Martis, 16 die Aprilis; 1° Willielmi et Mariæ.
MR. Foley reports from the Committee, to whom
the Bill to enable Younger Cooke, Esquire, to sell
Lands for Payment of his Debts, and make Provision for
his younger Children, was referred, That the Committee
had thought fit to make several Amendments to the Bill:
Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered
the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were
once read throughout; and a Second time, one by one;
and agreed unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Sir Nicholas Baynton have Leave to go
into the Country, for a Fortnight, for his Health.
Ordered, That the Committee, to whom it is referred
to consider of a Way to relieve the French Protestant
Ministers, and such others, as are incapable to maintain
themselves otherwise than by Charity, who are fled out
of France for their Religion, have Power to send for
Persons, Papers, and Records.
Duty on Tobacco.
A Petition of divers Planters of Virginia and Maryland,
in Behalf of themselves and all the Planters there, complaining of the Burden laid upon Tobacco by the new
Impost, by the Act of Parliament in the First Year of
King James the Second; and that thereby most of the
Planters are impoverished; was read.
Resolved, That the Petition do lie upon the Table;
to be considered, when the publick Revenue comes under
the Consideration of the House.
Sir Jos. Tredenham reports from the Committee, to
whom the Bill, that the Simony of one Person may not
prejudice another, was referred, That the Committee had
thought fit to make several Amendments to the same:
Which he read in his Place; and after delivered the
same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were
Once read throughout; and afterwards, a Second time,
one by one; and, upon the Question severally put
thereupon, agreed unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill with the Amendments, be
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Sir John Rowse have Leave to go into
the Country, for a Fortnight.
A Bill for explaining and making effectual an Act of
the First Year of King James the Second, touching the
Haven and Pier of Great Yarmouth, was read the Second
Ordered, That the Bill be ingrossed.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter of the Election
of Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament for the
Town of Buckingham was referred, the State of the Fact,
as it appeared to the Committee: Which he produced
in Writing: Which, being read at the Table, is as
Upon the Petition of Sir Peter Tyrrell, Baronet, and
Rich. Atkins, Esquire, against Sir Rich. Temple and
Sir Ralph Verney, touching the Election of Bucks,
being heard the * Day of April 1689.
That the Petitioners Counsel insisted upon this Point;
Whether there was due Notice given of the Time of the
Election; which was the only Point insisted upon in the
Petition; and put the Proof thereof to the Sitting
The Counsel for the Sitting Members, in the first place,
insisted, That the Petitioners had not intitled themselves,
by their Petition, to question the Election, having not thereby so much as alledged, that they were either Electors
or Elected, or Candidates for the said Election; and that
therefore prayed, that the Petition might be dismissed:
And after some Debate; and the Counsel withdrew;
the Committee came to no Resolution upon that particular Point: But called in both Sides; and directed
them to proceed on the Point of Notice, in Order to have
the whole Matter before them.
That the Counsel on the Behalf of the Sitting Members
produced, to prove the said Notice,
John Upston, the Under Bailiff: Who testified, That the
Bailiff, having received the Prince's Letter, about Nine or
Ten a Clock, on Saturday the Fifth of January, gave him
Order to go to the respective Houses of the Twelve Capital
Burgesses, (by whom Elections of Members for Parliament
had always been made) on Sunday after Evening Prayer,
to give them Notice to meet him on Wednesday following, at Ten of the Clock in the Morning, at the Town
Hall, to elect Two Burgesses for the Convention; and
that they should also meet him the next Morning, being
Monday, in the Town Hall: Which Notice, on Sunday,
after Prayer, he accordingly gave; and spake with Ten
of the said Burgesses themselves at their Houses; and
left the like Notice at the other Two Burgesses Houses,
viz. with the Wife of Mr. Henry Robinson; and the Servant of Mr. Mason: And that this had been the constant
and usual Way of giving Notice for Election to Parliaments in all his Time; having been, ever since the Restoration of King Charles the Second, Under Bailiff there.
And being further asked, Whether it was not the Custom
to leave Notice in Writing; he declared, that it was
always left by Word of Mouth, with themselves, or some
of their Family; and not otherwise: And further said;
that all the Thirteen did accordingly meet at the Hall on
Monday Morning; and also on Wednesday Morning, when
the Election was made: And that Twelve of them gave
their Voices for Sir Rich. Temple and Sir Ralph Verney.
Hugh Ethersey, Gentleman said, That he has been
Bailiff; and made Three Returns of Burgesses to Parliament; and never gave any Notice but by the Under
Bailiff, to the Twelve Capital Burgesses and to no other,
at their own Houses, by Word of Mouth to themselves, or
some of their Families in their Absence: And that this,
he knows, has been the constant Manner of giving Notice
for Elections for this Forty Years last past: And that the
First Claim by the Populacy that ever he heard of, was
at the Election of the Parliament that restored King
Charles the Second, when he was Bailiff; which was set
on Foot by Mr. Ingrosby; and was adjudged against them
by that Parliament.
