Martis, 18 die Junii, 1678.
Prayers.
Cave's Will.
AN ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An
Act for the better Enabling the Trustees of Sir
Thomas Cave, Knight and Baronet, deceased, for the
Selling of Lands for the Performance of the Will of the
said Sir Thomas Cave; and likewise for the Vesting and
Settling other Lands; was read the First time.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill be read a Second time.
Butter and Cheese Trade.
An ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An
Act for better Encouragement of the Dealers in Butter
and Cheese, was read a Second time.
Resolved, &c. That this Bill be committed to Sir Rob.
Wright, Mr. Crouch, Sir Geo. Downing, Sir Trevor
Williams, Mr. Spry, Sir Edw. Deering, Sir Tho. Doleman,
Sir Rob. Southwell, Mr. Love, Sir Cha. Wheeler, Sir Rich.
Everard, Mr. Cheaney, Sir Court. Poole, Sir John Burkenhead, Sir Fra. Clerke, Captain Jones, Colonel Birch, Sir
Sam. Bernardiston, Sir Tho. Littleton, Mr. Devereux, Mr.
Elliot, Sir Jo. Moreton, Mr. Mallet, Sir Jo. Bramston,
Mr. Packer, Colonel Philipps, Sir Edm. Jennings, Mr.
Onslowe, Mr. Trelawny, Mr. Guy, Mr. May, Sir Tho.
Clerges, Mr. Grenvile, Sir Hen. Ford, Sir Wm. Thompson,
Sir John Hobart, Mr. Daniell, Mr. Papillon, Sir Jo.
Coryton, Sir Jo. Covert, Sir Jo. Holland, Mr. Mainard,
Captain Price, Sir Cirell Wyche, Sir Wm. Blackett, Mr.
Westfaleing, Sir Jo. Nicholas, and all that serve for the
Counties of Cheshire, Lancaster, Suffolk, Somersett, and
Glocester: And all that come are to have Voices: And
they are to meet To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the
Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Ditto.
A Petition of several Cheesemongers of the Cities of
London and Westminster, and the County of Middlesex,
was read.
Resolved, &c. That the said Petition be referred to the
Consideration of the said Committee.
Vale Navigation.
A Bill for making navigable the River Fale, alias Vale,
was read the Third time; and passed.
Removal of Suits.
A Bill to prevent the Removal of Suits from inferior
Courts, was read the Second time.
Resolved, &c. That this Bill be committed to Colonel
Birch, Sir Trevor Williams, Sir Ant. Irby, Sir Jo. Knight,
Sir Sam. Barnardiston, Mr. Buscowen, Sir John Holland,
Sir Tho. Clerges, Sir Jo. Otway, Mr. Foot, Sir Rich. Head,
Sir Jo. Trevor, Sir Tho. Meres, Sir Hen. Ford, Sir Geo.
Downing, Mr. Spry, Mr. Wyn, Mr. Love, Sir Wm. Lowther, Sir Jeof. Shakerly, Lord Ancram, Mr. Treby, Sir
Edw. Deering, Lord Cavendish, Sir Tho. Lee, Sir Edm.
Jennings, Sir Tho. Littleton: And they are to meet Tomorrow, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the
Speaker's Chamber.
Burying in Woollen.
Sir George Downing reports from the Committee to
whom the Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An Act
for burying in Woollen, was committed, several Amendments, agreed by the Committee to be made to the Bill:
Which he read in his Place, and afterwards delivered the
same in at the Clerk's Table.
Message to attend the King.
A Message from the King, by Sir Edward Carteret,
Usher of the Black Rod;
Mr. Speaker,
The King commands this honourable House to attend
him immediately, in the House of Lords.
And accordingly Mr. Speaker, with the House, went
up to attend His Majesty.
And the House being returned;
The King's Speech reported.
Mr. Speaker reports, That his Majesty was pleased to
make Use of his Paper: And that he might not either
misreport or misrepeat Him, he had obtained a Copy of it:
Which he read to the House; and is as followeth; viz.
My Lords and Gentlemen,
I Know very well, that the Season of the Year requires
this Session should be short; and that, both for My
Health, and your Occasions, we may all have Liberty to
go into the Country, by the Middle of the next Month, at
furthest. I think it a Matter of yet more Importance,
that we part, not only fairly, but kindly too, and in perfect
Confidence one of another; since nothing else can render
us either safe and easy at home, or considered so far
abroad as this Crown has ever been, and is now more
necessary than ever, both for the Safety of Christendom,
and our own: Therefore I shall at this Time open My
Heart freely to you, in some Points that nearest concern
both you and Me; and hope you will consider them so;
because I am sure our Interests ought not to be divided;
and for Me, they never shall.
