House of Commons Journal Volume 4
29 June 1646

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 29 June 1646', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 4: 1644-1646 (1802), pp. 590-592. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23731 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 29 Junii, 1646.

Prayers.

ORdered, That Mr. Fell, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Mr. Langton, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Sir Roger North, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Sir John Liegh, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England, to present unto the Committee of the Revenue the Names of the several Serjeants that are appointed to go this Summer's Circuit; and to set down what Allowances are fit to be made to them respectively, with a reference to those Circuits they are appointed for, and in relation to former Precedents for Allowances, and to the present Times.

Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed to bring in an Ordinance for Regulation or Taking away of Committees do meet this Afternoon; and make their Report To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England do bring in the Instructions for the Judges that are to go this Summer's Circuit, To-morrow Morning.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Fifty Pounds be bestowed upon Mr. Thomas Edwards, for his good Service to the Parliament, in Assisting of Colonel Mitton for the Reducing of North-Wales: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, sitting at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith advance and pay the said Sum of Fifty Pounds unto the said Mr. Thomas Edwards accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, &c. That the Sum of Five hundred and Ninety Pounds Eighteen Shillings be allowed and paid, by the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, out of the Fines or Compositions of Sir John Tracy and Sir Robert Tracy Knights, Delinquents, unto Mr. Nathanael Stephens, Mr. Hodges, or Mr. Pury, or the Survivor of them; to be issued and disbursed by them, or the Survivor of them, for the Payment of several Debts due to divers Persons or Citizens of Gloucester for Cloathing, and other Things, delivered by them, for the Use of the Army then under the Command of Sir Wm. Waller.

An Ordinance for Discharge of the Commissioners of Excise for One Year's Accompt, ending the Eleventh of September 1644, was this Day read; and committed to the Committee who brought it in. And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of the Excise, and to the Committee of this House to whom the Examination of the said Accompt was especially referred; to meet together this Afternoon, in the Star-Chamber; and consider of a Discharge for the said Commissioners for the said One Year's Accompt; and also of an Ordinance for the Indemnity of the said Commissioners: And are to consider concerning the Signing of the Accompts by the Commissioners; and to report the same To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

And the Care hereof is especially referred to Mr. Greene and Mr. Scawen.

Upon Mr. Sollicitor's Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms;

It is Resolved, &c. That the Town and Garison of Winchester be forthwith disgarisoned.

The Question was propounded, That, on Monday Morning next, the House do take into Consideration all the several Garisons of the Kingdom:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question should be now put, or not;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And the Question itself being put;

It is Resolved, &c. That, on Monday Morning next, the House do take into Consideration all the several Garisons of the Kingdom.

Sir Robert Pye went to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning the Propositions.

Mr. Holles reports, from the Committee, the Title of the Propositions: The which was twice read; and amended at the Table; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence; and was in bæc verba; viz.

May it please Your Majesty,

WE the Lords and Commons, assembled in the Parliament of England, in the Name, and on the Behalf, of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, in the Name, and on the Behalf, of the Kingdom of Scotland, do humbly present unto Your Majesty the humble Desires and Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, agreed upon by the Parliaments of both Kingdoms respectively; unto which we do pray Your Majesty's Assent; and that they, and all such Bills as shall be tendered to Your Majesty, in pursuance of them, or any of them, may be established and enacted for Statutes, and Acts of Parliament, by Your Majesty's Royal Assent, in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms respectively.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, from the Lords, That they will grant a Conference, in the Painted Chamber, presently, concerning the Propositions, as is desired.

Mr. Fyennes reports the Declaration for saving the Liberties and Rights of the Parliament of England, for altering or repealing any Law that shall be made upon the Propositions: The which was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence, and that it may be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners; and was in hæc verba; viz.

WHereas the Lords and Commons, assembled in the Parliament of England, in the Name, and on the Behalf, of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, in the Name, and on the Behalf, of the Kingdom of Scotland, have thought fit to send to the King the humble Desires and Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, agreed upon by the Parliaments of both Kingdoms respectively: The Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England do Declare, That it is not their Intention, that any Construction should be made thereupon, as if either Kingdom had any Interest in the Matter of each other's Propositions, or in the legislative Power of each other, concerning any of the said Propositions; but that it remaineth distinct in each Kingdom respectively: And that, notwithstanding any joint Proceedings upon the said Propositions, either Kingdom hath Power of themselves to continue, repeal, or alter any Law that shall be made upon the said Propositions, for the Good and Government of either Kingdom respectively. And it is hereby Declared, That both Houses are fully resolved to maintain and preserve inviolably the Solemn League and Covenant, and the Treaties betwixt the Kingdoms of England and Scotland.

Sir Thomas Widdrington reports some Mistakes and Omissions in the Propositions; which are desired to be amended.

Resolved, &c. That, in the First Branch of the Thirteenth Proposition, the Word "raised" be added, between the Words "to be" and the Word "levied."

Resolved, &c. That this Clause, "and the said Lords and Commons, during the said Space of Twenty Years, shall have Power," be added before the Fourth Branch of the Thirteenth Proposition.

Resolved, &c. That, in the Second Branch of the Eleventh Qualification of the Sixteenth Proposition, the Words "hath been" be put out; and, instead thereof, the Words "is now" inserted.

Mr. Reynolds went to the Lords to desire them to sit awhile.

Resolved, &c. That a Proposition concerning the Great Seal, and a Proposition for taking away the Court of Wards and Liveries, shall be now sent, with the other Propositions, to the King: And that this House will insist upon the Sending of the Votes, formerly passed this House, for Increasing of the Forfeitures of such Delinquents as have not rendered themselves before the First Day of May now last past: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired to the said Votes; and the said Propositions be taken into Consideration, the first Business, Tomorrow Morning.

Mr. Reynolds brings Answer, That the Lords will sit awhile.

Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Nathanael Fyennes, Sir Arthur Haselrigg, are appointed Managers of this Conference; and were to desire the Lords Concurrence to the Vote for sending the Fifth and Sixth Propositions, without any Addition; for communicating the Declaration for Saving of the Rights of the Parliament of England, in altering or repealing any Laws to be made upon the Propositions; to the Amendments of the Mistakes in the Thirteenth Proposition, and in the Second Branch of the Eleventh Qualification of the Sixteenth Proposition; and to the Votes, remaining with their Lordships, for Increasing of the Forfeitures of such Delinquents as did not render themselves before the First Day of May last.

They were likewise to acquaint the Lords, That all the other Amendments, mentioned in the Letter from the Scotts Commissioners, of 25 Junii instant, from Worcester-House, and in the Paper inclosed in the said Letter, are assented to; and also the Names of those Persons desired to be excepted in the Kingdom of Scotland, set down in a Paper of 25 Junii instant, delivered by the Marquis of Argile at the late Conference, and sent to this House by their Lordships.

And they are further to acquaint their Lordships, That this House intends to send a Proposition concerning the Great Seal; and another concerning the Taking away of the Court of Wards and Liveries.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Thomas Erle, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. John Lisle, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.