Lunæ, 17 die Junii, 1678.
Prayers.
Stannary Laws.
A BILL concerning the Stannaries in Cornwall and
Devon, was read the First time.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill be read a Second time,
after Ten of the Clock.
Burglaries, &c.
A Bill to prevent Burglaries, and robbing Houses, in
London, and the Weekly Bills of Mortality, was read the
Second time.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill be committed to Alderman
Love, Sir Hen. Ford, Sir Trevor Williams, Sir Anth. Irby,
Mr. Greenvile, Col. Kirkby, Col. Birch, Alderman Bence,
Sir Phil. Warwick, Sir Sam. Bernardiston, Sir Edw. Deering, Sir Anth. Irby, Sir Geo. Downing, Sir John Coryton,
Mr. Papillon, Sir Court. Poole, Sir Gilbert Talbot, Mr.
Treby, Sir Wm. Lowther, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Sir Tho.
Stringer, Mr. Crouch, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Sir John
Knight, Sir Giles Hungerford, Mr. Goreing, Sir John
Pettus, Sir John Barnaby, Sir Rob. Markham, Mr. Trelawney, Mr. Stawell, Mr. Westfaling, Sir John Berkenhead,
Sir Rich. Temple, Sir John Mallet, Sir Ro. Berkley, Mr.
Mallet, Mr. Wright, Mr. Foote, Sir Wm. Blacket, Mr.
Darcy, Mr. Prideux, Mr. Sparks, Sir Ric. Corbet: And
they are to meet To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the
Afternoon, in the Inner Court of Wards.
Ditto.
A Petition of several Artificers and Handicraftsmen,
living in and about the City of London, was read.
Resolved, &c. That the said Petition be referred to the
Consideration of the Committee last appointed.
Gresham's Debts.
An ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An
Act for vesting the Rectory of Westerham in the County
of Kent in Trustees, to be sold for the Payment of the
Debts of Edward Gresham Esquire, was read the Second
time.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill be commited to Lord
Gorge, Sir Court. Poole, Sir John Bramston, Sir John
Elwes, Sir Wm. Hickman, Col. Phillips, Col. Howard,
Mr. Price, Sir Cyril Wyche, Sir Edm. Jenings, Sir Wm.
Haward, Mr. Weld, Sir Anth. Irby, Mr. Mainard, Mr.
Packer, Sir Hen. Ford, Sir Ric. Wiseman, Mr. Henly, Mr.
Onslow, Mr. Dalmahoy, Mr. Wright, Sir John Coryton,
Sir Nich. Slaning, Mr. Man, Sir Ad. Browne, Sir Fr.
Clarke, Sir Robert Can, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Mr. Neale,
Sir John Barnaby, Sir John Reresby, Mr. Noseworthy,
Mr. Boreman, Mr. Goreing, Mr. Aldworth, Mr. Spry,
Mr. May, Sir Gilbert Talbot, Sir Jon. Trelawney, Sir
Ch. Wheeler, Sir Rich. Everard, Mr. Osborne, Mr. Buscawen, Sir Rog. Bradshaw, Sir Wm. Blacket, Mr. Crouch,
Sir Edw. Deering: And they are to meet To-morrow at
Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Speaker's
Chamber.
Dean of St. Paul's Estates.
Sir John Mallett reports from the Committee, to whom
the Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An Act for increasing the Revenue of the Dean of St. Paul's, and for
assuring the Estates of his Tenants in Shadwell in the
County of Middlesex, with an Amendment agreed by the
Committee to be made to the Bill: Which he read in his
Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's
Table: Where the same was twice read; and, upon the
Question, agreed.
And the Bill, with the Amendment, being read a
Third time;
Resolved, &c. That the Bill so amended, do pass:
And that the Title be agreed.
Exporting Leather.
A Bill to export Leather was read the Third time.
The Question being put, That the Bill do pass;
The House divided.
The Yeas go forth.
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Tellers, |
Col. Birch, |
for the Yeas, |
141. |
| Mr. Papillon, |
| Tellers, |
Sir Hen. Ford, |
for the Noes, |
72. |
| Mr. Foote, |
And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill do pass: And that the Title
be, An Act to revive and continue an Act for giving Liberty to buy and export Leather, and Skins tanned or
dressed: And that Sir Henry Ford do carry up the Bill to
the Lords for their Concurrence: And also the Bill, with
the Amendment, on the Behalf of the Dean of St. Paul's.
