Die Lunæ, Octobris 13 , 1645.
ACcording to former Order, the Grand Committee
sat; and proceeded to the Consideration of the last
Papers from the Scotts Commissioners, referred unto That
Mr. Pury in the Chair.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners, from WorcesterHouse, of Octobris 10 1645, directed to Mr. Speaker,
was read; desiring, If there be any Complaints against
their Army, as they are informed there are, from the
North, that, before any Resolution be taken thereupon,
they may be acquainted therewith, according to the Votes
of both Houses, of Octobris 17 1644.
Mr. Pury reports the Votes of the Grand Committee,
upon the Papers, from the Scotts Commissioners, referred
to their Consideration: And
It is thereupon Resolved, &c. That this House doth
declare, That, as they are bound, by the Covenant and
Treaties, to maintain the Union and good Correspondency
between the Two Kingdoms; so is their Resolution to employ and continue their utmost Endeavours to maintain the
Resolved, &c. That the Scotts Army not engaging
against the Enemy, according to the Desires of both
Houses of Parliament, and their Continuance in the
Northern Parts, contrary to those Desires, is not only
unserviceable, but prejudicial to those Ends, for which
their Assistance was desired, and destructive to those Parts
of the Kingdom.
Resolved, &c. That their Laying of Taxes, and Raising
of Monies, upon the Subjects of this Kingdom, and plundering their Horses and Goods, is against the Treaty, and
against the Liberty of the Subject, which both Kingdoms
are bound to preserve; and doth disable this Kingdom to
pay the monthly Assessments for the Maintenance of that
Army, and the Forces of the Northern Association.
Resolved, &c. That it be declared to the Inhabitants of
the Northern Association, That they are not bound to pay
any such Monies as are, or shall be, taxed upon them,
without the Power or Authority of both Houses of Parliament, by the Scotts Officers, or any other Person.
Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Monies, Goods, Horses,
or Provisions, have or shall be taken from any the Inhabitants of the Northern Association, or of any other Parts
of this Kingdom, without the Power and Authority of
both Houses of Parliament, by any of the Scotts Army,
shall be repaid unto them out of the Monies designed for
the Maintenance of That Army.
Resolved, &c. That such Commissions shall be issued,
under the Great Seal, into every County of this Kingdom,
where they shall be desired, for the certifying what Money,
Billet, Horses, Cattle, Goods, or Provisions, have been
levied or taken by any of the Scotts Army; with like
Powers and Authorities as are contained in Commissions
already issued in that Behalf into divers of the Northern
Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Monies, Horses, Goods,
or Provisions, have been, or shall be, levied or taken by
the Scotts Army upon the Inhabitants or Subjects of the
Kingdom of England, shall be accounted as so much of
the Pay of the Scotts Army: And that this Kingdom is
disengaged for the Payment of so much as the same shall,
upon Proof, amount unto.
Resolved, &c. That, in case the Pressures of the Scotts
Army upon the Subjects of this Kingdom be continued,
and unless Satisfaction shall be given touching the Premises,
it cannot be expected, that this Kingdom shall make Payment of the Thirty-one thousand Pounds per Month to the
Resolved, &c. That it be desired, That Satisfaction may
be given to this Kingdom, that such Forces of the Scottish
Nation, as have been put into the several Garisons of Newcastle upon Tyne, the City of Carlisle, the Town of Hartlepoole, the Castles of Tynmouth, Warkworth, Thirlwall,
and Stockton, without the Consent of both Houses of Parliament, may be forthwith removed; to the end the same
may be disposed of in such manner as shall be thought
sitting by both Houses of the Parliament of England.
Resolved, &c. That the Letters from the Committees
at Yorke, of the Third and Fourth of this instant October,
with the Votes thereupon, be communicated to the Lords,
at a Conference.
Resolved, &c. That the Votes, formerly passed the
House, for removing the Obstructions that happen in
bringing in the Assessments for the Scotts Army; and for
Providing of Thirty thousand Pounds for that Army, upon their coming to Newarke; be communicated to the
Lords, at this Conference: And that a Committee be
appointed to digest all the Votes into Form, sit to be delivered at a Conference, by way of Answer to the Scotts
Resolved, &c. That the House be desired, That the
Two Days, formerly assigned for the Matter of Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, may be set apart
and observed, accordingly: And that the Declaration of
this setting apart these Days shall be delivered unto the
Lords at this Conference.
