Tuesday, the 9th of March, 1651.
Printing Act of Oblivion.
ORDERED, That it be referred to the Council of
State, to take into Consideration the Abuse of reprinting and mis-printing of the Act, intituled, An Act of
General Pardon and Oblivion; and to give Order therein:
And likewise to consider of some Course for preventing
the Mischiefs and Inconveniences that may arise thereby,
for the future; and report the same to the Parliament.
Grant to Gen. Skippon.
The Lord Commissioner Lisle reports from the Committee to whom it was referred to end the Differences between Major General Skippon, and the Persons claiming
Estates and Interests in the Lands settled upon the said
Major General Skippon, by Act of Parliament.
UPON the Petition of Philip Lord Wharton, and
the Lady Jane his Wife, to the Committee appointed
the 27th of August 1651, to examine and consider of
the Differences which might arise concerning the Lands
granted to Major General Skippon; and to see the same
be by him quietly enjoyed; wherein they set forth the
Title of the said Lady Jane to a Moiety thereof, by Conveyance from Arthure Lord Grey, of Wilton, deceased;
and as one of the Coheirs of his Body: And withal tender
a Release, by Fine, or otherwise, as they shall be directed
to the said Major General, of the Lands settled on him:
As also, upon one other Petition of the said Lord and
Lady Wharton to the Committee of Obstructions, for
Parcel of the said Lord Grey's Lands, appointed to be
sold as the Duke of Buckingham's;
The Case, upon Examination, appears to be as followeth:
It is proved, That Arthure Lord Grey, of Wilton, had
Two Sons, Thomas Lord Grey, and Mr. Wm. Grey, both
deceased without Issue; and Two Daughters, Elizabeth
the Wife of Sir Francis Goodwyn, of Winchendon, in the
County of Bucks; and Bridget, Wife of Sir Roland Egerton, of Farthing, in the County of Northampton, all deceased. The said Lady Goodwyn had Issue Arthure her
Son and Heir; who had Issue only one Daughter, the
now Wife of the Lord Wharton.
And it is proved, That the said Arthure Lord Grey, by
his Deed indented, bearing Date the last Day of December,
in the 17th Year of Queen Elizabeth, and inrolled in
Chancery in February following, did, in Consideration of
Marriage, and for a Jointure for his Wife, Preferment of
his Children, and other Considerations, settle the Manor
of Giffords, otherwise called Giffords Manor in Waddon,
with the Appurtenances, amongst other things, and all
other his Lands in the County of Bucks, upon himself for
Life: and, after some particular Estates, long since determined, upon the Heirs of the Body of the said Arthure
Lord Grey; with Remainder to his own right Heirs.
And it appears, by Record, and upon Oath, That the
Manors and Lands of Whaddon, Bletchley, and Water
Eaton, with divers Lands in Little Horwood, Fenny Stratford, and Little Brickhill, in the said County of Bucks, were
the Lands of the said Arthure Lord Grey; and after, of
the said Thomas Lord Grey, his Son, which are settled
upon Major General Skippon: And that the Manor of
Bittlesdon, in the said County of Bucks, also was the said
Arthure and Thomas Lord Greye's; and is the only remaining Parcel of the said Thomas Lord Greye's Estate;
and that it is now in the Disposal of the Parliament by
the Delinquency of the Duke of Buckingham: And that,
by the Survey of the 14th of October 1651, returned, according to the late Act for Sale of Delinquents Lands, it
appears to be of the Value of 401l.9s. 2d. yearly,
above 21l. 16s. Reprizes: And that, in Reversion, after
some Years, there will be an Improvement of Rent, to
the Value of 258l. 17s. 5d. yearly: And the Materials
of the Manor-houses are valued at 30l. and the Timberwood and Under-woods at 1,308l. 12s.
