Die Lunæ, Martii 17, 1644.
Ordered, That Mr. Whitelock and Mr. Winwood do
forthwith repair unto my Lord General; and acquaint
him with the Murder committed upon a Countryman of
Buckinghamshire by one Captain Smythe of Colonel Martin's Regiment; and to desire his Excellency, that he
would take some Course, that he may be forthwith brought
up in safe Custody, to receive condign Punishment.
A Letter from the Committee at Namptwiche, of March
13, 1644, was this Day read: And
It is Ordered, That the Letter from the Committee at
Namptwich, of March 13, 1644, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms; with a
special Recommendation from this House, that the Scotts
Commissioners be desired, that some speedy Orders may be
taken, that the Party of Scotts Foot and Dragoons, that
are now in Yorkeshire, or thereabouts, may be dispatched
to the Relief of the Parts of Cheshire, and thereabouts.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both
Kingdoms, to consider what Supply of Monies is fit to be
sent to the Yorkeshire Horse, and the other Forces under
Sir William Brereton, in the Parts of Cheshire, and thereabouts, for the Encouragement of those Forces at this Conjuncture of Time.
A Letter from the Committee at Manchester, of March
the 6, 1644, was this Day read: And
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Gentlemen of
this House, of Lancashire and Yorkeshire, to consider of
some Means for Supply of those Forces with Monies and
Arms; and to report it to the House.
And it is Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Tower do
make his Propositions, for the Advantage of the Forces of
Lancashire, to the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning Newcastle be
reported To-morrow Morning; and likewise the Report
in Mr. Green's Hand, concerning the Coasters and CoalTraders.
A Letter from Sir Wm. Waller, of the Thirteenth of
March, was read; informing the House of the Defeat of
Colonel Long's Forces in Wiltshire, about the Lavingtons;
and of the Taking of the Colonel Prisoner; and some
Three hundred more Prisoners; and above Three hundred and Forty Horse; was this Day read. And
It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of
the Exchange of Colonel Long, Prisoner to the Parliament,
for Colonel Stephens, Prisoner to the King's Forces: And
that Sir Arthur Hesilrig do write to Sir Wm. Waller, to
acquaint him with the Order of this House concerning this
Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Inhabitants
of the City and County of the City of Gloucester, and of
the Parts adjacent of the County of Gloucester, be referred
to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Mr. Prideaux reports the Conference with the Lords
concerning the List of the new Model:
That the Earl of Denbigh acquainted them, That the
Lords desired to expedite the List of the new Model; and
had therefore desired this Conference: And had communicated the Matter of the Conference, in Writing.
The which was read at the Conference, and likewise
The Lords do adhere to their Exceptions against
such Persons nominated by Sir Thomas Fairefaxe in this
List to be Officers in the new Model of the Army, against
whom they did formerly except: And in regard, by the
Ordinance of Parliament concerning the Raising of this
new Army, the Approving or Disapproving of such as
Sir Thomas Fairefaxe shall nominate, have left free to the
Houses of Parliament, they conceive, that, as far as this
Power is left to them, they have discharged their Duty, by
their excepting against those Persons left out in this List:
And This they have done with due Regard to the Defence
and Safety of the Kingdom. They further conceive, it
may prove very inconvenient to declare and publish the
Grounds and Reasons of their Votes and Resolutions in
Things personal; which may tend much to the Nourishing of Difference, and to the Protracting of Time: And
they hold it necessary to be the more circumspect at this
time in their Approbation of such Officers as shall be employed in this Army; because this Army is intended to be
the cheif visible Strength, upon which we are to rely for
the Safety of the Parliament, and the Kingdom. The
Lords do wave their former Recommendation to Sir Thomas Fairefax; to leave it to him to nominate Persons, in the
place of those whom they have excepted.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the Officers of the List of the new Model, as they were approved
of by this House.
Ordered, &c. That the Managers of the last Conference
concerning the new List be appointed, with the Addition
of Sir Arth. Haselrigg, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Samuel Browne,
Sir Peter Wentworth, to prepare Reasons for the adhering
to the Officers approved of by this House, to be delivered
at a free Conference: Which is Ordered to be desired upon
Ordered, &c. That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do
furnish a Ton of Match, and a Thousand Bandaleers, for
the Garison of Henley; to be disposed of by the Warrant
of the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Resolved, &c. That the Officers of the Companies of
Sir Tho. Fairefaxe's Army, to be recruited, shall have a
Fortnight's Pay, as well as the Soldiers.
Ordered, &c. That the Committee of both Kingdoms
do give their Warrants and Directions for the present Payment and Sending the Thousand Pounds to Abington.
Ordered, &c. That the Report from the Committee of
both Kingdoms, concerning Farneham Castle, be made on
Wednesday Morning next.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Corbett and Mr. Nicoll do
desire Serjeant-Major-General Skippon to go down to Reddinge to the Army, with all the convenient Speed his Occasions will permit.
Ordered, &c. That the humble Petition of the Committee for the Isle of Elye be referred to the Consideration
of the Committee for the Earl of Manchester's Association,
together with the Members of those Counties, that are
charged with Payments to Newport-Pagnall; to report
their Opinions upon the whole Petition to the House: And
have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, &c.
