House of Commons Journal Volume 4
15 June 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 15 June 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 576-578. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23719 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 15 Junii, 1646.

Prayers.

REsolved, &c. That a Warrant be issued, under the Hand of Mr. Speaker, directed to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, for the Election of a Burgess to serve for the Borough of Old-Sarum, in the place of Sir William Savile, disabled, by Judgment of this House, to sit or serve any longer in this Parliament, and sit hence deceased.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Trenchard, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Sir Edmund Fowell, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

A Letter from Derby, of 8 Junii 1646, from G. Bennett, Mayor of the said Town; and another Letter, of 10 Junii 1646, from him also, from Derby; were this Day read; concerning the Imprisoning of some Soldiers there.

A Letter from Derby, of 9 Junii 1646, from Major Moulaine, concerning the Releasing of the said Soldiers, was this Day read.

And it is Ordered, That this Business be referred to the Committee unto which the former Business concerning Sir John Gell was referred.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to consider of reducing the Forces of Horse and Foot belonging to Derby; and of slighting the Garison of Derby, and Leaving of the Government of the said Town to the Mayor and Corporation: And they are herein to consult and consider with the Members of this House that serve for the said Town, and for the County of Derby: And they are to make a speedy Report of this Business to the House.

Mr. Whitelock reports, from the Committee to whom it was referred, the Expedient concerning the Militia of the whole Kingdom.

The which was twice read.

The Question being put, Whether the Consideration of this Business shall be put off till To-morrow Morning;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Nathanael Fiennes, Tellers for the Yea: 120.
Sir Arthur Hesilrige, With the Yea,
Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 116.
Sir Philip Stapilton, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the Consideration of this Business, concerning the Expedient brought in from the Committee, and reported by Mr. Whitelock, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, to communicate some Letters from the King, and others from the Estates of Scotland, at Newcastle, and from the Commissioners at Worcester-House; with some other Papers, which their Lordships received with them; and likewise to impart something touching the Propositions. They have granted a Pass to Colonel Richard Fielding to go beyond Sea; he first taking the Negative Oath: Wherein they desire your Concurrence.

Resolved, &c. That this House will give a present Meeting at a Conference, as is desired.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Lords, in granting a Pass to Colonel Richard Fieldinge to pass beyond the Seas; he first taking the Negative Oath.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to a present Conference, as is desired; and do concurr in a Pass to Colonel Richard Fielding; he first taking the Negative Oath.

Sir Henry Vane, Mr. Samuel Browne, Mr. Holles, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Ordered, &c. That Ten Pounds be bestowed upon the Messenger that brought this Day good News from the Army before Oxon: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, sitting at HaberdashersHall, do pay the said Ten Pounds to him accordingly.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to discharge the Officers of the Ship that took the Dogger-Boat, that was going, from Jersey, with Letters and Propositions for Pendennis, from any further Attendance.

Resolved, &c. That the House do fit again this Afternoon at Two of the Clock. And

Mr. Speaker adjourned the House accordingly.

Post Meridiem.

MR. Holles reports, from the Conference this Day with the Lords, a Letter from his Majesty, from Newcastle, of 10 Junii 1646, directed to both Houses, and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland: An Order inclosed, mentioned in the said Letter from the King, directed to the Governors of Oxford, Lichfield, Worcester, Wallingford, and all other Commanders of any his Towns, Castles, and Forts within England and Wales: A Paper from the Lords, containing the Lords Sense upon the said Letter and Warrant from the King: Which was, That the Letter of 18 Maii last, from the King, may be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, by the Members of both Houses of the Committee of both Kingdoms, according to the Directions thereof: And that the King's Warrant may be sent to Sir Thomas Fairfax: And that he may send it to all the Governors of the King's Forts and Garisons: Which was the Desire of their Lordships, as of the former Letter, for Preventing of the farther Effusion of Christian Blood.

He farther reported a Letter from the Committee of Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland residing with the Scotts Army, to both Houses of Parliament of England, of 10 Junii 1646, from Newcastle: The Copies of Two Papers, the one of them delivered by the Committee of Estates of the Parliament of Scotland to his Majesty, of the Second of June 1646; the other, signed by all the Committee and General-Officers of the Army, of 8 Junii 1646, delivered likewise to his Majesty: That the Earl of Manchester took notice of the great Faithfulness, and good Expressions, and Carriage of the Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland, since his Majesty's coming to their Army; and delivered a Vote of the House of Lords, of 25 Maii last, formerly sent to this House; and that, in this Vote, they desire the Concurrence of this House, That it may be communicated, by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms; to the Scotts Commissioners; also a Minute of a Letter, to be sent to the Committee of the Estates of Scotland.

Mr. Samuel Browne reports a Letter from the Scotts Commissioners at Worcester-House, of 15 Junii 1646: A Copy of the Letter from the Committee at York to the Committee of Estates, dated 4 Junii 1646: And Three other Copies of Letters between Colonel-General Pointes and the Committee of the Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland.

Mr. Holles reported some Alterations and Additions, which the Lords desired might be added to the Propositions.

He farther reported, That the Earl of Manchester acquainted the House, That one Captain Johnston, who came with these Letters, informed the Lords, and assured them, That Major Vandruske's Regiment was disbanded; and that none of them were suffered to be taken on upon any other Regiment of the Scotts Army; and that Vandrusk himself was going beyond the Seas: And likewise informed the House, That the Messenger attended at the Door, to give the House an Account of the Disbanding of the said Regiment.

Ordered, That this Report, and the Letters delivered in this Day by Mr. Speaker, from the Committee at York, be taken into Consideration on Wednesday Morning next.

