Die Martis, 19 Maii, 1646.
Prayers.
THE humble Petition of Thomas Violett, Prisoner in
the Tower, was this Day read; and nothing done
upon it.
Ordered, That the Sum of Five hundred Pounds be
forthwith advanced and paid, by the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, unto Jane Atkinson, Widow and Relict of
Captain Henry Atkinson, deceased, who was slain in the
Service of the Parliament, for and towards the Subsistence
and Maintenance of the said Jane Atkinson, and of her Six
Children, as a free Gift to her and her said Children, without Account. And
It is further Ordered, That the said Committee do forthwith summon Mr. Francis Nevill, from whom the like
Sum of Five hundred Pounds is due for the Remainder of
his Fine upon his Composition; and require him to pay in
the said Five hundred Pounds; which is to be in lieu of
the said Five hundred Pounds hereby ordered to be advanced and paid to the said Jane Atkinson.
Ordered, That Mr. Rigby do, To-morrow Morring, report the Ordinance concerning the Court of
Wards.
Mr. Nathanael Fiennes reports the Heads of the Conference to be desired with the Lords, concerning the
Words spoken by Sir John Evelyn, at a Conference, on
Wednesday last: The which were read; and, upon the
Question, assented unto; and were in hæc verba; viz.
Heads for a Conference with the Lords, concerning the
Words spoken by Sir John Evelyn.
That, on Saturday last, at a Conference, the Earl of
Manchester, in Name of the House of Peers, reciting Two
Votes, wherein this House had desired the Lords Concurrence, concerning the Disposal of the Person of the King
to such a Place within the Kingdom of England, as both
Houses of the Parliament of England should appoint; and
that That Place should be Warwick-Castle; which was the
Matter of the Second Vote; and the Lords having declared, That they could not agree thereunto; the Earl of
Manchester said, That Sir John Evelyn, a Member of the
House of Commons, at a Conference desired by this House
on Wednesday last, spake these Words, or to this Effect;
"Your Lordships have heard the Sense of the House of
Commons, How much they conceive themselves concerned in Honour to have this Vote to be passed: Therefore they hope your Lordships will never depart from
bearing your Part in such a Demand. They will be very
unwilling to be necessitated to do this without your Lordships: Yet, if your Lordships shall not think fit to agree
with them, they will never fail to do their Part in making
this Demand; it being a thing wherein the Parliament and
Kingdom is so much concerned:" That the Lords had
thereupon resolved, That these Words, as they conceived, do import this Sense; That, in case their Lordships do not agree with the House of Commons, that they
will do it without them: And that the Words spoken by
Sir John Evelyn were against the Course and Proceedings
of Parliament: And that their Lordships do expect Reparation for the same.
In Answer to their Lordships;
I. The House of Commons doth admit, that Sir John
Evelyn, a Member of their House, did speak those Words,
or Words to that Effect, in Discharge of his Duty, and of
what he had in Command from this House to deliver unto
their Lordships, at a Conference on Wednesday last: But
do not admit, that the Subject of that Conference were
those Two Votes recited by their Lordships at the Conference on Saturday last, but only the former of those
Two Votes; wherein the House of Commons desired their
Lordships Concurrence, That the Commissioners of the
Parliament of Scotland, and the General of the Scotts
Army, should be desired, That the Person of the King
might be disposed of to such a Place within this Kingdom,
as the Two Houses of Parliament should appoint: For
which, at the same Conference, they gave divers Reasons
to their Lordships.
II. That the House of Commons is of Opinion, That
the Words spoken by Sir John Evelyn do not import that
Sense, which their Lordships conceive they do; and must
needs account it a great Unhappiness, that, at this Time,
when, as (according to the Expressions and Expectations
of our common Enemies) nothing in Appearance can destroy us but Differences amongst ourselves, that such Exceptions should be taken, and Reparations expected, for
Words, and those of a doubtful Interpretation; which
their Lordships only conceive to import a Sense, which
admitting they did import, they are not contrary to the
Course and Proceedings of Parliament; and the like have
been used several times this Parliament, without any Exceptions taken thereunto by their Lordships: And the
House of Commons hopeth, that their Lordships did not
intend, by their Inference upon those Words, even in the
Sense they took the same, so to bind up this House
to one way of Proceeding, as that, in no Case whatsoever,
though never so extraordinary, though never so much importing the Honour and Interest of the Kingdom, the
Commons of England might not do their Duty, for the
Good and Safety of the Kingdom, in such a Way as they
may, if they cannot do it in such a Way as they would,
and most desire.
III. That which the House of Commons have desired
your Lordships Concurrence in at this Time, and which
they have seconded with many Reasons (whereunto they
have received no Answer), is, in their Opinion, so undoubted a Right of the Parliament and Kingdom of England, and so highly concerneth them in Honour and Interest, and so much conduceth to the speedy Settling of a
happy and well-grounded Peace, so much desired by all,
that they cannot think, but that their Lordships, upon the
Consideration of their Reasons, will join with them in
this Demand; and that they will not suffer any Business, bythe-bye, to divert or delay their Resolutions therein;
whereby the Practices and Expectations of our Enemies will
be disappointed; who might justly hope, that there would
be no Concurrence between the Houses in Any thing, if
it should not be in This, of so undoubted Right, and of
so great Importance to the Kingdom, that the Person of
the King, being in the Hands and Disposing of an Army
of another Nation within this Kingdom, and in the Pay
thereof, should be disposed of to such a Place within this
Kingdom, as both Houses of the Parliament of England
shall appoint.
Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords Tomorrow Morning, to desire a free Conference, by Committees of both Houses, at such Time as their Lordships
shall think fit, concerning the Matter of the last Conference, touching Words spoken by Sir John Evelyn at a
former Conference.
A Letter from the Committee at Yorke, of 15 Maii
1646, was this Day read.
The Question being propounded, Whether this House
should declare, That this Kingdom hath no further Use of
the continuing the Scotts Army within the Kingdom of
England;
The Question was put, Whether this Question should
be now put, or no: And
It passed with the Affirmative.
And then the Question itself being put;
It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, That
this Kingdom hath no further Use of the Continuing of the
Scotts Army within the Kingdom of England.
Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One hundred thousand
Pounds be forthwith provided for the Scotts Army; Fifty
thousand Pounds thereof to be paid unto them upon the
Delivery up of all the Garisons, except Barwick, which is
to be ordered and disposed of according to the Treaty;
and the other Fifty thousand Pounds, when they shall be
in the Kingdom of Scotland.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth again desire, That
the Scotts Commissioners will send to this House the Accompts of the Arrears of their Army; and doth declare,
That, upon the Adjusting of their Accompts, they shall be
satisfied That which shall be due to them, according to the
Treaty.
Resolved, &c. That these Votes shall be sent in a Letter,
from Mr. Speaker, to the Scotts Commissioners; and
their speedy Answer desired thereunto.
Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds
be charged upon the Receipts of the Grand Excise, to be
paid in Course, and Interest, unto the Advancers or
Lenders thereof, or of any Part thereof, at the End of
every Six Months, to be employed for the Use of the
English Forces that are now in the Counties of York,
Northumberland, and Bishoprick of Duresme: And that
it be referred to the Committee of the Northern Association, to distribute the said Ten thousand Pounds to the said
Forces proportionably.