Sabbati, 23 die Novembris, 1678.
Prayers.
Militia.
A BILL for raising the Militia of England was read
the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time on
Monday Morning.
State of the Army.
Resolved, That this House will, on Monday Morning,
take into Consideration the State of the Nation, in relation to the Army.
Conference on Address for raising the Militia.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Timothy Baldwyn
and Sir Samuel Clerke;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords desire a present Conference
with this House, in the Painted Chamber, about the
Address, sent from this House, concerning the Raising
of the Militia.
The Messengers being withdrawn;
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree to meet the
Lords at a present Conference in the Painted Chamber.
The Messengers been called in; Mr. Speaker acquaints
them, That this House had agreed to a present Conference.
Ordered, That the Members, who drew up the Address,
do attend and manage the Conference.
Mr. Powle reports from the Conference, That my
Lord Privy Seal managed the Conference: And that he
acquainted them, That the Lords upon Perusal of the
Address, appointed a Committee to consider of the Laws
relating to the Militia: Who reported, That, upon Inspection of the Statutes they found, That, without further
Authority, the Militia cannot be kept up above Twelve
Days in One Year, and thereof Four Days to be for
principal Musters, and Two, and Two, and Two, and
Two; viz. Eight Days, for particular Musters; And
that, of these Twelve Days, in many Counties the Lieutenants have already mustered their Men some of those
Days, in this present Year: Not but that, by his Majesty's
Direction (as appears by the Statute), they may be kept
up longer: But their Lordships do not find, that there is
any Power to raise Money to pay them.
Answer to Addresses.
Mr. Secretary Coventry acquaints the House, That
his Majesty had been attended with the Address of this
House, concerning Mr. Bedlow's Pardon: And that his
Majesty had signed the Warrant for mending the same:
And that his Majesty had likewise been attended with
the Address of this House, to desire his Majesty, That
such Papers, relating to the Plot, as had not been perused
by this House, may be communicated to this House:
And that his Majesty had granted the same; and had
given Order to my Lord Chancellor to call for the Papers
back from the Lords, so soon as they had perused them.
And further acquainted the House, That his Majesty
was pleased to return Answer, in Writing, to the Address
of this House, concerning Mr. Secretary Williamson:
Which was delivered to Mr. Speaker; and by him read
to the House: And is as followeth; viz.
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HIS Majesty, having received an Address the Nineteenth Instant, from this House, is pleased to return this
Answer:
That He released Mr. Secretary Williamson several
Hours before your Address came; as He told you in
the Banqueting House, he would do.
As to the Reasons of granting those Commissions, His
Majesty acquainted you at large with them, in his Speech,
when you last attended Him: But, in Answer to your
present Address, His Majesty promiseth to recall all
Commissions whatsoever, given to Papists, or reputed
Papists, either in England or Ireland, immediately: And
for His remoter Dominions, they shall be likewise recalled, with all the Expedition the Safety of those Places
will permit.
Answer concerning Mr. Sec. Williamson.
Resolved, &c. That this House will, on Thursday next,
take into Consideration his Majesty's Answer to the Address of this House, concerning Mr. Secretary Williamson.
Reasons against Lords Amendments to Bill disabling Papists.
Sir Edward Deering reports from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be offered at a Conference
to be had with the Lords, Why this House does not agree
with the Lords in the Second and Third Amendments
made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act for the
more effectual Preserving the King's Person and Government, by disabling Papists from sitting in either House
of Parliament, Reasons agreed upon by the Committee:
Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered
the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same
were twice read; and, with some Amendments made
at the Table, upon the Question agreed; and are as
followeth; viz.
That both Houses having declared by their Vote,
That the King's Person is in Danger at this time from
Popish Conspiracies, it would not only be most dangerous
to his Majesty's Person, but inconsistent with such a
Declaration, to admit any Popish Recusants to have a
Residence in his Palace, and such familiar Access unto
his Majesty's Presence.
That all Popish Recusants being, by his Majesty's
Proclamation, issued at the Desire of both Houses, required to depart Ten Miles from the Cities of London
and Westminster, we cannot think it adviseable to admit
them now to continue and settle in his Majesty's Houses,
where they may be much more dangerous than in any
other Place.