Cave's Will.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Timothy Baldwyn
and Sir Edw. Low;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent you down a Bill,
intituled, An Act for the better Enabling the Trustees
of Sir Tho. Cave Knight and Baronet, deceased, for the
Selling of Lands for the Performance of the Will of the
said Sir Thomas Cave; and likewise for the vesting and
settling other Lands: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Navy and Army Estimates.
Mr. Powle reports from the Committee to whom the
Consideration of lessening the present Charge of the Fleet
was referred; and to whom the Master of the Ordnance
was to bring in his Estimates; That the Committee had
taken the Matter, to them referred, into their Consideration; and agreed upon a Report; which they had
ordered him to make to the House; as followeth:
Upon the Fourteenth of February last, this House did
resolve upon the several Rates of the Ships, and Numbers
of Men that were to be employed upon them, in the
Service of a War against the French King.
The State of the Navy at that time was this:
There was abroad then, in the King's Service.
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35 Ships,
2 Ketches,
6 Sloops,
4 Fireships,
16 Yachts,
—
63 In all. |
Of these were employed |
9 Ships, |
In the Downs, Channel, and River. |
| 1 Ketch, |
|
2 Fireships, |
|
16 Yachts, |
|
23 Ships, |
In the Streights. |
|
6 Sloops, |
|
2 Fireships, |
|
1 Ship, |
In the Barbodoes. |
|
1 Ketch, |
|
1 Ships, — |
In Ireland, |
|
1 Ships, |
at Hamborough. |
In all, 63.
The Number of Men upon all those Ships and Vessels,
6,334.
Upon the Thirtieth of May, when this House resolved
the present Charge of the Navy should be lessened, there
were actually set out.
77 of the King's Ships.
12 Merchant Ships.
2 Ketches.
13 Fire Ships.
6 Sloops.
16 Yachts.
29 Tenders.
In all, 89 Ships of War, 13 Fire Ships, and 53 small
Vessels.
The Number of Men, upon all those Ships and
Vessels, 15,609.
The Committee thought it reasonable, That all those
Ships, that were abroad in his Majesty's Service upon
the Fourteenth of February, and have so continued till
this time, should remain upon the King's Charge; and
the rest should be defrayed by this House.
So, the King's part being taken out of the whole Number,
there remained to be discharged on the publick Account,
42 King's Ships, 12 Merchant Ships, 9 Fire Ships,
and 29 Tenders.
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|
Men aboard those Ships, 9,275. |
£. |
s. |
d. |
| The Wages of these 9,275 Men, from the time of their Taking-in, to the Fifth of June, according to the Account given in by the Officers of the Navy, |
33,860 |
18 |
7 |
| The Victual of 9,275 Men, for Ten Weeks, after the Rate of Twenty Shillings a Man, per Mensem, |
23,187 |
10 |
— |
| For the Loss sustained by returning 72,813l. worth of Victuals, after the Rate of Three Shillings and Six-pence deducted out of every Twenty Shillings, according to his Majesty's Contract made the Eleventh of March: When he declared for the Victuals of 16,000 Men, for Six Months, after the Rate of Twenty Shillings per Mensem a Head, |
12,742 |
5 |
6 |
| For Stores for present Use, and for Magazines for refitting and furnishing the said Ships, in case they had been in Service, |
86,821 |
5 |
2 |
| For Wages to Workmen employed in his Majesty's Yards, for the Fitting of the said Ships, from the Fourteenth of February to the Twenty-ninth of May, |
18,116 |
1 |
1 |
| For the Repairing of Nine of the said Ships in several Merchants Docks since the First of March last, |
10,308 |
16 |
8 |
| Freight due to several Merchant Ships, hired for Six Months; but, being to be discharged presently, it is estimated, that they will be satisfied with Three Months Pay; which comes to |
6,692 |
6 |
— |
| For buying of Seven Merchants Ships for Fireships, and One for a Storeship, |
7,673 |
11 |
— |
| For the Freight of Thirty small Vessels, employed for Tenders upon the said Fleet, at Five Shillings a Ton per Mensem, |
1,508 |
— |
— |
| For Transportation of Horse and Foot to Ostend, Guernsey, and Jersey; as also of Men and Ammunition to Jamaica; |
4,000 |
— |
— |
| For Victuals, for 1,100 Men for Three Months, sent to Guernsey and Jersey, |
1,474 |
10 |
— |
