November 1689

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House of Commons Journal Volume 10
21 November 1689

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 21 November 1689', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 10: 1688-1693 (1802), pp. 291-292. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=28936 Date accessed: 24 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Jovis, 21 die Novembris 1° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Recovery of Tythes, &c.

A MESSAGE from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cooke and Mr. Methwyn;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have agreed to the Bill for the more easy Recovery of small Tythes, and for the Repair of Churches; with some Amendments: To which they Desire the Concurrence of this House.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Resolved, That the said Amendments be now read.

The Amendments were once read throughout; and are as followeth;

2 Skin, 32 Line, instead of "retain to themselves," read "pay to the Party complaining."

3. Skin, 21 Line, after "Kingdom," add "And if, at any time hereafter, any such Suit for such small Tythes, Offerings, Oblations, Obvertions, or Church Rates, shall be commenced in any Ecclesiastical Court, the Proceedings in such Suit shall be summarily, and viva voce, without Delay or Vexation; and shall be heard and determined in One or Two Court Days at most: And that no Person shall be hereafter excommunicated for not obeying the Summons or Sentence of the Ecclesiastical Court, in such Suit for small Tythes; but, upon the Notappearing or Disobedience of any Person, the Ecclesiastical Judge shall certify Two Justices of the Peace of the County; who shall proceed, as by the Statute 27 H. VIII. Ca. 20. intituled, 'For Tythes to be paid throughout this Realm,' is provided: And in Case any Ecclesiastical Judge shall proceed otherwise, then the Suit is and shall be dismissed from the Ecclesiastical Court, with Costs."

25 Line, after "Peace," add "or by any Ecclesiastical Judge."

4. Skin, 19 Line, after "Question," add "and shall prove the same by Two Witnesses upon Oath."

5 Skin, 25 Line, after "Peace," add, "or Ecclesiastical Judge."

6 Skin, 33 Line, after "Peace," add "or Ecclesiastical Judge."

34 Line, after "under," add "his or."

7 Skin, 14 Line, after "Peace," add "or Ecclesiastical Judge."

21 *, after "whatsoever," add "otherwise than is by this Act provided."

Strangers to be committed.

Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms attending this House do take into Custody such Strangers, who shall presume to come into the House or Gallery, while the House or any Committee of the whole House, is sitting.

Supply Bill; Land Tax.

Then the House resolved into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for a Grant of an Aid to their Majesties of Two Shillings in the Pound for one Year.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General reports from the Committee of the whole House, That they had made some Progress in the Bill; and that they had directed him to move the House, That the Committee of the whole House may sit again To-morrow Morning.

Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning at Ten of the Clock, resolve into a Committee of the whole House, to proceed in the further Consideration of the said Bill.

Committees.

The Question being put, That all Committees be adjourned;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Sir Tho. Barnadiston, 62.
Sir Dunco. Colchester,
Tellers for the Noes, Mr. Arnold, 66.
Mr. Whitehead,

So it passed in the Negative.

Lords desire Leave for Members to attend them.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Adam Otley and Mr. Meredith;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords do desire, that Colonel Godfrey, and Anth. Rowe, Esquire, may have Leave to come to the Committee, who are appointed to consider, Who were the Advisers and Prosecutors of the Murders of the Lord Russell, Colonel Sidney, and others; and who were the Advisers of Quo Warranto's against Corporations; to declare their Knowledge concerning those Matters.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Resolved, That Colonel Godfrey and Mr. Rowe have Leave to attend accordingly.

And the Messengers were called in again; and Mr. Speaker acquainted them therewith.

Graham and Burton.

Ordered, That Mr. Arnold, Sir Phil. Skippon, Colonel Whitley, Sir Dunc. Colchester, Mr. Fortescue, Sir Edw. Aiscough, Mr. England, Lord Norries, Mr. Niccolls, Mr. Hobby, Sir Tho. Barnadiston, Mr. White, be added to the Committee appointed to take the Examinations of Witnesses, and prepare a Charge against Mr. Graham and Mr. Burton.