Lunæ, 29 die Julii; 1° Gulielmi et Mariæ.
Claims on Revenue.
A PETITION of Letitia Cheeke, Widow, was read;
setting forth, That King Charles the Second, by
Letters of Privy Seal, dated 29th of June, in the Thirteenth Year of his Reign, directed Payment to be
made to Sir John Robinson, and to the Lieutenants
of the Tower, for the Time being, the yearly Allowance
of Two hundred Pounds a Yea . . . . self; Sixteenpence per Day for the Gentleman Porter, and Fourteenpence per Day for each of Forty Yeomen Warders; as
also such Sums of Money for Fewel, Repairs, Charges
of Prisoners, &c. and other Charges, for which Allowances were made by King Charles the First: That, in
April 1679, his said Majesty, by his Letters Patents,
made Mr. Cheeke Lieutenant of the Tower, with a Grant
of all Fees and Salaries thereto, who disbursed (being so
intitled) divers Sums of Money, about Prisoners, and
necessary Accommodations of the Tower; and, by virtue
of the said Privy Seal, made his Demands, by Quarterly
Bills, according to the ancient Usage in King Charles the
First's Reign; as followeth:
|The Quarterly Bills, from Lady-day 1679 exclusive, to Lady-day 1680, inclusive,
|From thence to Lady-day 1681, inclusive,
|From thence to Lady-day 1682, inclusive,
|From thence to Lady-day 1683, inclusive,
|From thence to Lady-day 1684, inclusive,
|From thence to Lady-day 1685, inclusive,
|For Two thirds of Five hundred and Fifty Pounds, being for Two Years and Three Quarters of his Salary of Two hundred Pounds per Annum, from Lady-day 1682 to Christmas 1684, retrenched by King James the Second,
|For a Quarter's Salary, due Lady-day 1685,
|Officers Salaries to be deducted, which belong not to Mr. Cheek,
|So rest due to Mr. Cheek
The Quarterly Bills were examined, and allowed by
Sir Robert Howard, and signed by the Privy Council,
according to the Direction of the Lord Privy Seal; but
none of them have been paid: That, in June 1687, the
late King James the Second removed Mr. Cheek from
the Office of Lieutenant of the Tower; but, in Compensation of the Loss of it, he, by his Letters Patents, dated
the Twenty-third of August 1687, granted to Edward
and Francis Russell, Esquires, and in Trust for the Petitioner and her Children, Six hundred Pounds per Annum
for Ten Years; which amounts to Six thousand Pounds:
But one Year hath been so, that the Accompt between
the Two last Kings, and Mr. Cheek, stands thus; viz.
|Due to him from King Charles the Second, a Debt contracted in his Service in the Tower
|Due to him from the late King James, in lieu of the Loss of his Office of Lieutenant of the Tower
And the Petitioner praying, That, in Consideration
thereof, the late King James's Grant may not be vacated,
but stand in Force, being for a valuable Consideration.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be
referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom
the Bill for settling the Revenue, is referred.
Preventing Export of Wool.
A Petition of divers Merchants, Factors, and Clothiers,
was read: But it was withdrawn, in regard it prayed to
take a Clause out of the Bill for preventing the Exportation
of Wool, for the exporting Cloth; and that a Bill might
be brought in for that Purpose only.
Act 5 H. 4. against Multiplying Gold and Silver.
An ingrossed Bill to repeal the Statute of 5 Hen. IV.
against multiplying Gold and Silver, was read the Third
An Amendment was proposed to be made, Press 2,
Line 8, by leaving out, after " * * *," these Words,
"as the same would yield by the Ounce Troy Weight,
at the same time, in any Goldsmith's Shop in Lombardstrcet, London:" Which was, upon the Question put
thereupon, agreed unto by the House: And the Bill
amended at the Table accordingly.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title
thereof be, An Act to repeal the Statute made in the Fifth
Year of King Henry the Fourth, against multiplying
Gold and Silver.
Ordered, That Sir Walter Moyle do carry the Bill up
to the Lords for their Concurrence.
Sir Thomas Littleton reports from the Committee, to
whom it was referred to inquire into the Miscarriages relating to Ireland and Londonderry, That the Committee
had examined the Matter complained of against Wm.
