Mercurii, 24 die Aprilis; 1° Willielmi et Mariæ.
Prayers.
Westminster Paving.
ORDERED, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill
for paving the Streets of Westminster, and other
Places within the Bills of Mortality, except the City of
London.
Nassau's, &c. Nat.
Sir Robert Cotton reports from the Committee to whom
the Bill for Naturalizing Henry de Nassau, and others,
was referred, That the Committee had thought fit to
make several Amendments thereunto: Which he read in
his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards delivered
the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were
Once read throughout; and a Second time, one by one;
and, upon the Question, severally put thereupon, agreed
unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be
ingrossed.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be revived; and do
sit this Afternoon.
Guilford Election.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, to whom the Matter touching the
Election of Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament
for the Borough of Guilford in the County of Surrey
was referred, the State of the Case, as it appeared to
the Committee: Which he delivered in at the Clerk's
Table; and is as followeth:
Upon the Petition of Morgan Randyll, Esquire, touching the Election of Burgesses for the Town ofGuilford in the County of Surrey;
That the Question was, Whether the Right of Elections
of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the said Town of
Guilford was only in the Freemen and Freeholders of the
said Town, paying Scot and Lot, and resiant in the same;
or, in general, whether they paid Scot and Lot, or not.
That it was agreed, on both Sides, that Foot Onslow
Esquire, was duly elected One of the Burgesses for the
said Town. But
That the Counsel for the Petitioners insisted, That the
Right of Election was in the Freemen and Freeholders
of Guilford in general, though they did not pay Scot
and Lot: That several of them being denied to be
polled by the Mayor, some other proceeded in it; and
that, in the Whole, there was 188 for Mr. Randyll, and
150 for Mr. Weston: And called
* Banbury, a Witness: Who delivered in Two Papers;
which, he said, were Copies of Two Polls taken at the
Election.
John Moore, for the Petitioner, said, He was a Freeman, and paid Scot and Lot; has lived Threescore and
Thirteen Years at Guilford; and that, Forty-eight Years
ago, he was polled at an Election, and all the Freemen,
without Distinction. At Sir Robert Parkhurst, and Alderman Abbott's Election, he says, they polled all that did
not pay Scot and Lot: And that, all that time, he did not
pay Scot and Lot, being newly married, yet voted; but
says, he never received Alms: And that it continued so
till King James the Second his time, and then the Magistrates would have none polled, but such as paid to
Church and Poor: But before, he says, an Order used to
be read in the Church, for all Freemen to come to the
Election: And, though he remembers Four or Five Elections, yet he never knew any Dispute about paying to
Church and Poor: And that he has known those that
have lived in Alms-houses, and received Alms, polled;
but could name none such.
Thomas Wilkey said, he had known Elections for
Forty-two Years; and, if they were Freemen, though
Alms-men, they gave their Votes: That now he pays
Scot and Lot, and has paid for Three Years; but, when
he did not pay, he voted: That he voted for Mr. Glover,
and Mr. Weston, Sir Rich. Onslow and Sir Arthur Onslow,
though he did not pay Scot and Lot; and no Dispute
was about their paying Scot and Lot till King James the
Second's Time.
Thomas Ellis had known the Town for Forty-two
Years: That, when Mr. Glover and Mr. Weston was
chosen, all Freemen had their Voices, though they were
so poor as to receive Alms; He was polled then, though
he paid not to the Poor; but he received no Alms: That
he does pay to the Poor now.
Mr. Coldham said, He took the Poll for Mr. Randyll,
at his Desire, after the Poll was adjourned, and before it
was declared: But, whether they were Freemen, or what
they were, he knows not; but says, he polled above Fifty.
Geo. Chenell said, he knew about Fifty of those polled
by Mr. Coldham to be Freemen.
