House of Commons Journal Volume 4
9 October 1645

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 9 October 1645', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 301-303. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23514 Date accessed: 21 September 2014.


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Die Jovis, 9 Octobris, 1645.

Prayers.

THE Grand Committee of the House proceeded to take into Consideration the Three last Papers delivered in by the Scotts Commissioners.

Mr. Pury in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army do forthwith provide One hundred and Fifty whole Cannon, English Shot, of Sixty-three Pounds Weight; Three hundred Demicannon Shot, English, of Thirty-two Pounds Weight; Three hundred whole Culverin Shot; Two hundred Granado-Shells, of Thirteen Inches; Two hundred Demiculverin Shot; Fifty Granado-Shells, of Ten Inches; and One great Mortar-Piece; or as many of the said several Provisions as can be got: And that they do immediately send the said respective Provisions to CherseyBridge.

The humble Petition of Colonel Thomas Mytton Esquire was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That Five hundred Pounds be paid and advanced unto Colonel Thomas Mitton, upon Account: And that the said Five hundred Pounds be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid, in its Course, with Consideration of Interest, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for the Time of Forbearance of the same, until it shall be paid, in its Course.

Mr. Lisle reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for the Borrowing of Forty thousand Pounds, by way of voluntary Loan, or by way of Assessments: Which were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Robert Pye is to carry it to the Lords.

Ordered, That Major-General Browne do send a Trumpet to the Marquis of Hertford, with the Letters that came out of France, concerning the Death of the Marquis's Son there.

Ordered, That the Committee to whom the Consideration of the Ordinance concerning the Signing of Bills upon the Granting of Wardships, and compounding for them, was referred, by Order of 5 Martii last, be revived: And that the said Committee do sit this Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer-Chamber: And that Mr. Maynard do report the same to the House on Saturday Morning.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of providing for the Maintenance of the several Garisons, to consider of some Particulars to be added to the Excise (Wine excepted) for the Raising of Monies for Maintenance of the several Garisons, and for Ease of the Counties in their Taxes and Assessments: And that they make their Report on Tuesday next.

Upon Mr. Purye's Report from the Grand Committee appointed to consider of the Scotts Three last Papers; and first, That concerning the Marching of their Army to Newarke;

It is Resolved, &c. That Mr. Recorder shall be, and is hereby, added to the Committee for borrowing the Thirty thousand Pounds for the Scotts Army, upon the Security of the Assessments for that Army: And that Mr. Long take care of that Business: And that Committee are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer-Chamber.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall do forthwith put in Execution all such Powers and Authorities that is given unto them, for the effectual Bringing in of the Assessments for the Payment of the Scotts Army: And that if any Committee, or Member thereof, or other Officer employed by them, do obstruct the speedy Bringing in of the said Monies, that they do send for him or them, and require an Account of them, according to the Power given them: And that if they shall be informed of any Member of this House that is the Cause of either diverting or obstructing the Coming in of the said Assessments, that they do certify the Name of such Member or Members to the House, to be proceeded with as the House shall think fit: And whereas the Power given to that Committee is of Force only, as to the Assessments for the Four first Months for the Scotts Army; it is Ordered, That the same Powers, in every Clause and Article thereof, shall be of Force, and applied, to the effectual and speedy Bringing in of the last Four Months Assessments; and also for bringing in the Arrears upon the Ordinance for the Loan of Two hundred thousand Pounds for the Scotts Advance into this Kingdom.

Mr. Ashe reported from the Committee at GoldsmithsHall, That One thousand Backs, Breasts, and Pots, One thousand Pair of Pistols, with Holsters, Seven thousand Musquets, Seven thousand Bandaleers, Three hundred Barrels of Powder, Ten Ton of Match, Ten Ton of Bullet, were sent by that Committee to the Scotts Army, when they marched from Newcastle Southward.

Resolved, &c. That Tuesday next be assigned to the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall, to make their Reports for Compositions with Delinquents; and also for Reading of such Ordinances as they shall present upon such Compositions as are or shall be made and allowed by the House.