I told you at the Opening of this Session, how violently
Things abroad were driving on towards a Peace; and that
I could not tell where they would end; but that I was
resolved to save Flanders, either by a War, or Peace; in
which I am still fixed, as in the greatest foreign Interest of
this Nation. I must now tell you, That Things seem already to have determined in a Peace, at least as to Spaine
and Holland, who have so far accepted the Terms offered
by France, that My Ambassador at Nimeguen writes Me
Word, he expected to be called upon, to sign by the last
of this Month. My Part in it will be, not only of a Mediator, but to give my Guarantee to it; which the Consederates will call upon Me for, and I am resolved to give in
the strongest Manner they themselves will desire, and I am
able. How far this will go, I cannot tell; but they send
Me Word already, That unless England and Holland will
both join in the Charge of maintaining Flanders, even after
the Peace, the Spaniards will not be in a Condition of supporting it alone, and must fall into other Measures: On
the other Side, they think France will be left so great, that
nothing abroad can treat with them hereafter upon an equal
Foot, without the Hopes of being supported by this
Crown: And to this End I am sure it will be necessary,
not only to keep our Navies constantly strong at Sea, but
to leave the World in some Assurance of our being well
united at home; and thereby in as great an Opinion of
our Conduct hereafter, as they are already of our Force.
Upon this Occasion I cannot but say, That though after our joint Resolutions of a War, and the Supplies you
have given towards it, you may think the Peace an ill Bargain, because it will cost you Money; yet perhaps you will
not believe it so, if you consider, that by it so great a
Part of Flanders is like to be saved; whereas without the
Paces We made towards War, there is nothing so certain
as that the Whole of it would have been absolutely lost this
Campaign, if not by this very Time: And I believe you
would give much greater Sums than this will cost you,
rather than the single Town of Ostend should be in the
French Hands, and Forty of their Men of War in so good
a Haven, over against the River's Mouth: Besides, both
you and I, (as we are true Englishmen) cannot but be
pleased, and understand the Importance of that Reputation
we have gained abroad, by having in Forty Days raised
an Army of near Thirty thousand Men, and prepared . . .
Navy and Ninety Ships; which would have been now
ready at Sea, if we had gone into a War.
Now, my Lords and Gentlemen, I know, that in so
great Conjunctures you desire I should keep the Honour
of my Crowns, and look to your Safety by some Balance
in the Affairs abroad; and I should be very glad I were
able to do it: But I do not see how it will be possible for
Me, even in a Time of Peace, with a Revenue so impaired
as Mine is, by My Debts long since contracted, and the
present Anticipations; and, at the best, so disproportioned,
not only to that of the Kings My Neighbours, but even
to that of the United Provinces themselves, though of no
larger Extent than Two or Three of our Counties;
Therefore, as I said I would open my Heart freely to you,
so I must tell you, That if you would see Me able in any
kind to influence the great Conjunctures abroad, wherein
the Honour and Safety of the Nation are so much concerned, and wherein the Turns are sometimes so short as
not to give me Leave to call in time, either for your Advice or Assistances; if you would have Me able but to
pursue such a War as this of Algiers, with Honour; and
at the same Time keep such Fleets about our own Coasts,
as may give our Neighbours the Respect for us that has
been always paid this Crown; if you would have Me pass
any Part of My Life in Ease or Quiet, and all the rest of
it in perfect Confidence and Kindness with you and all
succeeding Parliaments, you must find a Way of settling
for my Life, not only My Revenue, and the additional
Duties, as they were at Christmas last; but of adding to
them, upon some new Funds, Three hundred thousand
Pounds a Year: Upon which I shall consent, that an Act
may pass, for appropriating Five hundred thousand
Pounds a Year to the constant Maintenance of the Navy
and Ordnance; which I take to be the greatest Safety and
Interest of these Kingdoms: And I will at the same time,
as I do now, assure you, that I shall not only this, or any
other Session of Parliament, consent to such reasonable
and publick Bills as you shall offer Me; but shall employ
my whole Life to advance the true and publick Good and
Safety of My People; and endeavour, while I live, that
none else shall ever be able to do them Harm.
I did not in My last Speech mention the Forty thousand
Pounds I am engaged to pay the Prince of Orange, for
My Niece's Portion, because I had recommended it to you
so lately before: But the First Payment being already
due, and demanded by him, I must again put you in
mind of it, and desire you will enable me to keep My
Word with him.
Thanks for Speech.