Another Witness testified, That, as soon as the Court
saw Mr. Randyll desired all the Freemen might Poll; and
the Mayor declared none should poll, but them that paid
Scot and Lot; that Mr. Randyll did offer a List of
Names to Mr. Mayor after the Adjournment, and before
the Poll was declared: And Mr. Mayor refused to poll
them, saying, they were not qualified.
Hen. Mills and Edw. Bray said, several were denied
to poll by the Mayor, though they offered themselves,
that did not receive Alms, nor Scot nor Lot.
William Milton said, He knows the Men polled in the
List by Coldham, except Two or Three, to be Freemen:
That about Thirty-eight of them were allowed to poll in
1679: That there are about Six or Seven that receive
Alms of the Parish.
That then the Counsel for the Petitioner excepted
against several polled for the Sitting Members, Twentythree in Number: But the Counsel for the Sitting Members undertook to prove their Rights.
That, for the Sitting Member, Mr. Weston, the Counsel insisted, That the Right of Election was only in the
Freemen and Freeholders of the Town, paying Scot and
Lot, and resiant in the same.
That, upon the Casting-up of the Poll, at first, Mr.
Onslow had 190, Mr. Weston 148, and Mr. Randyll 118:
But afterwards the Poll was scrutinied, and reduced thus:
Mr. Onslow had 143, Mr. Weston 105, Mr. Randyll 93:
And delivered in the Poll taken by Order of the Mayor;
And called
Mr. Child, a Witness, said, Upon the Poll there is 190
for Mr. Onslow, 148 for Mr. Weston, and 118 for Mr.
Randyll: But, afterwards, there was a Scrutiny, and it was
reduced: That Mr. Onslow had 143, Mr. Weston 105,
Mr. Randyll 93: That several of the Persons in the List
polled by Mr. Coldham, receive the Archbishop's, Abbott's,
Benevolence, and none of them pay Scot and Lot; but
several of them receive Alms: That some that have received that Benevolence have paid Scot and Lot; and
sometimes voted on one Side, and sometimes on the
other: That the Archbishop's Money was given to maintain the Manufacture in the Town; and that Trade falling,
there is a Decree for it to be paid to poor People: That
Mr. Randyll was not present at the Scrutiny; but the
Mayor offered that he might have Two, and, he said, he
was advised not: But says, the Mayor made Proclamation
at first, That he would exempt no Persons, but who did
not pay Scot and Lot, for their Poverty; and that, upon
Scrutiny, they that received Archbishop Abbott's Money
was not struck out, if they paid Scot and Lot.
Another Witness testified, The Paper given in by Mr.
Coldham were most of them very poor Men, and some
of them received Alms of the Parish.
Mr. Child said, Most of the Men excepted against by
the Petitioner, are Freemen, and pay Scot and Lot; and
though some did not, they were not exempted for
Poverty.
And that, upon the whole Matter, the Committee
came to Two Resolves: Which he read in his Place; and
afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table:
Where the same being read, are as follow;
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Right of Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the Town of Guilford in the County of Surrey, is
only in the Freemen and Freeholders of the said Town,
paying Scot and Lot, resiant in the same.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That John Weston, Esquire, is duly elected a Burgess
to serve in this present Parliament for the said Town of
Guilford.
The First of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, That the Right of Election of
Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the Town of Guilford
in the County of Surrey, is only in the Freemen and Freeholders of the said Town, paying Scot and Lot, resiant
in the same.
The Second of the said Resolves being read a Second
time;
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolve, That John Weston, Esquire, is
duly elected a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament
for the said Town of Guilford.
Address respecting War with France.
Sir Henry Goodrick reports from the Committee to
whom the Address to his Majesty in Relation to a War
against France was re-committed, That the Committee,
having considered the Matter to them referred, had
agreed upon an Address to be presented to his Majesty:
Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered
the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was
Once read throughout; and a Second time, Paragraph
by Paragraph; and, after an Amendment made at the
Table, the same was agreed unto by the House; and is
as followeth:
To the King's most Excellent Majesty.
The humble Address of the Knights, Citizens, and
Burgesses, in Parliament Assembled.