Whereas Advertisement is this Day given of the King's coming, with a considerable Strength, to Newarke, near to the Isle of Ely; the which Place may be in great Danger, by reason of the Access of his Forces so near, and the Discontents of the Soldiers, for want of Pay: It is Ordered, That the Commissioners of Excise be hereby earnestly desired, from this House, forthwith to furnish, by way of Loan, for the present, the Sum of Two thousand Pounds, Part of the Five thousand Pounds charged upon the Receipts of the Excise for the Service of the Isle of Ely; the better to enable the Governor presently to repair to his Charge, for the Defence of the Isle, being a Place of so great Importance to the Safety of the Associated Counties, and this City.

Sir Henry Vane junior, Mr. Edward Ashe, Mr. Bedingfield, and Mr. Holland, are appointed to go to the Commissioners of Excise, to employ their best Endeavours for the present Procuring of this Two thousand Pounds in this Time of so great Necessity.

It is further Ordered, That Colonel Russell, the Governor of the Isle of Elye, do forthwith repair to his Charge.

Ordered, That the Sequestrators for the City of London do appoint the new-elected Lord Mayor of London the same sequestred House wherein the Lord Mayor for the last Year lived: And that they do permit him to hold and enjoy the said House without any Rent, or other Thing, to be paid for the same.

A Letter from Grantham, from Colonel Roseter, of 7 Octobris 1645, concerning the King's being come to Newark; with a Copy of an intercepted Letter, under his Majesty's Hand, and from one Robert Hatton, to the Governor of Belvoir-Castle; were this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take the same into Consideration; and to give Directions, for the speedy Advancing of what Forces they can towards Newark.

An Ordinance for allowing Interest to be paid for the Forbearance of the Ten thousand Pounds, charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, for the Service of the Forces employed against Chester, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

The Question was propounded, Whether One thousand Pounds should be charged upon the Excise, in Course, for the Foot of the County of Lincoln;

And the Question being . . ., Whether this Question should be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And then the Question being put;

It is Resolved, That One thousand Pounds shall be charged upon the Excise, in Course, towards the Payment of the Foot in the County of Lincoln: And that an Ordinance be brought in accordingly.

Resolved, &c. That a Thousand Pound be Charge upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid, in Course, for the Use of the Forces of Leicestershire.

Resolved, &c. That a Thousand Pound be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid, in Course, for the Service of the Foot of Nottingham.

A Letter from some of the Deputy-Lieutenants of the County of Chester, of 29 Septembris 1645, from the Leaguer before Chester, was read; and was, concerning a Petition, presented to the House, from that County.

Resolved, &c. That, notwithstanding any thing in this Letter, nothing doth reflect upon Sir William Brereton, or is to his Prejudice.

A Paper from the Scotts Commissioners, of 9 Octobris 1645, concerning a positive Answer for their Army's coming to Newark, and for Propositions of Peace, was read: And

Ordered, That it be referred to the Grand Committee of the House for the Scotts Papers.

A Letter from the Committee of Yorkshire, of 3 Octobris 1645, from York, was this Day read: And

Ordered, That it be referred to the Grand Committee of the House for the Scotts Papers.

A Letter from the Committee for managing of the War at York, of 4 Octobris 1645, was this Day read: And

Ordered, That it be referred to the Grand Committee of the House for the Scotts Papers.

Ordered, That the House be resolved into a Grand Committee To-morrow Morning, to take into Consideration the Scotts Paper, of 9 Octobris 1645; the Letter of 3 Octobris 1645, from the Committees of Yorkshire; the Letter from the Committee at York for Managing of the War, of 4 Octobris 1645; and to present their Opinions, and what they think fit to be done thereupon, to the House.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning Church-Government be reported, the first Business after Mr. Speaker comes to the Chair, To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That Mr. Darley do take care to send the Votes of this House, of octavo Octobris 1645, concerning General Leven's giving Commissions for raising Forces in this Kingdom, and the Acceptance of such Commissions by Englishmen, to Captain Stockdale.

A Letter from Derby, of 4 Octobris 1645, from Sir John Gell, and Two Letters inclosed, to himself, and the Committees there, from General Leven, and the Commissioners of Scotland residing with the Scotts Army, of 15 Septembris last, from Nottingham, were all read; and ordered to be referred to the Grand Committee of the House for the Scotts Papers, to be taken into Consideration.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you this Paper: It was reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms; and comes from the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland: A Petition and Certificates of Captain Poe: Which, according to his Desire, they do refer to your Consideration.

Ordered, That the Petition and Certificates concerning Captain Poe be taken into Consideration on Saturday Morning.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.