Ordered, That the Thanks of this House be returned
to his Majesty, for his gracious Expressions in his Speech.
Ordered, That such Members of this House as are of
his Majesty's Privy Council, do present the Thanks of
this House to his Majesty accordingly.
Supply.
A Motion being made, For raising Three hundred
thousand Pounds per Annum, for an additional Revenue
to his Majesty.
The Question being propounded, That the House will
resolve into a Committee of the whole House, to consider
of the Motion for raising of Three hundred thousand
Pounds per Annum, for an additional Revenue to his
Majesty.
The Question being put, That the Question be now put;
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
The Question being put, That the House will resolve
into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the
Motion for Raising of Three hundred thousand Pounds
per Annum, for an additional Revenue to his Majesty;
It passed in the Negative.
A Motion being made, That the new Imposts upon
Wines and Vinegar may be continued to his Majesty:
Resolved, &c. That the House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House;
to consider of the Motion for continuing the new Impost
upon Wines and Vinegar.
Ways and Means.
Resolved, &c. That this House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House,
to consider of the Manner of raising a Supply, for Repayment of the Two hundred thousand Pounds, borrowed upon the Credit of the Additional Excise; and
for paying off the extraordinary Charge of the Navy.
A Motion being made, For Forty thousand Pounds,
to be given to his Majesty for paying the Portion of his
Niece;
Resolved, &c. That the House will resolve itself into
Committee of the whole House, To-morrow, to consider
of the Motion for giving to his Majesty Forty thousand
Pounds for paying of the Portion of his Niece.
A Motion being made, for a Compensation to be given
to his Majesty, for the Clause of Prohibition of the French
Commodities;
The Question being put, That the House will resolve
into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the
Motion for a Compensation to be given to his Majesty,
for the Clause of Prohibition of French Commodities;
The House divide.
The Yeas go forth.
|
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Tellers, |
Sir Robert Southwell, |
for the Yeas, |
145. |
| Sir Tho. Doleman, |
| Tellers, |
Sir Eliab Harvey, |
for the Noes, |
202. |
| Mr. Tregonwell, |
And so it passed in the Negative.
Pensions, Secret Service, &c.
A Debate arising in the House upon several Heads;
viz. To have an Account, of what Pensions have been
charged upon the Revenue; and what Privy Seals have
issued for Secret Service, since May 1677: And for a Test
concerning Bribery of Members for giving their Votes:
And concerning Popery and taking the Sacrament: And
concerning conversing with foreign Ministers, and receiving Money from them: And concerning such as have received any Money, as Counsel for any Bill depending in
the House; or any Reward for being Chairman of a
Committee: And concerning such as have solicited for
Voices, in any Cause depending before this House: And
concerning such as have offered their Service to great
Persons, to give their Votes in Parliament, and have
been refused: And concerning such as keep publick
Tables: And concerning such as have taken Money for
granting Protections:
The Question being put, That the Debate be adjourned;
The House divide:
The Yeas go forth.
|
|
Tellers, |
Sir John Elwes, |
for the Noes, |
173. |
| Colonel Birch, |
| Tellers, |
Colonel Strode, |
for the Yeas, |
103. |
| Mr. Wright, |
And so it passed in the Negative.
Resolved, &c. That an Account be taken, of what Pensions have been charged upon the Revenue; and what
Privy Seals have issued for Secret Service, since May 1677:
And that there be a Test concerning Bribery of Members
for giving their Votes: And concerning Popery, and
taking the Sacrament: And concerning conversing with
foreign Ministers, or transacting with them, in relation to
the Proceedings of this House; and receiving Money
from them: And concerning such as have received any
Money as Counsel for any Bill depending in the House,
or any Reward for being Chairman of a Committee:
And concerning such as have solicited for Voices, in any
Cause depending before the House: And concerning
such as have offered their Service to great Persons to
give their Vote in Parliament, and have been refused:
And concerning such as keep publick Tables; and at
whose Charge: And concerning such as have taken
Money for granting Protections: And that Inquiry be
made, how many Members are outlawed, as well before
as after Judgment: And that there be an Inquiry made
of such Members as have gone to Conventicles or Mass.
The Question being put, That a Committee be appointed, to whom the Consideration of the Matters contained in the said Order may be referred;
The House divide.
The Yeas go forth.
|
|
Tellers, |
Sir Arthur Harris, |
for the Yeas, |
86. |
| Sir Mich. Wharton, |
| Tellers, |
Sir John Pettus, |
for the Noes, |
100. |
| Sir John Barnaby, |
And so it passed in the Negative.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Eight of the Clock.