WE, Your Majesty's most loyal and dutiful Subjects,
the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled,
most humbly lay before Your Majesty our earnest Desire,
That Your Majesty will be pleased to take into Your most
serious Consideration the destructive Methods taken,
of late Years, by the French King, against the Trade,
Quiet, and Interest of this Your Kingdom, and particularly, the present Invasion of the Kingdom of Ireland;
and, supporting your Majesty's rebellious Subjects there;
not doubting in the least, but that, through Your Majesty's Wisdom, the Alliances already made, with such as
may hereafter be concluded on this Occasion, by Your
Majesty, may be effectual to reduce the French King to
such a Condition that it may not be in his Power
hereafter to violate the Peace of Christendom, nor prejudice the Trade and Prosperity of this Your Majesty's
Kingdom.
To this End, we most humbly beseech Your Majesty
to rest assured, upon this our solemn and hearty Promise
and Engagement, That, when Your Majesty shall think
fit to enter into a War against the French King, we will
give Your Majesty such Assistance in a Parliamentary
Way, as may enable Your Majesty, under that Protection
and Blessing God Almighty has ever afforded You, to
support and go through with the same.
Resolved, That the Address be presented, by the whole
House, to his Majesty.
Ordered, That such Members of this House, as are of
his Majesty's most honourable Privy Council, do wait
upon his Majesty, to know his Pleasure, when he will be
attended with the Address of this House, in relation to a
War against France.
Marshal Schombergh.
A Motion being made, That the House would take
into Consideration the great Services done by Marshal
Schombergh, to their Majesties and this Kingdom; and
the great Losses he has sustained for the Protestant
Religion;
Resolved, That this House will take that Motion into
Consideration, when the Matter of the Revenue shall
come under the Consideration of the House.
Affairs of Scotland.
A Message from the Lords, by the Lord Chief Baron
Atkyns and . . . . Baron Nevill;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to acquaint you, that there have been divers Letters, which we
have here, that have been transmitted from Scotland to
the King, by Duke Hamilton: The Lords desire to let
this House know, That they are considering what is to be
done for the Security of this Kingdom; and when they
are come to a Resolution, they will acquaint you; and,
therefore, they desire you to sit. Some of the Letters are
Originals; some of them are but Copies; and the Reason
why there are but Copies of some, is this; That the Originals are kept in Scotland, to be made use of against those
to whom they are writ, who are in Custody: The Letters
and Copies are placed in the same Method they came to
the House of Lords; and as they were read there.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
Resolved, That this House will sit some time.
The Messengers were called for to come in, to be
acquainted therewith; but they were gone.
Resolved, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to
acquaint them, that this House will sit, as is desired; and
that they intended to have so acquainted their Messengers,
had they not gone away.
Mr. Hamden, One of his Majesty's most honourable
Privy Council, acquaints the House, That he had the
Method the Letters should be read in; and also, that
One of the Letters was from the Earl of Tyrconnell to
Duke Hamilton, who had sent it to his Majesty; and that
it was desired there might be no Reflection upon Duke
Hamilton in relation thereunto, he having acted much
for his Majesty's Service.
The Letters were read, viz.
A Copy of a Letter from the Earl of Melford, to the
Earl of Perth, dated Dublyn, 29 M. 1689.
A Copy of King James' Letter to Viscount Dundee,
dated Dublyn, 29 M. 1689.
A Copy of King James' Letter to the Earl of Balcarasse, dated Dublyn Castle, 29 M. 1689.
A Letter from the Earl of Tyrconnell to Duke Hamilton, dated Dublyn Castle, 15 March 1689.
A Letter from the Earl of Tyrconnell to the Earl of
Perth, dated Dublyn Castle, 15 March 1689.
King James' Letter, dated Dublyn, 29 March 1689.
King James' Letter, dated Dublyn, 29 March 1689.
Rights of the Subject, and Succession to the Crown.