And whereas the Objection is, That the Lady Wharton is debarred from any Title to the said Lands, by the
Attainder of the said Thomas Lord Grey; after which the
Lands were granted to George Duke of Buckingham, from
the Crown; the said Lord Wharton and his Lady, in
Answer thereunto, do tender as followeth, unto Consideration, Why the said Attainder, if any such there were,
was unjust; and ought not, in the Judgment of Parliament, to prejudice their Right:
For that, first, There was not any such Practice attempted; though the Day, charged to have been agreed
upon for the Execution thereof, was past, before any Discovery thereof: And that it is in itself incredible, that
ever any such Attempt was or should be made; namely,
That Eight or Ten Men should go about to take King
James and Prince Henry; and afterwards to take the Tower
of London, and imprison him there: And if they failed in
taking the Tower of London, then to ride to Dover, and
take Dover Castle, which they likewise had not, and imprison him there: And that this should be first consulted upon the 14th Day of June, and executed the
24th of the same June: All which appears, by the Consent of the History of those Times, to have been the Treason laid to his and their Charge: Which Testimony of
the things speaking for themselves, they urge as a very
And, secondly, admitting there were such a Design,
they urge, that it is very improbable, that the said Thomas
Lord Grey should be assistant in it to join with Papists
and Priests; it being proved, upon Oath, That the said
Thomas Lord Greye's Education was under Two able and
godly Ministers; the one of them Doctor Sparkes, appointed to manage the Conference at Hampton Court, in
Behalf of those then called the Non-conformists; the
other of them, Mr. Travers, being discountenanced by
the Bishops of those Times, exercised his Ministerial
Function in the said Lord Grey's House: And it being
proved, upon Oath, that he the said Lord Grey was adjudged truly godly and religious, and so generally accounted, and was much taken notice of for a Lover of
his Country, and the Honour and Liberties thereof: And
it is proved, from several Persons, who believe he spake
Truth therein, that he denied the same at the Block,
where he expected Death, though he was reprieved; and
that he did also deny it all his Life after.
Grant to General Skippon.
And, thirdly, it is proved, upon Oath, That it was
then frequently reported, that the said Lord Grey, and Sir
Walter Relegh had very hard Measure, in the Sentence
of High Treason against them: Which was also the Opinion of After-times, so general, that it amounts to common Fame, that his Crime was not real, and the Punishment consequently unjust: And the Petitioners urge herein
what Sir Anthony Weldon, in this Case, lately writ and
printed in these Words, "That this Treason is left with
so dark a Comment, that Posterity will never understand
the Text, or remember any such Treason: And though
some lost their Lives, yet the World was never satisfied
with the Justice: That it was a Treason composed of a
strange Medley, Protestants, Puritans, Papists, and
Atheists, to meet all in one, and keep Counsel; which sure
they did, because they knew not of any: That King
James, upon faithful Relations given him of the Innocency of Ralegh, Cobham, and Grey, and slight Proofs
against them, would not be drawn to sign Warrants for
Execution of them; so that it was believed an arrant
Trick of State, to overthrow some, and disable others."
Which is further confirmed; for that it is believed,
upon Oath, to be true, That, as to the Lord Grey, it was
a Plot of his Enemies to ruin him; for that many of his
Ancestors had been in great Commands, and eminent in
the Wars against the Scotts; and for that the said
Arthur Lord Grey, his Father, was of Counsel at the
Condemnation of the Queen of Scotts, and had justified
Secretary Davison in that Business: And for that, after
the Death of Queen Elizabeth, the Peers meeting and
consulting what was convenient for the present Affairs,
the said Thomas Lord Grey, out of a Love to his Country, and the Liberties thereof, desired, and insisted upon
it, that Articles might be considered of for the Good of
this Nation and People, and for the Preservation of the
fundamental Laws and Liberties of the Kingdom, to be
by King James agreed unto, before his Admission; the
said Thomas Lord Grey insisting upon it, as a thing sit to
be done, and which the King would accept; it being his
Interest to be admitted upon any Terms.