Harbord, Esquire, a Member of the House: And that
Sir John Temple, being examined upon what he knew in
relation to Colonel Richard Hamilton's being sent into
Ireland, and likewise concerning any Declaration for the
Papists laying down their Arms in Ireland, said as followeth;
That he never saw, spoke with, or writ to, this Mr.
Hamilton, since he came into England; but that the
Sending him over was transacted by another (meaning his
Nephew, Mr. Temple):
That, about the End of December last, a great many
Gentlemen came out of Ireland, upon the Rumour of an
That he has heard this Mr. Hamilton did tell his Nephew, That if he might be sent into Ireland, he would
prevent this Massacre; and did believe he might prevail
with the Lord Tyrconnell to deliver up the Kingdom:
That there was a Pass obtained for Mr. Hamilton to go
on this Errand into Ireland, and he was to return in Three
Weeks; but he broke his Word and never came.
He conceives this Going-over of Hamilton's did no
great Harm, that he knows of; for that it was but the
Loss of One Man to our Interest, who might have gone
however, for that there was no Stop upon his Going;
nor, after he was gone, did the Preparations against Ireland go on ever the less for it.
That he said, he knows of no Transaction in this particular Affair against Colonel Hamilton and Mr. Wm.
Harbord; but that Mr. Harbord might discourse with his
Nephew about this Business, for aught he knows.
That he said, he was himself sent to by Mr. Harbord
to come to Town, and advice about the best Means for
That, about the First or Second of January, he was
sent for to Town, particularly by Mr. Harbord; and told
by him, That the King's Pleasure was, a Declaration
should be drawn for the Papists in Ireland to lay down
That he drew one to that Purpose, and brought it to
Mr. Harbord. That the King, he believes, might see it.
That it was shewed to divers Irish Gentlemen, who
were dissatisfied about it: He believes the Reason was,
because he had drawn . . by himself, without their Privity: Upon which he told Mr. Harbord, This Declaration might be laid by, and another drawn. Which was so
done among the Irish Gentlemen, to their own Satisfactions.
He said, He drew a Letter likewise to Tyrconnell, for
delivering up the Government: Which he delivered up
to Mr. Harbord.
That Mr. Harbord did give him all the Countenance,
Assistance, and Dispatch, that was possible, in relation to
all the Irish Affairs wherein he was concerned.
Sir Oliver St. George, being next examined, said, That
soon after the Prince's Arrival at London in December last,
he acquainted his Highness, That it would conduce
much to the Good of Ireland that a fair Correspondence
were settled from hence thither; and that Expresses
might be sent away to let them know how well Things
That the Prince approved of what he said; and ordered him to attend Mr. Harbord for that Purpose.
That Mr. Harbord told him he would from time to
time, give him all possible Dispatch.
That, discoursing upon this Subject, Mr. Harbord
ordered him to find out fit Messengers to carry such
That he recommended one Mr. Courthop and Mr.
Cartwright, as very honest Men, and fit to be employed
in this Affair.
That he attended Mr. Harbord often, to get these Messengers dispatched into Ireland; but that Mr. Harbord
was many times so passionate, as he thought himself
slighted by him.
That Mr. Harbord, at last, put off Mr. Cartwright,
One of the Persons recommended to him, and would not
employ him; but employed one Mr. Hamilton.
That Mr. Harbord delayed the other Messenger Mr.
Corthope, till one Adam Peardon came with Letters from
my Lord Inchiqueen and Mr. Boyle, representing the Condition of Ireland; and pressing for some Relief to be sent.
He said he told Mr. Harbord, That if the Messengers
had been dispatched, when he first pressed it, they might
have been back again by that time Mr. Peardon came.
That Mr. Peardon after staid about a Fortnight, before
he could be dispatched.
That Mr. Hamilton (who was sent by Mr. Harbord in
the stead of Mr. Cartwright) fell sick by the Way, whereby the Benefit of Two Expresses were lost; which was of
That Mr. Hamilt . . . . . aminations, taken before
the Committee, Mr. Wm. Harbord said, He had divers
Witnesses to justify himself against any Aspersions that
might be laid upon him; and moved they might be
called in, and examined.