A Bill for establishing the Articles presented to their
Majesties by the Lords and Commons, and for settling
the Crown, was read the Second time.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to a Committee
of the whole House on Saturday Morning next, at Ten
of the Clock: And that the House do then resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House thereupon,
accordingly.
Call of the House.
Resolved, That the Calling-over the House be adjourned, until Saturday Sevennight next.
A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Justice Powell
and Mr. Justice Gregory;
Lords desire a Conference.
Mr. Speaker, the Lords desire a present Conference
with this House in the Painted Chamber, upon the
Subject Matter of the Bill of Oaths.
Yarmouth Haven.
And, also, we are to acquaint this House, That the
Lords have passed the Bill touching the Haven and Piers
of Great Yarmouth.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
A Debate arose in the House, in regard only a
Conference was desired, after there had been a free
Conference upon the same Matter.
Resolved, That the Answer to be given be, That this
House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.
The Messengers were called in: And Mr. Speaker
acquainted them therewith.
Members summoned.
Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms attending this
House do go into Westminster Hall, and Court of Requests, to call the Members into the House.
Resolved, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to
acquaint them, That the House hath received a Message
from their Lordships, for a present Conference in the
Painted Chamber, upon the Subject Matter of the Bill of
Oaths: That they do not conceive it to be according to
the Course of Parliaments, to have a Message for a
Conference, after there hath been a free Conference
upon the same Subject.
Leave for Members to attend Lords.
Ordered, That Mr. Finch and Sir Wm. Williams, have
Leave to attend at the Bar of the House of Lords on
Saturday next, as Counsel in a Cause between the Earl
of Darby and the Earl Rivers.
Supply Bill; collecting Revenue.
Sir George Treby reports from the Committee to whom
the Bill for preventing Doubts and Questions touching the
Revenue, was referred, That they had thought fit to make
several Amendments thereto: Which he read in his
Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's
Table: Where the same were read once throughout, and
afterwards, one by one; and agreed unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill with the Amendments, be
ingrossed.
Message delivered to Lords.
Mr. Hamden acquaints the House, That he had,
according to their Order, been up at the Lords, and
delivered their Message.
Disarming Papists.
A Bill for the more speedy Convicting and Disarming
of Papists, was read the Third time.
An ingrossed Clause was offered to be added, for
seizing the Horses of Papists, above the Value of Five
Pounds; which was read Three times; and agreed unto
by the House, to be made Part of the Bill.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be,
An Act for the more speedy and effectual Convicting and
Disarming of Papists.
Ordered, That Sir Hen. Goodrick do carry up the Bill
to the Lords, for their Concurrence.
Habeas Corpus Suspension.
A Message from the Lords, by the Lord Chief Baron
Atkins and Mr. Baron Nevill;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords lately sent you down some
Letters, they received from their Majesties; and desired
that this House would sit; and they would enter into
Consideration, how to secure the Peace of the Kingdom.
In pursuance of that, They have sent you down a Bill,
which is intituled, An Act to impower his Majesty to
apprehend and detain such Persons as they shall find just
Cause to suspect are conspiring against the Government:
To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
The Bill was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
The Bill was read the Second time.
Resolved, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The Bill was now read the Third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That the Marquis of Winchester do carry up
the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them with the
Concurrence of this House thereunto.
Conference with Lords.-Oaths of Allegiance, &c.
A Message . . . . . ., by Mr. Baron Nevill, and Mr.
Justice Powell;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent us, to desire a free
Conference with this House, upon the Subject Matter
of the last free Conference.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
Resolved, That this House do agree to a free Conference with the Lords, as is desired.
The Messengers were called in again: And Mr. Speaker
acquainted them therewith.
Resolved, That the Persons that managed the last free
Conference do manage this free Conference.