And, fourthly, If any such Attempt of the Surprizal of
King James were admitted to be true, and that the said
Lord Grey were accessary thereunto; yet it ought not, in
Judgment of Parliament, to prejudice the Petitioner's
Right; for that it appears, that the Charge thereof, and
the Sentence thereupon, against the said Lord Grey, was,
in Time, before the Act of Recognition, in the first Year
of King James his Reign; and so no Colour of his then
being King by Virtue of the said Act.
Whereunto this is also further tendered to Consideration, Why the said Surprizal, if admitted, yet was not
Treason; for that, by Two Acts of Parliament, in the
28th and 35th Years of King Henry the VIIIth, and by
the Will of the said King Henry the VIIIth, by Authority
of the said Acts, which said Will remains upon Record
in the Prerogative Court, the Crown of this Realm was
limited and appointed, after the Heirs of the Body of the
said King Henry the VIIIth, unto the Heirs of the Body
of the Lady Francis, eldest Daughter of the Lady Mary
the French Queen, second Sister of the said King Henry:
And, for Default of such Issue, to the Heirs of the Body
of the Lady Eleanor, second Daughter of the Body of the
said Lady Mary: And, for Default of such Issue, to the
next rightful Heirs; which said Two Daughters of the
said Lady Mary had, at the Death of Queen Elizabeth,
several Heirs of their several Bodies then living: And it
being thereby enacted, that it should be Treason for any
Heir of the said King Henry, or any other Person, to demand or challenge the Crown of England, in any other
Form or Course, than as by the Authority aforesaid it
should be disposed and limited; or to attempt to deprive
any to whom the said Crown should be disposed accordingly: And that any such Person, so demanding or attempting, should lose their Claim and Challenge to the
Crown, and suffer as in Cases of High Treason: Which
said Statute of the 35th of King Henry the VIIIth, as
to the Limitation and Declaration of the Succession of the
Crown, was likewise confirmed by Acts of Parliament in
the first Year of Edward the Sixth, and in the first Year
of Queen Elizabeth.
And it is further proved, That, in Satisfaction of the
Injury done to those Persons attainted upon the said Pretence of Treason, the King granted most of the Estates,
then forfeited, to those who were next in Remainder.
And it . . proved upon Oath, that the Duke of Buckingham paid the said Sir Roland Egerton, Husband of the
said Bridgett, one of the Two said Daughters and Coheirs
of the said Arthure Lord Grey, 10,000l. at one time, for
his Lady's Interest in the said Estate; she having divers
Leases of the said Lord Greye's Estate, which the King
had granted after the said Attainder: and that the Duke
gave the said Lady Egerton 1,000l. over and above; and
procured her Husband, Sir Rowland, to be made a Baron.
And it appears upon Record, That thereupon the said
Lady Egerton did release all her Title by Fine to the said
Duke of Buckingham.
And it is proved by Oath, that neither the said Elizabeth Lady Goodwyn, nor Sir Francis Goodwyn, her Husband, nor the said Arthure Goodwyn, nor his Daughter
the Lady Wharton, the other Coheir, nor any other, to or
for any of their Uses, ever had any the least Satisfaction
for their Interest in the said Lord Greye's Estate.
And it is proved, upon Oath, That the said Arthure
Goodwyn expressed himself on his Death-bed, That if God
blessed the Parliament with Success in their Undertakings,
he doubted not to recover his Birthright in Whaddon-Chace, and the rest of the Estate in that County, from
which he was unjustly detained: And that he often declared his Intentions to prosecute in this present Parliament for a Moiety of the said Lord Greye's Estate, or
Satisfaction for the same; and that many of the Wellaffected in Buckinghamshire have often taken notice of the
Injury they supposed to be done to the said Arthure
Goodwyn, in being kept from his Right, as to a Moiety
of the said Estate; and have wished, that his Posterity
might be restored thereunto.