Resolved, &c. That the Letters from the North, and
these Votes, be communicated to the Lords at a Conference; and the Lords desired, in case they shall assent unto
them, That a Committee of Lords and Commons may
be appointed to digest them into Form, to be an Answer
to the Papers from the Scotts Commissioners.
Ordered, &c. That Wednesday next be appointed, between the Hours of Ten and Twelve, for reading the Ordinance the Third time, concerning Church-Government:
And that the Members be all injoined to attend.
Sir Robert Pye went to the Lords, to desire a Conference,
so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency;
and concerning the Impeachment of the Earl of Stampford:
And likewise carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence,
the Ordinances for Five thousand Pounds, charged upon
the Excise, for reducing Oxon, and the Reformadoes entertained by the Three Counties, Oxon, Bucks, and Berks;
for an Hundred Pounds to the Scoutmaster-General; for
an Hundred Pounds to Colonel Parsons; for an Hundred
Fifty-seven Pounds Sixteen Shillings to Lieutenant-Colonel Birkhead; for Two thousand Pounds for the Use of
the Isle of Elye; for Five hundred Pounds, with Interest,
for Colonel Mitton; all out of the Excise.
Mr. Long reports from the City, That they would endeavour, and were in good Hopes, to effect the Provideing of Thirty thousand Pounds for the Scotts Army, in
case they shall be before Newarke by the First of November; otherwise not.
This to be communicated to the Lords.
Resolved, &c. That the House do sit in a Grand Committee every Tuesday and Thursday, immediately after
Prayers, to take into Consideration the Matter of Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace: And that this
Committee do begin first to sit To-morrow, presently after
Mr. Lisle went to the Lords, to desire a Conference, so
soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning Letters from the Committees at Yorke, touching
the Scotts Army; and concerning Papers from the Scotts
Commissioners, and some Votes thereupon.
Mr. Pury is appointed to manage this Conference.
Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That, as to the Conference concerning the Earl of Stamford's Impeachment,
they will give a Meeting, at a Conference in the Painted
Chamber, To-morrow at Ten of Clock: And, as to the
other Ordinances carried up by him, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, &c. That the Committee of Accompts be desired to present to this House the Names of Four sit Persons, or more, to be added to that Committee, to be assisting unto them in taking and auditing the Accompts of
Officers of the Armies, Waggoners, Officers and Soldiers of
the Train of Artillery; and in making Debentures thereupon.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you this
Letter from the King of Denmarke, for the Settlement of
Trade: To put you in mind of certain Votes concerning
Mr. Hancok; which they desire you to take into Consideration, for the Reasons in the Paper expressed, herewithal
sent. They desire to put you in mind of the Order concerning a Collection for the Relief of the Exiles of Cornewall.
The Letter from the King of Denmarke was read.
Ordered, &c. That the House do meet To-morrow in
the Afternoon, to take into Consideration the Letter from
the King of Denmarke, and the Chancellor of Denmarke,
concerning the Settlement of Trade, and the Papers of the
Treaty, and our Commissioners Negotiation touching that
Business: And, in the next place, to receive and take into
Consideration the Reports concerning the Navy: And
that the Declaration to be published to the World, setting
forth the true State of the Differences between the King
and the Parliament.
Ordered, &c. That the Business touching the Votes concerning Mr. Hancock, referred to the Committee of the
West, be reported on Monday next.
Mr. Lisle brings Answer from the Lords, That the
Lords will give a Conference To-morrow, in the Painted
Chamber, at Eleven a Clock.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and Mr.
The Lords do agree to the Ordinance for the Raising
and Lending of Forty thousand Pounds for Sir Thomas
Fairefaxe's Army; with these Additions and Amendments.
The Addition and Amendments to the Ordinance for
Forty thousand Pounds for Sir Thomas Fairefaxe's Ordinance were read; and, upon the Question, assented to.
The First Messengers were called in: And, as to their
Message, the House returned this Answer; That they had
considered their Message, and every Part of it; and will
send Answer by Messengers of their own.
The Second Messengers were called in: And, as to
their Message, the House returns this Answer; That they
had considered of their Message; and do agree to the
several Additions and Amendments.