Sir Geo. Treby reports from the free Conference with
the Lords, That the Persons appointed to manage the
same had attended the Lords: And that the free Conference was managed by the Earl of Kingston, and divers
other Lords, who acquainted the Managers, That they
departed from their Disagreement, and did agree to the
Amendments of this House; with the Proviso following:
"Provided always, and be it Enacted, by the Authority
aforesaid, That it be left to the King, to allow such of the
Clergy as shall refuse the Oaths prescribed by this Act, as
he shall think fit, not exceeding the Number of Twelve,
an Allowance out of their Ecclesiastical Benefices or
Promotions, for their Subsistence, not exceeding a Third
Part; and to continue during his Majesty's Pleasure,
and no longer:"
But that the Lords were acquainted, That such Proviso
was contrary to all Course and Practice of Parliament.
The Proviso was Thrice read; and agreed unto by the
House, to be made Part of the Bill.
Resolved, That Sir George Treby do carry up the Bill
to the Lords; and acquaint them with the Concurrence
of this House to the Proviso.
Precedents of Amendments to Bills.
Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to search
Precedents touching Proceedings between the Two
Houses in relation to Amendments of Bills.
And it is referred unto Mr. Sachaverell, Sir Rich. Temple, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Hamden, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Sir Rob.
Cotton, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Colonel Birch, Mr.
Palmes, Mr. P. Foley, Mr. Tho. Foley, Mr. Somers, Mr.
Boscawen, Sir Geo. Treby, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir Wm.
Williams, Mr. Garway; or any Three of them: And to
make their Report to the House.
The King appoints to be attended.
Sir Henry Capell acquaints the House, That, according
to their Order, he, with others of the Privy Council, had
waited upon his Majesty, to know when he would be
attended by this House with their Address, in relation to
a War against France: And that his Majesty was pleased
to appoint To-morrow, at Three of the Clock in the
Afternoon, at the Banqueting House at Whitehall.
Supply.
Resolved, That this House do To-morrow Morning,
at Ten of the Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of
the whole House, to consider of the Motion made on
Saturday last, for a Supply to be given for the Navy.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.
Militia.
Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to prepare
and bring in a Bill to render the Militia more effectual.
And it is referred to Sir Rich. Temple, Mr. Christy, Mr.
Sacheverell, Sir Tho. Pope Blunt, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Sir
Rob. Cotton, Lord Norris, Mr. Vincent, Mr. Garaway, Sir
Christopher Musgrave, Sir Wm. Williams, Sir Tho. Tayler,
Sir Jos. Tredenham, Mr. Alford, Mr. Howard, Mr. Cooke,
Sir Tho. Clarges, Colonel Birch, Mr. Done, Sir John Key,
Mr. Hunt, Sir John Knatchbull, Mr. Stockdale, Mr. Somers,
Mr. Boscawen, Sir Edw. Harley, Colonel Norton, Sir John
Guise, Mr. Palmes, Sir John Bancks, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr.
Tho. Foley, Mr. Phil. Foley, Mr. Montague, Mr. Freke,
Mr. Burrard, Mr. St. John; or any Three of them: And it
is recommanded to Mr. Sacheverell, to take care of the Bill.
French Protestants.
Mr. Hampden reports from the Committee to whom
it was referred to consider of a Way to relieve the French
Protestant Ministers, and such others as are uncapable of
maintaining themselves, otherwise than by Charity, who
are fled out of France for their Religion, That the Committee having considered thereof accordingly, had found
the Case to be,
That the French Ministers, and divers other Protestants
of France, fled hither for Refuge, being summoned, appeared, and expressed a high sense of their Gratitude for
the Generosity and Charity of this House, in taking their
distressed Case into their Consideration; and, to shew
how ready they are to manifest their Fidelity to the Government of this Nation, they represented, how the
youngest and strongest of their Body were lately formed
into Three Regiments, who were ready to lay down their
Lives in Defence of the Protestant Religion, and the
Liberties of England.