William Atton, Gentleman, That he was heretofore an
ancient Capital Burgess for Bucks, and his Father and
Grandfather before him; and had been Bailiff of the said
Town; and knows, that, for above Forty Years last past,
that the constant Manner of giving Notice to Elections
of Parliament Men was by the Under Bailiff, by Word of
Mouth, to the Twelve Capital Burgesses at their own
Houses; and, in their Absence, to some of their Families;
and he never knew, nor heard, of Notice given in any
Henry Robinson, Gentleman: That the Petitioners
produced One Witness, viz.
Henry Robinson: Who said, He is One of the Capital
Burgesses; and that his Wife informed him, that the
Under Bailiff, on Sunday in the Evening, had left Notice
that the Bailiff desired him to meet on Monday Morning,
at the Hall; but upon what Account he knew not; nor
did she tell him of the Meeting on Wednesday for the
Election: And that he met on Monday, with the rest of
the Thirteen, at the Town Hall; where the Bailiff told
him, that he had ordered the Under Bailiff, the Day
before, being Sunday, to give them all Notice, to make the
Election of Burgesses, for the Convention, on Wednesday
following: And further said, he did not hear the Prince's
Letter read; and that, if it was read, it was read before
he came to the Hall.
And that he was present at the Election on Wednesday,
with the Bailiff and the rest of the Burgesses, and voted
for Sir Peter Tyrrell and Mr. Atkins.
Upon the whole Matter, the Committee came to a
Resolution: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards
delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the
same being read, is as followeth:
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Sir Rich. Temple and Sir Ralph Verney were duly
chosen Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament for
the Town of Bucks.
The said Resolve being read a Second Time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That Sir Rich. Temple and Sir Ralph Verney were
duly chosen Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament
for the Town of Bucks.
Commissioners of Great Seal to execute Lord Chancellorship.
An ingrossed Bill, sent down from the Lords, intituled,
An Act for enabling Lords Commissioners for the Great
Seal to execute the Office of Lord Chancellor, and Lord
Keeper of the Great Seal of England, was read the
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Dalben,
Sir Robert Sawyer, Sir Robert Clayton, Sir Jos. Tredenham,
Mr. Christy, Sir Fra. Russell, Sir Tho. Littleton, Mr. Carter,
Sir Wm. Williams, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Leveson Gowre, Mr.
Lampton, Marquis Worcester, Sir John Wynn, Lord Sherrard, Sir Rob. Nappier, Mr. Sacheverell, Sir Wm. Cooper,
Serjeant Bigland, Mr. Hamden, Sir Ralph Dutton, Colonel
Birch, Mr. Montague, Mr. Tho. Foley, Mr. Whitehead, Lord
Commissioner Maynard, Mr. Somers, Mr. England, Sir
Walter Young, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Blake, and all the Members
that are of the Long Robe: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Advance on Credit of Act for an Aid.
Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to consider
why no more Money is advanced upon the Credit of the
Act lately passed, for granting a present Aid to their
And it is referred to Mr. Levison Gowre, Sir John Thomson, Sir Tho. Dyke, Mr. Buscawen, Lord Falkland, Mr.
Ellwell, Mr. Carter, Colonel Birch, Mr. Done, Mr. Jepson, Mr. Lampton, Sir Rich Onslow, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Sir
Tho. Pope Blunt, Lord Digby, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Mr.
Russel, Sir Cha. Raleigh, Sir Fra. Russell, Sir Wm. Williams,
Sir Rob. Clayton, Sir Rich. Middleton, Marquis Winchester,
Mr. Gwynn, Sir Roger Twisden, Mr. Finch, Mr. P. Foley,
Sir John Cutler, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Marquis Worcester, Sir Hen. Capell, Mr. Johnson, Sir Tho. Mompesson,
Mr. Papillion, Mr. Smith, Mr. Howe, Mr. Palmes, Sir
Edw. Harley, Mr. Roberts, Mr. Hamden, Mr. Tho. Foley,
Mr. Montague, Sir Scroop Howe, Mr. Windham, Mr. Harbord, Mr. H. Herbert, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Whitehead:
And they are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, at
Four of the Clock, in the Duchy Chamber; and to make
Report to the House with all convenient Speed.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cooke and
Mr. Speaker, We are commanded by the Lords, to
acquaint this House, That the Lords desire a present
Conference with the House in the Painted Chamber,
upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
Resolved, That this House doth agree to a present
Conference, with the Lords, as is desired.
And the Messengers being called in again;
Mr. Speaker acquainted them therewith.