Ordered, &c. That the humble Petition of George Devereux Esquire, reported from the Committee of both
Kingdoms, be re-committed to the same Committee; to
examine the Matter of Fact; and to present their Opinions
to the House.
Ordered, &c. That the Remonstrance of the Committee of Adventurers for Ireland, concerning Sir Frederick
Hamilton, with the Papers annexed, be re-committed to the
Committee of both Kingdoms; to take them, and likewise
the Petition in Mr. Vassall's Hand, concerning Londonderry, into speedy Consideration; and to bring a Report
in to the House; with an Opinion, What is fit to be done
upon the Whole.
Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of
Examinations, to examine the Matter of Fact concerning
the Carriage of Captain Poe, upon his Apprehension, upon
a Warrant of this House; and to report the Business to
the House To-morrow Morning.
Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire
a free Conference, by Committees of both Houses, so soon
as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, upon
the Matter of the last Conference, touching the List of the
The humble Petition of Captain Fowlke Martin, Captain Thomas Highfeild, Lieutenant Hastings Love, Lieutenant Christopher Batten, and Cornet John Downes, reported
from the Committee of both Kingdoms, as to the Exchange of the Prisoners mentioned in the Petition; and to
consider of some present Relief of the Petitioners, and
some fitting future Employment.
Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree
to a free Conference, as is desired; and that it be presently, in the Painted Chamber.
Sir John Evelyn reports, from the Committee that went
out to prepare Reasons, to be offered, at a free Conference,
to the Lords, to pass the List of the new Model, as it was
presented by Sir Thomas Fairefaxe, and approved of, and
sent up by this House,
"For that the Time of Year is far spent; the King's
Forces are in the Field; the Condition of our Affairs will
be very bad, if Sir Wm. Brereton should receive a Blow:
That the chief visible Means left us in this Army, to be
raised by Ordinance of Parliament: That the List of the
Officers sent up were all named by Sir Thomas Fairefaxe,
and approved of by this House: That the Lords having
disapproved many of them that this House sent up, this
House gave Reasons to make good their Approbation; and
to those Reasons no Answer is given, nor Notice taken of
them: That this Course makes the Business endless: That,
if no Reason be given, it will render this Ordinance ineffectual: That Delay, in this Business, gives the King Time
to recruit, and Opportunity to break into the Association:
Likewise to represent, That the Commissions, that are
received by those Officers that are excepted against, were
given by the Lord General, the Earl of Manchester, and
Sir Wm. Waller; and not any Exception hereof against
any of these Men."
For Answer to the Lords Reasons:
I. That it may prove inconvenient to publish Reasons
in Things personal.
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That this House hath again desired this Conference, to
satisfy their Lordships, and all the World, that they are
desirous to use all Ways and Means to induce their Lordships to concurr with the Commons of England for the
Saving of the Kingdom.
The Reporters of the last Conference are appointed Managers, and Reporters of this free Conference.
Mr. Wallopp reports, from the Committee of both
Kingdoms, That, if the Fifteen thousand Pounds, now
designed for the Scott's Army, may be made Twenty, it
may be divided; or otherwise, not conveniently: And
that there is an Opportunity now of sending it away.
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of
Goldsmiths- . . ., to make up the Fifteen thousand Pounds
It is further referred to this Committee, to take into
speedy Consideration the Providing of the Remainder of
the Fifteen hundred Pounds formerly assigned to my Lord
A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr.
The Lords desire, That this free Conference, concerning the List of the new Model, may be adjourned till Tomorrow at Eleven a Clock; and desire, That they may
have then a free Conference, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.
They have likewise received Two Papers, one from
Don Alonso, the King of Spain's Ambassador; another
from Monsieur Sabran, the French King's Resident. The
Lords are of Opinion, That these Papers be referred to
the Committee of both Kingdoms; to give their Opinion
to the House, What is fit to be done in these Matters; and
desire the Concurrence of this House.
They do concurr with this House to the Ordinance for
the settling the Committee of Lecestershire; and desire the
Addition of these Persons under-named; Sir Edw. Hartopp Knight, Mr. Thomas Beaumont, Mr. Wm. Quarles,
Mr. Tho. Goddard, Mr. Tho. Cotton, Mr. Wm. Sherman,
Mr. Wm. Danvers.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth consent to a free
Conference, to be To-morrow at Eleven of Clock, as is
Ordered, &c. That, as to the Paper from the Spanish
Ambassador, the Answer shall be, That this House will
send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, &c. That as to the Paper from the French Resident, that this House doth concurr, That it be referred
to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms;
to prepare a general Answer unto it, to this, or the like
Effect; "That there being Amity between the Crowns
of England and France, there needs no particular Licence
in this Business."
As to the Lords Desire for the Names to be added to
the Committee of Leicestershire; the House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House hath considered their Lordships Message: And, as
to the free Conference desired to be To-morrow at Eleven
of Clock, they do agree unto it: As to the Paper from
the Spanish Ambassador, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: They have referred the Paper from
the French Resident to the Committee of both Kingdoms:
As to the Names desired to be added to the Committee
of Leicestershire, they will send Answer by Messengers of