House of Commons Journal Volume 9
25 June 1678

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 9: 25 June 1678', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 9: 1667-1687 (1802), pp. 504-505. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=27648 Date accessed: 24 October 2014.


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Martis, 25 die Junii, 1678.

Prayers.

Cave's Will.

MR. Crouch reports from the Committee to whom the Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the better Enabling the Trustees of Sir Thomas Cave Knight and Baronet, deceased, for the Settling of Lands for the Performance of the Will of the said Sir Thomas Cave, and likewise for the Vesting and Settling of other Lands, was committed, That the Committee had carefully perused the Bill; and heard all Parties concerned therein; who were consenting thereto: And that the Committee had returned the Bill, without any Amendment.

Sowing Hemp and Flax.

A Bill for Encouragement of the Sowing of Hemp and Flax, was read the Second time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be committed to Sir Tho. Higgins, Sir Lan. Lake, Serjeant Seis, Sir John Knight, Sir Rob. Holmes, Serjeant Rigby, Mr. Westfaling, Serjeant Gregory, Sir Gilbert Talbot, Mr. Packer, Mr. Spry, Sir Trevor Williams, Sir John Frederick, Sir Wm. Coventry, Sir John Brampston, Mr. Papillon, Mr. Buscawen, Sir John Barnaby, Sir Geo. Shakerly, Col. Sandys, Mr. Burlace, Mr. Browne, Sir John Trevor, Sir Anth. Irby, Col. Birch, Sir Hen. Ford, Mr. Pepis, Alderman Love, Mr. Mainard: And all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon in the Speaker's Chamber.

Highways.

An ingrossed Bill for repealing a Clause in the Act concerning Highways, was read the Third time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for repealing a Clause in a former Act, intituled, An Act for Inlarging and Repairing of common Highways: And that Sir George Downing do carry up the Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.

St. Martin's in the Fields Church.

An ingrossed Bill for making a new Parish in the Parish of St. Martin's in the Fields, was read a Third time.

And some Amendments were made at the Table.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for making Part of the Parish of St. Martin's in the Fields a new Parish; to be called the Parish of St. Ann, within the Liberty of Westminster: And that Sir Geo. Downing do carry up the Bill to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Lords Amendments to Supply Bill.

Sir Richard Temple reports from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be offered at a Conference to be had with the Lords, for not agreeing with the Lords in their Amendments to the Bill, intituled, Act for granting a Supply to his Majesty, for enabling him to pay and disband the Forces which have been raised since the Twenty-ninth of September last, That the Committee had agreed upon Reasons to be offered at a Conference; and upon a Proviso to be added to the said Bill: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: And the Reasons, being twice read, were, upon the Question, agreed: And are as followeth;

The Lords having agreed with the Commons in this Bill; That there is no further Occasion of the Forces raised since the Twenty-ninth Day of September last; and sent to the Commons some Amendments; the Commons find themselves obliged to disagree with the Lords Amendments, by reason of the Methods and Rights of their House, in a Matter very tender to them: But, for answering the End which the Lords seem to aim at, the Commons will offer an Expedient; which they conceive warranted by Precedents; viz.

The Earl of Thanet's Bill, entered into the Lords Journal, February, 74: Which the Lords then grounded upon a Precedent in 35 of Queen Elizabeth: In both which Provisoes were added by the Lords after the Bill sent from the Lords to the Commons, not relating to any Amendments made by the Commons.

The Proviso being twice read;

Resolved, &c. That the Proviso be ingrossed.

Conference with Lords.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords upon the Amendments made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act for granting a Supply to his Majesty, for enabling him to pay and disband the Forces which have been raised since the Twenty-ninth of September last: And that Sir Richard Temple do go up to the Lords, to desire the Conference.

Sir Richard Temple acquaints the House, That the Lords had agreed to a present Conference in the Painted Chamber.

The Proviso, being ingrossed, was read the Third time.

Resolved, &c. That the Proviso be added to the Bill.

Ordered, That the Persons who were appointed to draw up the Reasons, do attend, and manage the Conference.

Who did attend; and offered the Reasons; and left the Proviso and Bill with the Lords.

French Commodities.

An explanatory Bill touching the Prohibiting French Commodities, was read the First time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be read a Second time.

Ways and Means.

The House then resolved into a Committee of the whole House, to proceed further in the Consideration of the Manner of raising a Supply not exceeding Four hundred and Fourteen thousand Pounds, for paying off the extraordinary Charge of the Navy and Ordnance; and for paying the Princess of Orange's Portion; and for the Re-payment of the Two hundred thousand Pounds, borrowed upon the Credit of the additional Excise.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Sir John Trevor took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir John Trevor reports from the said Committee, That they had taken the Matter into Consideration; and had agreed upon a Vote: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth;

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Two hundred thousand Pounds shall be laid upon all Buildings, which since the Year One thousand Six hundred and Fifty-six have been erected upon new Foundations, within Ten Miles without the City of London.

The Question being put, To agree with the Committee;

The House divide.

The Noes go forth.

Tellers, Mr. Neale, for the Noes, 117.
Capt. Howard,
Tellers, Sir Hen. Ford, for the Yeas, 88.
Mr. Walker,

And so it passed in the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the House do now resolve into a Committee of the whole House, to proceed further in the Consideration of the Manner of raising a Supply, not exceeding Four hundred Fourteen thousand Pounds, for paying off the extraordinary Charge of the Navy and Ordnance; and for paying the Princess of Orange's Portion; and for Re-payment of Two hundred thousand Pounds, borrowed upon the Credit of the additional Excise.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Sir John Trevor took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir John Trevor reports from the said Committee, That they had taken the Matter into Consideration; and agreed upon a Vote: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth.

Resolved, &c. That the Supply, not exceeding the Sum of Four hundred and Fourteen thousand Pounds, shall be raised by the old Way of Subsidy.

A Debate arising about agreeing with the Committee;

The Question being put, That the Debate be adjourned.

The House divide.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers, Sir Arthur Harris, for the Yeas, 74.
Mr. Collingwood,
Tellers, Sir John Talbot, for the Noes, 71.
Mr. Wright,

And so it was resolved in the Affirmative.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.