House of Commons Journal Volume 6
11 November 1648

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 6: 11 November 1648', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 6: 1648-1651 (1802), pp. 74. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=25518 Date accessed: 22 October 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 11 Novembris, 1648.

Prayers.

Col. Gould.

ORDERED, That, on Monday Morning next, the Report concerning Colonel Gould be made, the first Business.

New England.

Ordered, That, on Wednesday Morning next, the Ordinance concerning New England be read the Second time.

Chippenham Writ.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do forthwith issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, for issuing a Writ for the Election of a Burgess to serve in Parliament for the Borough of Chippenham in the County of Wiltess, in the place of Sir Edward Hungerford, formerly chosen to serve for that Borough, and since deceased.

Treaty with the King.

According to the Order Yesterday made, the House took into Consideration the King's last Answer, of the Fourth of November 1648, to the Exceptions of both Houses, presented unto him by the Commissioners in the Isle of Wight, to his former Answers to the Proposition touching the Church.

Resolved, &c. That his Majesty's last Answer, of the Fourth of November 1648, as to That Part concerning Bishops, and Church Government and Discipline, is unsatisfactory.

Resolved, &c. That his Majesty's Answer to That Part of the Proposition concerning the Book of Common Prayer, wherein he declares, He will not insist upon any Provision for the Continuance of the same in his Majesty's Chapel for himself and his Household, is satisfactory.

The Question being put, Whether there shall be any Addition made to the Question propounded,

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Annesley, Tellers for the Yea: 48.
Mr. Bulkley, with the Yea,
Mr. Erle, Tellers for the Noe, 57.
Mr. Robert Goodwyn, with the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That this Clause in the King's Answer, touching the Book of Common Prayer; viz. "Nevertheless, his Majesty declares, That he intendeth to use some other set Form of Divine Service;" is not satisfactory.

Resolved, &c. That his Majesty's Answer to that Part of the Proposition, "That an Act or Acts be passed, for a stricter Course to prevent the Saying or Hearing of Mass in the Court, or any other Part of this Kingdom, or the Kingdom of Ireland, wherein he declares, That he will consent thereunto," is satisfactory.

Resolved, &c. That that Part of his Majesty's last Answer to the Proposition and Votes, concerning the Church; viz. "As to all other Particulars in your Paper mentioned, his Majesty having, in his former Answers, consented so far as possible he can, as he stands at present persuaded in his Judgment, doth refer himself thereunto; and since his Majesty, by his Concessions, hath brought all Difference concerning the Church into so narrow a Compass, that the chief visible Obstruction is That wherein, really, in Conscience, he is not satisfied, he hopes his Two Houses will not put further Pressures of so tender a Nature upon him, when it is most likely, that Time and Debate will happily reconcile all those Differences;" is not satisfactory: And that the Commissioners be hereby authorized and required to acquaint his Majesty herewith; and to press him to a full Consent to the Propositions concerning the Church.

Ordered, That on Monday Morning next, the first Business, and nothing to intervene, the House do take into Consideration the King's Propositions, in the First place; and next, the Propositions to be further made by the Houses to the King.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Annesley carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Vote concerning Seven Persons to be excepted from Pardon, with some Alterations: The Names of the Seven Delinquents to be banished: The Fine of One hundred thousand Pounds, to be set upon the Earl of Cambridge: Persons engaged in the late War, since the First of January last 1647, to compound at a full yearly Value more than others in the same Qualification: The Names of Seven Delinquents to be excepted from Pardon: Order for Persons in the First Branch of the Proposition concerning Delinquents, to be removed from his Majesty's Counsels, &c.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to bring this Paper; That they have appointed a Committee of Seven Lords, and desire you to appoint a proportionable Number of this House, to meet, and to consider of those Concessions that the King hath made to the Propositions; and to frame them into Bills; and likewise to consider, Wherein the King's Answer come short of our Desire in the Propositions, in those Things which are not granted in terminis; and to report all these to the Houses, that they may be the better prepared for the Consideration of the Houses.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Lawyers of this House, appointed for drawing Bills upon the Propositions assented unto by his Majesty, be, and are hereby, injoined to sit; and to present the Bills, by them prepared, to this House.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That, Mr. Weavor have Leave to go into the Country.

Dr. Bastwick.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to consider of Dr. Bastwick's Business, may proceed upon the Ordinance, sent from the Lords to this House with Amendments and Addition of Names, for the Raising of his Reparations out of the Estates of all those which this House, in their former Votes, of Two-and-twentieth of February, and Second of March 1640, have voted, shall give him Reparations.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered of their Lordships Message; and will return Answer thereunto by Messengers of their own.