteen Bishops, as
was desired.
Condemned Priests.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Answer to the
Message of the Lords, concerning the Priests condemned,
shall be, That the Opinion of this House is to advise his
Majesty, that * Fryer the Priest, lately condemned,
shall be put to Execution according to the Laws.
Transactions with Scotland.
Sir Philip Stapleton reports from the Commissioners appointed to treat with the Scoche Commissioners
concerning the Affairs of Ireland, That this Morning
both Commissioners met, though the Business be little
advanced, in respect of an Order of the Lords authorizing their Commissioners to treat with the Scotche
Commissioners for the Raising of Ten thousand Scotts;
but yet, withal, to desire them to send to Scotland, to
have Commission to treat for a lesser Number. The
Scotts Commissioners did begin to make a Proposition;
the Substance of it was, That, as a Testimony of their
Zeal to his Majesty, and of their Affection to their
Brethren in England, and Sensibleness of their Miseries
in Ireland, that they are ready to assist them with Ten
thousand Men, and to raise them, and transport them at
their own Charge into the Kingdom of Ireland: But the
Lords Commissioners made a Scruple to proceed in
Treaty of it, in regard of the restrictive Clause in the
latter End of their Order, to desire the Scotts. . procure
a Commission to treat for a lesser Number: But the
Scotts Commissioners desire to know the express Answer
of both Houses, concerning the certain Number to treat
on; and declared, that they have kept Men at their
great Charge for the Service of this Crown, and are not
able to continue them longer so, and therefore desires a
speedy Answer. This free Offer of theirs the House has
Cause to be sensible of; for to raise Ten thousand Men,
and the Coat and Conduct-money, and Transporting of
them, would have cost this Crown a considerable Sum;
which they are willing to bear at their own Charge.
Proceedings against the Bishops.
Mr. Hotham is appointed to go to the Lords, To acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready to give
their Lordships a Meeting, at a free Conference, concerning the Thirteen Bishops.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Glyn, are appointed Managers of this Conference.
Transactions with Scotland.
Sir Gilbert Gerard is appointed to go to the Lords,
To desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, concerning the Commissioners appointed to
treat with the Scotts Commissioners.
Mr. Nath. Fienes, Sir Wm. Armyn, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Hampden, are appointed Managers of this Conference.
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Hotham brings Answer; Their Lordships will
give a present-Meeting, by a Committee of both
Houses, as is desired.
Sir Gilbert Gerard brings Answer, that their Lordships
will give a present Meeting, by a Committee of both
Houses, as is desired.
Condemned Priests.
Mr. Cary is appointed to go to the Lords with this
Message; To desire a Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses, touching the Message from their Lordships,
concerning the Priests now condemned.
Mr. Maynard, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Peard, are appointed
Managers of this Conference.
Mr. Cary brings Answer, that the Lords will give a
present Meeting, as was desired, by a Committee of both
Houses.
Mr. Maynard is to deliver, at this Conference, the
Votes of this House, concerning Five of the Priests;
and to take notice of the Mediation of the French Ambassador in this Particular, that the like may be forborn
for the future.
Proceedings against the Bishops.
Mr. Glyn's Report from the free Conference, concerning the Thirteen Bishops:
"That the Lord Keeper said, the Bishops Counsel
insisted still upon the Plea and Demurrer: And that
they took Exception to the last Conference; that it was
only an Act of the Committee, and not of the House;
because the Manager of that Conference delivered to
the Reporter of the Lords House (the Archbishop of
Yorke) a Paper, intituled, A Report made by Serjeant
Wilde, from the Committee for the Thirteen Bishops.-
He said, He conceived, for his Part, that it was the
Vote of the House: But, to satisfy that Objection,
desired to know the Answer of the House. -I told his
Lordship, it passed the Vote of the House; and That
Paper was but as a Memorandum to the Manager of
that Conference, and delivered by him at that time to
the Reporter of the Lords House, to enable him to
report; but did not conceive this Use would have been
made of it, or that it should have been shewed to the
Bishops Counsel.
Irish Affairs.
