Die Sabbati, Februarii 15, 1644.
MR. Reynolds reports, from the Grand Committee,
the Proceedings and Resolutions of the Committee in the Matter of the Customs, and of the Navy:
That the Committee, in respect to the present Commissioners, after a long Debate, on Februarii 11, made an
Order in these Words:
"That the Commissioners of the Customs do attend this
Committee, To-morrow at Eight of Clock, to satisfy this
Committee touching the Advance of Seventy thousand
Pounds upon the Credit of the Customs; and upon what
Conditions, and for what Time; and to satisfy this Committee, what Monies the State is indebted unto them:"
That, accordingly, the Commissioners of the Customs
did attend the Committee; and desired Time a little to
consider, and to withdraw: And after an Hour's Time of
withdrawing, they returned: And Mr. Foulke, in the
Name of the rest, delivered in a verbal Answer: Which
the Committee considered of; and likewise many former
Answers, which the said Commissioners had given to Committees appointed to treat with them, for divers Months
past, for the Advance of Monies for carrying on the Affairs
of the Navy; and at length came to this Vote; viz.
12 Februarii, 1644.
"Resolved, &c. at the Grand Committee, That the
Answer given this Day to the Committee, by the present
Commissioners of the Customs, touching the supplying the
present Necessities of the Navy, is altogether unsatisfactory."
He then reported, He was further commanded, by
the Grand Committee, to present some Propositions,
which were presented to That Committee by a Committee
appointed to treat with the present Commissioners, and
others, for the Advance of Monies for carrying on the
Affairs of the Navy upon the Credit of the Customs:
The which were read at the Grand Committee; and,
after serious and particular Consideration, approved of by
Vote of the Grand Committee.
The Propositions were read in the House all together
twice; and then particularly one by one; and particularly
one by one voted; and assented unto: The which Propositions were in hæc verba; viz.
I. THAT they be settled by Ordinance of Parliament in
the Employment; and have Power to receive and collect the Duties of Tonage and Poundage granted by the new
Ordinance; and not to be removed from that Employment,
until they shall be reimbursed and paid all such Monies,
with Interest, as they shall at present, or in future, advance; together with all such other Monies as they shall
disburse for the necessary Carriage on of that Service, as
well to Officers as otherwise, according to certain Articles
and Instructions prescribed unto the present Commissioners; and likewise to such other Rules and Instructions
as they shall receive from the Honourable House of Commons.
II. That they be allowed Four thousand Pounds per
Annum for the Defraying of their Charge in Attendance
of this Service: And they are ready to undertake it; and
to give in their Names, so soon as it shall please the Honourable House of Commons to vote, That they will accept
of their Service under these Conditions.
III. That this being voted, and an Ordinance passed
both Houses, in order to these humble Propositions,
they are ready to advance Fifty thousand Pounds within
Six Days after they are settled in the Receipts, and to
forbear the whole Fifty thousand Pounds, till Twenty
thousand Pounds more shall be come in upon the Receipt of the Customs, to make up Seventy thousand Pounds
for the Use of the Navy: Which being accomplished, if
the Affairs of the Navy shall require the Use of the
whole Fifty thousand Pounds for One, Two, or Three
Months longer, they will be content to forbear the Whole
so long; and then to reimburse themselves Twenty thousand Pounds, out of the said Receipts, as the Money
shall come in; and to forbear the other Thirty thousand
Pounds, so long as the State shall be pleased to make use
thereof, and they be continued in the Service; paying
themselves their Salary, and such Interest as shall be due
unto them for the Time, quarterly, after the Rate of
Eight per Centum per Annum; and the Parliament
to make use of all other the Receipts of the Customs,
which shall come in, from time to time, during their
Employment, as they shall, in their Wisdoms, think it
fit: And they shall be ready, upon all other Occasions,
to carry on that Service, as they shall be encouraged by
the good Acceptance of their Service, and the future
just Favours of the Parliament.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of these
Resolved, &c. That the Names of the Gentlemen, that
have made these Propositions shall be now named.