The Committee being appointed, by the Order of the
27th of August last, to see that Major General Skippon do
quietly enjoy the Manors and Lands settled upon him by
Act of Parliament, do, for that End, think sit that the
Right of the said Lord and Lady Wharton should be barred by Act of Parliament; or that they should make Releases thereof: And the Petitioners do submit to the
Judgment of the Parliament therein; and do withal humbly petition the Parliament, that the said Manor of Biddlesdon, which is proved to be the only remaining Parcel
of the said Lord Greye's Estate, and now in the Disposal
of the Parliament, by the Delinquency of the Duke of
Buckingham, may be conveyed, by the Trustees for Sale
of Delinquents Lands, on certain Persons in Trust for
the Use of the said Lady Wharton, during the said Lord
Wharton's Life; the Remainder to her and her Heirs.
All which is humbly submitted to the Parliament.
Lord Wharton's Claims.
He also reports, The humble Petition of Philip Lord
Wharton, and the Lady Jane his Wife, sole Daughter
and Heir of Arthure Goodwyn Esquire, deceased; in the
Right and Behalf of the said Lady Jane: Which was this
The Question being propounded, That the Trustees
for Sale of the Lands and Estates forfeited to the Commonwealth for Treason, be authorized and required to
convey the Manor of Biddlesdon, in the County of Bucks,
on such Persons as the Lord Wharton shall nominate, in
Trust for the Use of Jane Lady Wharton, Wife of the
said Lord Wharton, during the said Lord Wharton's Life;
the Remainder to her and her Heirs;
And the Question being put, that this Question be
It passed with the Negative.
The Question being put, That the Petition of the
Lord Wharton and his Lady, and the Narrative reported
concerning their Claim, be committed;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Sir Arthur Hesilrig,
||Tellers for the Yeas:
|Sir John Danvers,
||With the Yeas,
Earl of Pembroke,
||Tellers for the Noes:
||With the Noes,
So it was Resolved, That the Petition of the Lord
Wharton, and his Lady, and the Narrative reported concerning their Claim, be committed.
Resolved, That the same be committed to the Committee for removing Obstructions in the Sale of the
Lands and Estates forfeited to the Commonwealth for
Treason, to examine and state the Matter of Fact, and
report the same to the House.
Well-affected at Worcester.
Mr. Sallwey reports from the Committee to whom it
was referred to consider of the well-affected Persons who
suffered in the late Siege of Worcester, the Matter of Fact
concerning the Losses of the well-affected in the City and
County of the City of Worcester, and the County of
Worcester, by reason of the late War in the City and
County aforesaid, in and about the End of August, and
the Beginning of September last.
That the Number of the well-affected Persons within
the said City, having so suffered, is 266; as they were
taken upon Oath, and certified by Jervise Buck Esquire,
Wm. Collins, Edward Elvins, Commissioners authorized
by this Committee according to Order; and, that the
Losses of the said Persons, as they were taken upon Oath,
and certified by the Commissioners above-named, amount
to the Sum of 18,708l. 19s. 7d.
The Number of the Names of the well-affected Persons
inhabiting in the County of Worcester, in several Parishes
and Towns adjacent to the said City, having so suffered,
is 808: as they were taken upon Oath, and certified by
Wm. Jefferis, Jervise Buck, Nicholas Acton, John Lathum,
Esquires, Edward Elvins, Wm. Collins, Walter Gyles,
Abel Richardson, Andrew Yarranton, Commissioners,
authorized as aforesaid: That the Losses of the said Persons, as they were taken upon Oath, and certified by the
Commissioners above named, amount to the Sum of
13,121l. 12s. 8d.
|The Total of the Losses aforesaid, amounts to the Sum of
Ordered, That this Business be re-committed upon the
Ordered, That it be referred to that Committee, to
consider how a Sum, not exceeding 10,000l. may be
raised out of the Estates of such Persons in the City and
County of the City of Worcester, and also in the said
County of Worcester, as were Delinquents in the last
Action of the King of Scotts, and report the same, with
the Names of such Delinquents, to the House.
The humble Petition of Edward Elvyns, Alderman of
the City of Worcester, was this Day read; and, upon the
Question, referred to that Committee.
The humble Petition of Thomas Wryter of the City of
Worcester, Tanner and Maltster, was this Day read; and,
upon the Question, referred to that Committee.