That there are near Twenty thousand more of them,
who exercise their Trades in divers Parts of this Kingdom, without any Detriment, as they humbly hope, but
rather to the Advantage, of the People of this Nation:
But that there still remains above Two thousand Persons;
some of them old, others Infants, others sick and impotent; but all unable to provide for themselves; Divines,
Physicians, Merchants, Gentry, common People, many
of them heretofore rich and flourishing in their own
Country, but now are reduced to the utmost Misery; and
must infallibly perish and starve, unless assisted by this
House, the Money of the Two late Collections made
upon the Briefs obtained from the late King James, not
being sufficient to last beyond the End of the next June;
after which, they have nothing to trust to, but the Mercy
of God, and the Piety and Compassion of this House.
The Committee examined the Management and Distribution of the Money raised by the Two said Collections;
the First whereof amounted to about Fifty thousand
Pounds; and the latter, to about Fifteen thousand
Pounds: Which Two Sums have served them for about
Three Years and an half.
The Committee, upon Examination, found the said
Two Sums to have been faithfully employed for the Ends
mentioned in the aforesaid Briefs; and all Parties concerned to be well satisfied.
That after this, the Committee proceeded to the Consideration of the present State of the said distressed French
Protestants: And it appeared to them, That there are now
to be provided for, about One hundred poor Ministers,
and their Familes, amounting in all, to about Three
hundred Persons; about a hundred Gentlemen, and
their Families, amounting likewise to about Three hundred Persons; about Four hundred Physicians, Lawyers,
Citizens, &c. about Four hundred common People;
Sixty fick Persons at the Pest House; about a Hundred
Children at Nurse; and about Four hundred Persons in
divers Places in the Country.
Upon Calculation of the yearly Sum requisite for the
Support of these distressed People, they found, That a
Revenue of Seventeen thousand Two hundred Pounds
per Annum is necessary for the Support of the distressed
French Protestants.
That the Committee proceeded to consider of a Fund
that might be proper for the raising the said yearly Sum:
Divers Things were propounded, as the renewing the Tax
upon Coal; the laying One per Cent. upon all Merchandizes exported and imported, as has been formerly done
for the Redemption of Captives; the Revenue that may
be raised upon Hackney Coaches; Taxes to be laid upon
Paper; the Wine Licence Office, Post Office, and others:
But, upon the whole Matter, the Committee, being desirous to find out a Fund that might be most convenient,
and least burdensome to the Publick; and might, at the
same time, most certainly answer the charitable Intentions
of this House, and yield the aforesaid Sum, without Difficulty to the said distressed French Protestants; came to
these Resolutions: Which he read in his Place; and
afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Tables
Where the same being read, are as follows:
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That a Revenue of Seventeen thousand Two hundred
Pounds per Annum is necessary for the Support of the
distressed French Protestants.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the new Imposition upon Wine and Vinegar, which
is to expire the Twentieth of July 1693, is a proper Fund
for the Charging the said Sum of Seventeen thousand Two
hundred Pounds per Annum.
Royal Assent to Bills.
A Message from the King, by Sir Thomas Duppa,
Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod;
Mr. Speaker,
The King commands this honourable House to attend
his Majesty, immediately, in the House of Peers.
Accordingly, the House went up to the House of Peers,
to attend his Majesty.
And being returned;
Mr. Speaker acquaints the House, That his Majesty
had given his Royal Assent to the following Bills; viz.
An Act for impowering his Majesty to apprehend and
detain such Persons as he shall find just Cause to suspect
are conspiring against the Government.
An Act for the abrogating the Oaths of Supremacy and
Allegiance, and appointing other Oaths.
An Act for the amoving Papists, and reputed Papists,
from the Cities of London and Westminster, and Ten Miles
distant from the same.
An Act for the taking away the Revenue arising by
Hearth-money.
An Act for the encouraging the Exportation of Corn.
An Act for the explaining and making more effectual,
a Statute made in the First Year of the Reign of King
James the Second, concerning the Haven and Piers of
Great Yarmouth.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Nine of the Clock.