That, the Design of this Act being for a further Security against all Popish Recusants, the Commons cannot
think it reasonable to allow any of them Liberty, contrary
to the Laws already in being: Your Lordships Amendments, by general Words, excepting such a Number of
the Queen's and Royal Highnesses Servants out of the
Act; it will follow, That, if any Peer of this Kingdom,
or Member of the House of Commons, be so nominated
by them, they will thereby be still capable of sitting in
the House of Peers, or House of Commons, without
taking the Oaths or Test.
Conference desired with Lords.
Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the
Lords, upon the Amendments made by the Lords to the
Bill, intituled, An Act for the more effectual Preserving
the King's Person and Government, by disabling Papists
from sitting in either House of Parliament: And that Sir
Edmund Jenings do desire the Conference.
Lists of Papists.
Resolved, &c. That the Knights of the Shire do, on
Tuesday next come Sevennight, bring in a List of all
Persons of Note, being Popish Recusants, or so reputed,
resident, or having a considerable Estate, within their
respective Counties: And that the Knights, Citizens, and
Burgesses, who serve for each County, do meet together;
and agree, and prepare such Lists; and sign the same.
Call of the House.
Resolved, &c. That the House be called over on
Monday next come Sevennight: And that no Member
do depart the Service of the House, without Leave First
asked and obtained, after Ten of the Clock.
Conference with Lords.
Sir Edmund Jennings acquaints the House, That the
Lords have agreed to a present Conference in the Painted
Chamber.
Resolved, &c. That the Members, who did prepare the
Reasons, do attend, and manage the Conference.
And they did accordingly attend the Conference; and
delivered their Reasons: And left the Bill with the Lords.
Persons to render themselves to Justice.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Sam. Clerke and
Sir John Hoskins;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to attend you with a Bill, intituled, An Act requiring the
Persons therein named to render themselves to Justice;
and, in default thereof, to attaint them of High Treason:
To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Absent Members summoned.
Resolved, Whereas the House of Commons taking
Notice of the absence of several of their Members, That
Letters be sent to the Sheriff of each County to summon
the Knights of the Shire, who do serve for their respective
Counties, to give their Attendance on the Service of the
House; as likewise, to send to the several and respective
Cities and Boroughs within their Counties, to summon
the Members, who do represent their Corporations, to
give their Attendance on the Service of the House.
Persons to render themselves to Justice.
An ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An
Act requiring the Persons therein named, to render
themselves to Justice; and, in Default thereof, to attaint
them of High Treason; was read the First time.
Resolved, &c. That the Bill be read a Second time.
Conference on Bill disabling Papists.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Samuel Clerke and
Sir John Hoskins;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords desire a present Conference
with this House in the Painted Chamber, upon the
Subject Matter of the last Conference.
The Messengers being withdrawn;
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree to meet
the Lords at a present Conference.
The Messengers being called in; Mr. Speaker acquaints
them, That the House had agreed to meet the Lords at a
present Conference.
Resolved, That the Persons, who did manage the last
Conference, do attend this Conference.
Sir Edward Deering reports, that the Persons appointed
had attended the Conference: Which was managed by
my Lord Chancellor: Who acquainted them, that the
Lords had considered of the Reasons offered at the last
Conference; and that they carried great weight with
them: And that the Lords did propose an Expedient,
which was, for striking the Queen wholly out of the
Bill, and so leave her Servants liable to the Law in
general; in which they hoped this House would concur:
But if this House should not think . . . to concur with
the Lords in this Expedient, that then their Lordships
would take the Amendments and Reasons into further
Consideration.
That my Lord Privy Seal told them, There were
Precedents in the Case; but did not name any.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth not agree with the
Lords in the said Expedient.
Resolved, That the Persons who did attend the Conference, do prepare Reasons to be offered at a Conference, Why this House cannot agree to the Expedient
proposed by the Lords.
Petition irregularly signed rejected.
A Petition, on the behalf of Sir Wm. Temple Baronet,
was presented to be read.
But it appearing upon the Debate of the House, That
the said Petition was not signed by Sir Wm. Temple, nor
any Persons on behalf of the Borough of Northampton;
The Question being put, Whether the said Petition
should be read;
It passed in the Negative.
Murders and Assaults.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee appointed to examine concerning the murder of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey,
do examine concerning the frequent Murders and Assaults
which have been lately committed; and to consider of
Remedies to prevent the like; and to report their
Opinions to the House.
Danger from Popery.
Resolved, &c. That this House will, on Tuesday Morning, resolve into a Committee of the whole House,
further to consider of Remedies to secure the Protestant
Religion against the Danger of Popery.
And then the House adjourned till Monday
Morning, Eight of the Clock.