Mr. Pym reports from the Committee, An Addition
to the Heads of the Conference to be had with the
Lords, touching a Declaration concerning the Affairs of
Ireland, concerning a publick Fast; and a Contribution
to succour the Necessities of the poor distressed Irish:
The which was read, and voted; and, upon the Question, assented unto.
Memorandum, Mr. Pym had from me, at this time,
the Certificate from the Lords Justices and Council
of Ireland, concerning the Necessities of the People
in Ireland.
Person sent for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That * Williamson shall
be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant
at Arms attending on this House, for several Offences
and Scandals against this House, expressed in a Sermon
preached by him Yesterday at St. Martin's Church in
the Fields.
Irish Affairs.
Sir John Clotworthy is appointed to go to the Lords
with this Message; To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses so soon as may stand with their
Lordships Conveniency, concerning the Affairs of Ireland.
Information against Venn.
Ordered, That the Gentleman that brought in the
Information against Mr. Venn, a Member of this House,
give notice to the Witnesses, to be produced in that
Business, that they be here To-morrow; that Matter
being appointed to be then heard.
Transport Service.
Ordered, That it be referred to Sir Robert Pye, and
Mr. Wheeler, to consider what Satisfaction is fit to be
allowed to the Masters and Owners of those Ships, that
were employed to go to Berwick to transport the Ammunition; and for the Provision of Tackle and Cordage;
and also to consider what Allowance is fit to be allowed
to those Persons, that have been employed in the Service
of this House to Edinborough.
Conference.
Sir John Clotworthy brings Answer, that their Lordships will give a present Meeting, at a Conference, by a
Committee of both Houses presently, as is desired.
Pressing Soldiers.
Serjeant Wilde reports the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers,
returned from the Lords, at a Conference, with some
Amendments: And it was thereupon
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
consent, that these Words, "or compelled," shall stand
in the Preamble of the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers, upon
Condition that these Words may be added to them,
"except, in case of Necessity, of the sudden Coming
in of foreign Enemies into this Kingdom."
Priests.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and
Serjeant Glanvile;
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, in the Painted Chamber, touching
the Priests.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; hat this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting as is desired.
Mr. Pym, Mr. Hollis, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Reynolds, are
appointed Managers and Reporters of these Conferences.
Proceedings against the Bishops.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Business
concerning the Thirteen Bishops shall be taken into
Consideration To-morrow, after the Debate of the
Money Business.
Priests.
Mr. Maynard reports from the Conference with the
Lords, concerning the Priests, That their Lordships said,
that the French Ambassador's Mediation was for Seven
or Eight Priests: That this House had given their
Resolutions touching Five of them, but had spoken
nothing concerning the rest.
London, Petition.
The humble Petition of divers of the Inhabitants of
the City of London, and Suburbs thereof, whose Petition
was exhibited the 11th of this instant December, to this
Honourable Assembly, was read.
Persons sent for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That H. Broadenox,
Jo. Lloyde, and Tho. Lullam, be forthwith sent for, as
Delinquents, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this
House, for several Contempts and Breaches of the
Privileges of this House.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Tho. Carpenter, and Mr. Arth. Hodgskins, be forthwith sent for,
as Delinquents, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on
this House, for several Contempts and Breaches of the
Privileges of this House.
Treaty with Scotland.
Sir Ph. Stapilton went up to the Lords, To desire
them to speed their Answer to the Message of this House,
sent this Day, concerning the Treaty with the Scotts
Commissioners, for the Raising of Ten thousand Scotts:
-Brought Word, that the Lords were up.
Person to attend, &c.
Ordered, That the Under Sheriff for the County of
Surrey be summoned to attend this House To-morrow
Morning at Nine of Clock: And that he be injoined, by
the said House, not to suffer any Proceedings to be made
upon an Inquisition, that concerns any Persons that meet
together to subscribe a Petition to be preferred to this
House, till he should receive further Order from this
House.
Proceedings of Members in Parliament.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill for the
Members of this House, for the better Discharging of
their Consciences * * * *