And thereupon they were named; videlicet, Samuel
Avery, Richard Bateman, Christopher Packe, Charles Lloyd,
Resolved, &c. That the Consideration of these Persons
shall be taken up on Monday next, the first Business.
Mr. Lisle carried up to the Lords the Copy of a
Letter, in English, and a Duplicate of the same in French,
to be written, from both Houses, to the French King,
concerning Goods and Ships of English Merchants staid
by his Order and Arrest, upon Pretence, that some
French Merchants have sustained Wrongs, and been denied Justice here.
He likewise carried up the Name of Mr. Strode, to be
added to the Assembly in the place of Mr. White, deceased:
And was to desire the Lords to expedite the Ordinance
concerning the Sheriff of Lancashire; and likewise the Ordinance concerning the new Model, in regard of the important Necessity of the speedy Passing thereof.
Mr. Lisle brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to
the Letters to the French King; and that Mr. Strode be
added to the Assembly of Divines: And, as to the Ordinance concerning Lancashire, and concerning the new
Model, they will send Answer by Messengers of their
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of
both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it
may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Matter of the last free Conference.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has considered their Lordships Message; and will
give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Resolved, That the House do sit this Afternoon at
Three of Clock.
Sir Henry Mildmay went up to the Lords, to acquaint
them, That this House is resolved to sit this Afternoon
at Three of Clock; and desire them to sit this Afternoon,
if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.
The Managers of the free Conference Yesterday are
appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Sir John Evelyn reports, from the Conference, the Reasons offered by the Lords for their not agreeing to the
Proviso to the Ordinance of the new Model, as it was
offered by this House at the last Conference: The which
He further reported an Alteration of the Lords to the
said Proviso: The which Alteration was twice read; and,
upon the Question, passed, in hæc verba; videlicet,
After the Word "displaced," leave out the Words
"and made uncapable to have any Charge or Command
within the said Army;" and, instead thereof, add these
Words, "and shall not be admitted to any Office or
Command in this said Army, until they shall have taken
the said Solemn League and Covenant, in Manner and
Form as aforesaid; and such their Conformity certified
and approved of by both Houses of Parliament."
It was further Ordered, That the Ordinance, concerning
the new Model, be forthwith printed and published.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both
Kingdoms, to take Order to put my Lord General's
Horse and Foot into speedy Employment, for the best
Advantage of the Publick, and Service of the West:
And that they do take special Care of sending speedy Supplies to the Town of Weymouth, both by Land and Sea.
Resolved, &c. That the Treaty shall continue for
Twenty Days, not including the First Thursday, nor the
Three Sundays: And that the Safe-Conduct, granted by
both Houses, be made accordingly, if it be necessary.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Mr. Rous, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Hill and Mr. Maynard, are
appointed to prepare an Instruction to the Commissioners
at Uxbridge, to propound unto the King's Commissioners,
that his Majesty may declare against any further Cessation
for the future; or whether he hath given any Commission or Power to treat or conclude any further Cessation
or Peace with the Rebels.
Resolved, &c. That the Governor of Uxbridge do take
care, that no Persons come from Oxon to Uxbridge, but
such as are within the Safe-Conduct: And that if he shall
apprehend any that are not within the Safe-Conduct, that
he send them up, in safe Custody, to this House.
A Letter from Sir Wm. Brereton, from Whitechurch,
of February 11, 1644, was this Day read; and ordered
to be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Ordered, That Sir John Lawrence be referred to be
examined at the Committee of Examinations.
Ordered, That the Judge be required to give speedy
Order for the Execution of the Lord Macquire, according
to the Sentence given against him.
Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons,
for Advance of Monies at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith
pay into the Hands of Mr. Bell and Sir Arthur Hasilrigge Sevenscore Pounds; to be employed by Mr. Bell's
Care, Part for the Furnishing the Surgeons Chests appointed
to go with Sir Wm. Waller into the West, and Part to be
imprested to the said Surgeons upon Account: And that,
after the said Chests are furnished, that Mr. Bell, and the
Master of the Company of Apothecaries, do view the same.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
A Letter from the Commissioners at Uxbridge, of
Februar' 14, relating the Proceedings of the Commissioners upon the Propositions concerning Religion, was
this Day read.