But that the Committee proceeded to debate upon what
they had already heard; and were unanimously satisfied
(after they had heard Mr. William Harbord in his Estate),
that no Reflection whatsoever did rest upon him, from any
Evidence that had been given; and therefore altogether
needless to examine any more Witnesses.
And that the Committee ordered this special Matter, as
it stands, to be reported to the House, with all Expedition, for the further Justification of Mr. Wm. Harbord,
from any thing that might seem to reflect upon him.
Which Report being delivered in at the Clerk's Table,
and there read;
And the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee therein;
The House divided.
The Noes go forth.
|Tellers for the Yeas,
|Tellers for the Noes,
||Sir John Guise,
So it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Privilege- Reflections on a Member.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee of Privileges
and Elections, to whom it was referred to examine the
Matter touching the raising and spreading a false and scandalous Report of Sir Peter Rich, by one Christopher Smelt,
the State of the Fact as it appeared to the Committee; and
which the Committee had directed him to report specially
to the House: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's
Table: And was there read; and is as followeth: viz.
That Devereux Jerman, a Witness, being examined,
testified, That on the Twenty-fifth of June, at Five in the
Morning, being, with some others, drinking his Morning's
Draught at one Mary Allen's, Christopher Smelt came
in; and said, "Where is your little Rich now? I have done
his Business:" And being asked, How; he said, He went
about, and told the People, That Sir Peter Rich was the
first Popish Knight King James made; and that he was
the Rogue or Rascal that impannelled my Lord Russell's
That Thomas Halfehyde said, He was at Mary Allen's
at the same time: And that Smelt came in, and told them,
He had been choosing Sheriffs and Chamberlain; and that
he had done Sir Peter Rich's Business; and that he went
about the Hall, and told the People, He was the first Popish Knighthood that King James had made.
That George Gun said, That he was present at Mary
Allen's at the same time: And that Smelt came in, and
said, He had been choosing a Chamberlain; and that he
had told it up and down, What Sir Peter Rich was; and
had done his Business: And that he said, Sir Peter Rich
was one of those that impannelled my Lord Russell's
Jury: But, being some time since, cannot remember all
that passed then.
That Jeremy Bower said, Most of the Discourse was
over, when he came in; but Smelt talked of Sir Peter
Rich, and the first Popish Knighthood.
That Mr. Smelt said, They discoursed What was done
the Day before at Guildhall: And that he saying, Sir
Peter Rich was out, Mr. Jerman was angry: And thereupon he said, That, setting aside Sir Peter Rich's Popish
Knighthood, there was as good Men in the Hall as he:
John Cautryn: Who said, He had known Mr. Smelt
Fifteen Years: That he had been twice Master of his
Company; always voted for Protestant Religion, and
the chief Instrument that prevented the Surrender of
And called Edm. Faulcon, to the same Purpose.
But the Committee, not conceiving it material, came to
a Resolution: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where
the same was read; and is as followeth;
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Premises be specially reported to the House.
Resolved, That the said Christopher Smelt hath broken
the Privileges of this House, in spreading a false and scandalous Report of Sir Peter Rich, a Member of this House.
Ordered, That Christopher Smelt be taken into Custody
of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, for breaking the Privilege of this House, in spreading a false and
scandalous Report of Sir Peter Rich, a Member of this
Supply Bill Settling Revenue.
Resolved, That the House do now resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole House, in the further Consideration of the Bill for settling the Revenue; and so de die in
diem, till the same is finished.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
Mr. Hamden took the Chair of the Committee.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning resolve . . . Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole
House, to proceed in the further Consideration of the Bill.
Conference with Lords.
Then the Managers went to the free Conference with
the Lords, as was appointed on Saturday last.
And being returned;
Mr. Solicitor General reports from the free Conference,
That the Managers appointed had attended the same:
And that the Earls of Nottingham, Rochester, and other
Lords, managed the same on the Part with the Lords:
And that it held very long, and therefore desired Time
to digest the Matters offered thereat into the Report to
be made thereof.
Resolved, That the Report of the said free Conference
be entered in the Journals of the House: And that Mr.
Solicitor General be desired to prepare the same for that
Prohibiting Commerce with France.
Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned, except the
Committee to whom the Clause proposed to be added to
the Bill for preventing the Importation of French Goods
. . . . .
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Eight a Clock.