Resolved, That the Members that managed the last
Conference, do manage this Conference.
Ordered, That Mr. Sacheverell be added to the
And then the Managers went to the Conference with
the Lords: And being returned,
Sir Jos. Tredenham reports from the Conference, That
the Earl of Rochester managed the Conference, on the
Part of the Lords, and said, They desired such Conference,
that they might continue a good Correspondence with the
Commons: But that they insisted on their own Proviso
in the Bill relating to the Queen Dowager; and did not
agree to the Clause sent up by this House to them: However, for an Expedient, proposed a new Clause instead of
"Provided also, That the Queen Dowager may retain
in her Family so many Popish Servants of the King's
Subjects, as her Majesty shall think fit, not exceeding
the Number of Thirty; so as none of the said Servants
be a Priest, Monk, or Frier; any Law or Statute to the
And a Debate arising upon the said Report;
Resolved, That the Debate be adjourned until Tomorrow Morning.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Mr. Freke the elder, Knight of the
Shire for the County of Dorsett, have Leave to go into
the Country, for a Fortnight.
Proceedings of late King James in Ireland.
The House being informed, that one Mr. Bazill
Purefoy, and Mr. Wm. Dalton, are lately come out of
Ireland; and attended at the Door; and could give a
further Account relating to the Affairs there;
Resolved, That they be called in.
And they came in accordingly; and gave an Account
that King James came into Dublin on Palme Sunday; and
that the Lord Powis, and Lord Thomas Howard, and Lord
Melford were with him; and several great Men of France;
and that they brought great Sums of Money, and Arms
and Ammunition; and were marched with great Force
towards the North: And also acquainted the House with
several other Matters relating to Ireland.
And then they withdrew.
State of the Kingdom in relation to France.
The House then, according to the Order of Yesterday
resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to
take into Consideration the State of the Kingdom in
relation to France, and our Alliances abroad.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
Mr. Hamden took the Chair of the Committee.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Mr. Hamden reports from the Committee of the whole
House, That they, having taken the Matters aforesaid
into their Consideration, had agreed upon a Resolve,
which they had directed him to report to the House:
And he read the same in his Place; and afterwards
delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the
same being read, is as followeth;
Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That it is the Opinion
of this Committee, That, by Address, upon the present
Debate, it be humbly represented to his Majesty, that if
he shall think fit to enter into a War against France, the
House will give him all such Assistance, in a Parliamentary Way, as shall enable him to support and go through
The said Resolve being read a Second time;
Address as to War with France.
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That, by Address, upon the present Debate, it be
humbly represented to his Majesty, that, if he shall think
fit to enter into a War against France, the House will
give him all such Assistance, in a Parliamentary Way, as
shall enable him to support and go through the same.
Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to prepare
the said Address.
And it is referred unto Mr. Hamden, Sir Rob. Howard
Lord Falkland, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Sir Jos.
Tredenham, Sir Hen. Capell, Mr. Garway, Mr. Ellwell, Mr.
Finch, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Rich. Temple,
Sir Pat. Ward, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Sir Thomas Clarges, Sir
Geo. Treby, Colonel Birch, Mr. Harbord, Mr. Smith, Sir
John Thomson, Mr. Papillion, Mr. Montague, Mr. Leveson
Gowre, Mr. Boscawen, Lord Digby, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Ralph
Dutton, or any Five of them, to prepare the said Address:
And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the
Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber; and to present the said
Address to the House with all convenient Speed.
Lords Amendments to Address.
A Message from the Lords by Sir Miles Cooke and
Mr. Speaker, We are commanded by the Lords to
acquaint this House, That they have agreed to the Address sent up from this House, with some Amendments;
to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
And the said Amendments were read; and are as followeth:
Amendments to the Commons Address, sent up the
15th April, 1689.
The first Paragraph agreed to, with filling the Blank
with "Lords Spiritual and Temporal,"
L. 8, instead of "its," read "her."
L. 10, leave out from "Person" to "We," in the
17th L.; and, instead thereof, read, "and her Zeal against
Popery having appeared at all Times, and more especially
of late, beyond the Contradiction of her most malicious
Enemies. It being likewise evident, that her Loyalty
hath always been unquestionable; and that the Misfortunes of the last Reign can be attributed to nothing more,
than the Endeavours that were used to subvert it."
L. 26. after "Writs," add, "as soon as conveniently
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords
in their Amendments to the said Address.
Ordered, That Mr. Done do go up to the Lords, and
acquaint them, that this House doth agree to the said
Supply Bill; Poll Tax.
Resolved, That this House do, To-morrow Morning,
at Ten of the Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of
the whole House, to take into Consideration the Bill for
a Supply to their Majesties by a Poll.
And then the House adjourned until To-morrow
Morning, Nine a Clock.