| For the Charges of impressing Seamen, for Manning of the Fleet, |
7,000 |
— |
— |
| Ordnance. |
213,395 |
4 |
2 |
|
|
£. |
s. |
d. |
|
|
|
| For the Charge of Ship Carriages, working and making Gunpowder, Shot, Match, Arms, and Forty Rounds of all Gunners Stores, for Fifty-four Ships, their Tenders, with all incident Charges, |
63,683 |
— |
— |
86,683 |
— |
— |
| For Saltpetre for the Making of 11,000 Barrels of Gunpowder, for furnishing the said Ships |
23,000 |
— |
— |
| In all,£. |
300,078 |
4 |
2 |
|
| Received by the Treasurer of the Navy, upon the Poll Bill, |
80,000 |
— |
— |
| Received in Orders upon the Poll Bill, |
40,000 |
— |
— |
| Received by the Master of the Ordnance, upon the Poll Bill, |
20,000 |
— |
— |
| Received more by him in Orders, |
10,000 |
— |
— |
|
150,000 |
— |
— |
| Rests due to the Navy and Ordnance, |
150,078 |
4 |
2 |
That there is now remaining in Stores actually served
in 39,000l. and 21,000l. contracted for, comprehended
in the particular Sums presented in the Report; over
and above what Stores are on Board the King's Part of
the Ninety Ships; which are all fitted out, and Stores
on Board for Six Months; and over and above what is
provided for the Thirty Ships now in Building.
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|
Arms and Artillery. |
£. |
s. |
d. |
| The Charge of the Ordnance, Carriages and Provisions of War, and other incident Charges belonging thereunto, provided and contracted for by the Office of the Ordnance, since the Fourteenth of February last, for the Service of the new-raised Forces, Fortifications. |
81,701 |
3 |
11 |
|
Towards building a Fort at St. Christophers, |
500 |
— |
— |
| For Fortifications at Gosport, |
,356 |
— |
— |
| For Fortifications in the Isle of Wight, |
500 |
— |
— |
| For repairing a Fort at Burlington, |
100 |
— |
— |
| In all,£. |
96,361 |
3 |
11 |
Disposition of Grants.
Mr. Powle reports from the Committee to whom it
was referred to take an Account of the Disbursements
of the 200,000l. That the Committee had taken the
same into Consideration; and ordered him to make the
Report following:
1677 and 1678.
Received out of the Exchequer, of the Loans upon
the additional Excise, for the Service of his Majesty's
Navy; viz.
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1677. |
£. |
s. |
d. |
|
June 28 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
|
July 2 |
20,000 |
— |
— |
| 6 |
20,000 |
— |
— |
|
Aug. 25 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
|
Octob. 11 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
| 17 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
| 26 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
|
Jan. 29 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
|
March 9 |
5,000 |
— |
— |
| 12 |
11,000 |
— |
— |
| 1678. |
|
June 5 |
10,000 |
— |
— |
| 7 |
5,000 |
— |
— |
| 10 |
9,000 |
— |
— |
|
150,000 |
— |
— |
| Beside 10000, ordered but not yet received, |
10,000 |
— |
— |
| In all,£. |
160,000 |
— |
— |
| The Total Sum of the Receipts of the Navy, from the First of January 1676 / 7;, to the last of December, 1677, amounts to |
569,293 |
8 |
6 |
90,000l. whereof was received out of the Seventeen
Months Tax for building Ships.
And 90,000l. more was borrowed by Loan, on the
Fifth-part of the additional Excise.
The Issues of the Navy during that time, were as
followeth:
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|
|
£. |
s. |
d. |
| Bills paid, the Imprest abated, |
373,140 |
11 |
11 |
| Ships and Yards, |
151,267 |
— |
— |
| Tickets, |
21,700 |
— |
— |
| Treasurer's Salary and Exchequer Fees, |
7,534 |
4 |
3 |
| In all,£. |
553,641 |
16 |
2 |
| Remains in Cash, to balance the Account, |
15,651 |
12 |
4 |
Out of this Sum there is to be deducted 90,000l. for the Expence of building the new Ships within that Time.
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|
So the Total of the Money expended on the Navy in the Year 1677, amounts to |
463,641 |
16 |
2 |
Besides which there is a Debt contracted within the
said Time, for Wages earned, and Stores served in for the
Use of the Navy, which hath been still paid off as the
Money borrowed upon the Credit of the additional
Excise came in: But a certain Estimate of that Debt
they could not make, without more Time.