A Letter from Mr. Arthur Annesley and Colonel Wm. Beale, of 6 Junii 1646, from Belfast; a Relation of the Defeat given to the Brittish and Scotts Forces in Ulster by the Rebels, from Mr. Annesley and Colonel Beale; a Copy of the Letters from Mr. Annesley and Colonel Beale, of 6 Junii 1646, from Belfast, to the Committees of Lancashire and Cheshire; were all this Day read.

Sir John Clotworthy reports, from the Committee for Irish Affairs, the Opinion of the said Committee, and their Reasons, for an additional Strength to be sent into Ireland.

And it is Resolved, &c. That Five thousand Foot, and Fifteen hundred Horse, over and above the Forces formerly ordered and appointed for the Carrying on of the War of Ireland, be forthwith raised and provided; whereof Fifteen hundred Foot, and Five hundred Horse, to be sent and employed for the Service of the Province of Connaght; and the Residue of the said Five thousand Foot, and Fifteen hundred Horse, to be sent and employed for the Service of the Province of Ulster.

A Letter from Sir Thomas Fairfax General, of 13 Junii 1646; and a Letter from Colonel Massy, Commander in Chief of the Western Associated Forces, of 4 Junii 1646, from the said Colonel Massy, to the General, concerning the Reducing of the Brigade under Colonel Massie's Command; were this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That so many of the Forces of Colonel Edward Massie's, Horse and Foot, as shall be thought sit, by the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to be entertained, shall be employed for the present and immediate Service of Ireland: And that the rest of them be disbanded.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That so many of the Horse, now under the Command of Major Le Hunt and Major Gibbes, as the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland shall think fit to be entertained, shall be employed for the present and immediate Service of Ireland: And that the rest of them be disbanded.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Horse, now under the Command of Colonel Moore at Gant-House, be appointed and designed for the immediate and present Service of Ireland: And that it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to entertain such of those Forces as they shall think fit.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to consider of the Forces, Horse and Foot, of Lancashire, Derbishire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Cheshire, and Leicestershire; and to entertain such of them as they shall think fit, for the present and immediate Service of Ireland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland, to treat with Colonel Sanderson's Regiment of Reformadoes, or with any other Forces, Horse or Foot, that may be spared, not exceeding the former Number designed for the Service of Ireland, to be employed for the present and immediate Service of Ireland; and to report the same to the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Lisle, Lord Lieutenant and Chief Governor of the Kingdom of Ireland, shall have Power, and is hereby authorized, to grant Commissions to the several Officers of Horse and Foot, to be employed for the present and immediate Service of Ireland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir John Temple is appointed to carry these several Votes, concerning Ireland, to the Lords, for their Concurrence: And is to acquaint them with the Letters, and Relation of the Defeat given by the Rebels to the Brittish and Scotts Forces in Ulster; and to press their Lordships to pass the Ordinance for giving the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland Power to give Commissions to the Forces formerly appointed to be raised for the Service of Ireland; the Necessity of that Kingdom requiring speedy Supplies to be sent thither.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committees of the several Counties and Associations, where any Forces are now to be taken on for the Service of Ireland, to consider how the Arrears of the Forces of their several Counties and Associations, that shall be so employed, may be, in some measure, satisfied, and the said Forces sent away: And that they do present some Course for the Paying of them to the House.

Resolved, &c. That Twenty thousand Bolls of Meal, and Four thousand Poundsworth of Cheese, and Fifty Ton of Salt, be forthwith provided for the Service of Ireland: And that it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to dispose these Provisions to such Places where they shall think them most necessary.

Resolved, &c. That Five thousand Musquets, Five thousand Swords, Two hundred Barrels of Powder, and Ball proportionable, with Thirty Tons of Match, with a Proportion of Two thousand Pikes, be forthwith provided, and immediately sent, for the Service of Ireland: And that it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to dispose of these Provisions to such Places as they shall think most necessary.

Ordered, That the Power of the Commissioners in Ulster be inlarged for Three Months after the Expiration of their present Ordinance, which determines the Third of July next: And that they may have Power to act alone, in case the Scotts Commissioners join not with them.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland do bring in their Report touching the Demands and Answers for the Delivery of Belfast into the Parliament's Hands; and their Opinions, what Course is fit to be held, for the speedy putting into the Parliament's Hands the said Garison of Belfast.

Resolved, &c. That Consideration, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum, be allowed, upon the Credit of the Receipts at Goldsmiths-Hall, to all such Persons as shall advance Ten thousand Pounds, or any Part thereof, formerly charged upon the said Receipts, for the Service of Ireland: And that the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall do make Payment of the said Ten thousand Pounds by Seven hundred Pounds per Week, together with the Interest that shall grow due, to any that shall advance the same: And it is referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to employ their Endeavours for the due Supplies and Advance of these Monies accordingly.

Ordered, That Sir John Temple do To-morrow, with the other Matters appointed to be carried by him to the Lords, carry likewise the Vote for adding Sir Wm. Waller and Mr. Wallop to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Irish Affairs; and likewise the Order concerning the Payment of Three thousand Seven hundred and Fifty Pounds due upon former Contracts to Mr. Davies.

The humble Petition of Henry Beke Esquire, HighSheriff of the County of Bucks, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to make an Estimate of all the Provisions and Supplies that are this Day voted to be sent over and transported into Ireland; and what else is appointed to be forthwith provided for the Service of Ireland; and to consider of some fitting Ways and Means for the Raising of such Monies as shall be thought fit to be forthwith provided for these Services: And, for the better carrying on these Affairs, they have Power to treat with all such Persons as shall desire to purchase Delinquents Estates, upon such Security as the House of Commons shall give them.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Walsingham have Leave to go into the Country.