Neither could they give us a certain Estimate of the
Debt which was due by the Navy, at the Beginning of
the said Time.
They say the Navy was very much out of Repair at
the Beginning of the said Time; and had been so ever
since the End of the last Dutch War; and that this
Money had been laid out upon repairing the Hulls and
Tackle of the King's Ships, so as was fitting for them
to lie in Harbour, when they were not intended to be
set out to Sea.
That the ordinary Charge of the Navy, in times of
Peace; viz. for Paying of the Navy Board, the Docks
and Yards; and for the Summer and Winter Guard;
was estimated to amount to about 360,000l. per Annum,
besides the Ordnance.
That this was the best Account could be given by
them at present, without examining their Books and
Accounts; which would require much Time: Which
the Committee did not think fit to allow.
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| 167 7/8;, March 7th.
Treasurer of the Ordnance, Debtor, |
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£. |
s. |
d. |
| To Monies then received out of his Majesty's Exchequer, by virtue of his Majesty's Letters of Privy Seal, dated the Sixth of February, 1677/8, in Part of 40,000l. directed to be paid by Warrant for the Right honourable the Lord High Treasurer of England, dated Three-and-twentieth of January, 1677, and advanced by Richard Kent and Charles Duncomb Esquires, as Part of the 200,000l. borrowed by his Majesty upon the Credit of an Act of Parliament, intituled, An Act for an additional Excise upon Beer, Ale, and other Liquors, |
10,000 |
— |
— |
| 1678, June 12th. |
|
To ditto received more out of his Majesty's Exchequer, in full of the said 40,000l. Part of the 200,000l. borrowed as aforesaid |
30,000 |
— |
— |
| Creditor by Balance, |
4,551 |
11 |
4 |
| £. |
44,551 |
11 |
4 |
|
|
Per Contra, Creditor.
By Monies paid, and to be paid, as followeth; viz. |
|
£. |
s. |
d. |
| For the Fortifications at Godsport, near Portsmouth, |
1,000 |
— |
— paid |
| For the Working of 6,579 Barrels of Gunpowder, |
5,921 |
2 |
— |
| For sundry Stores and Provisions of War; and for carrying on divers Works and Fortifications at Sheerness, Portsmouth, Tillbury, Holy Island, &c. |
37,630 |
9 |
4 to be paid. |
| Total,£. |
44,551 |
11 |
4 |
They say, That this Money for Fortifications was laid
out in the Year 1676.
They say, The Ordinary Charge of the Ordnance in
Times of Peace, including both Land and Sea Service,
is estimated to amount to about 72,000l. per Annum.
There was received by the Office of the Ordnance
from the Exchequer, from the First of January 1676 / 7;, to
the last of December 1677, the Sum of 74,200l.
That there was expended in the said time, for Land and
Sea Service, the Sum of 67,880l. 11s. 10d. Farthing.
That at the Beginning of the last Year his Majesty's
Stores were very ill furnished, there being not 4,000
Barrels of Powder at that Time in all the Magazines in
England.
That they could not give a more particular Account,
without searching into their Books and Accounts; which
would take up a great deal of Time: Which the Committee thought not fit to allow.
The Question being put, That it does appear to
the House, that 160,000l. has been borrowed upon the
Credit of the Excise, and expended for the Extraordinary
Use of the Navy;
The House divide.
The Noes go forth.
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Tellers, |
Mr. Progers, |
for the Yeas, |
139. |
| Mr. Spry, |
| Tellers, |
Sir Wm. Hickman, |
for the Noes, |
131. |
| Sir Fr. Drake, |
And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Resolved, &c. That it does appear to this House, that160,000l. has been borrowed upon the Credit of the Excise,and expended for the extraordinary Use of the Navy.
The Question being put, That it does appear tothe House, that there has been 40,000l. borrowed uponthe Credit of the additional Excise, and expended for theextraordinary Use of the Ordnance;
The House divide.
The Noes go forth.
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| Tellers, |
Sir Rob. Kemp, |
for the Noes, |
142. |
| Sir John Mallet, |
| Tellers, |
Sir John Holmes, |
for the Yeas, |
149. |
| Mr. Windham, |
And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Resolved, &c. That it does appear to this House, That
there has been Forty thousand Pounds borrowed, upon
the Credit of the additional Excise; and expended for
the extraordinary Use of the Ordnance.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees, that were to sit this
Afternoon, be adjourned.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Eight of the Clock.