House of Lords Journal Volume 19
8 December 1711

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 19: 8 December 1711', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 19: 1709-1714 (1767-1830), pp. 337-339. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=29989 Date accessed: 23 July 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, 8 Decembris.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Epus. London.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Petriburg.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Cestrien.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Cicestrien.
Epus. Meneven.
Ds. Harcourt, Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Oxford & Mortimer, Thesaurarius.
Dux Buckingham & Nor. Præses.
Epus. Bristol, Custos Privati Sigilli.
Dux Shrewsbury, Camerarius.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Grafton.
Dux Ormonde.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Northumberland.
Dux St. Albans.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Schonburg.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Marlborough.
Dux Rutland.
Dux Montagu.
Dux Kent.
March. Dorchester.
Comes Poulett, Senescallus.
Comes Derby.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Dorset.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicester.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Berkshire.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Cardigan.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Carlisle.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Berkeley.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Plimouth.
Comes Portland.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Orford.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Grantham.
Comes Wharton.
Comes Godolphin.
Comes Cholmondeley.
Comes Mar.
Comes Loudoun.
Comes Orkney.
Comes I'lay.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Dartmouth.
Viscount Say & Seale.
Viscount Townshend.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Hatton.
Viscount Kilsyth.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Fitzwalter.
Ds. Willughby Br.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard Escr.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Colepeper.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Osborne.
Ds. Carteret.
Ds. Ossulstone.
Ds. Stawell.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Haversham.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Barnard.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Hervey.
Ds. Cowper.
Ds. Pelham.
Ds. Boyle.

PRAYERS.

Poor's Bill.

Hodie Ia vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the preventing of the Poor's being defrauded."

Committee for Privileges.

Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Customs and Orders of the House, and the Privileges of Parliament, and of the Peers of Great Britain and Lords of Parliament.

Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Ds. Thesaurarius.
Ds. Præses.
Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli.
Ds. Camerarius.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Grafton.
Dux Ormonde.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Northumberland.
Dux St. Albans.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Schonburg.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Marlborough.
Dux Rutland.
Dux Montagu.
Dux Kent.
March. Dorchester.
Comes Poulett, Senescallus.
Comes Derby.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Dorset.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicester
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Berkshire.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Cardigan.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Carlisle.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Berkeley.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Plimouth.
Comes Portland.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Orford.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Grantham.
Comes Wharton.
Comes Godolphin.
Comes Cholmondeley.
Comes Mar.
Comes Loudoun.
Comes Orkney.
Comes I'lay.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Dartmouth.
Viscount Say & Seale.
Viscount Townshend.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Hatton.
Viscount Kilsyth.
Epus. London.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Petriburg.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Cestrien.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Cicestr.
Epus. Meneven.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Fitzwalter.
Ds. Willughby Br.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard Escr.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Colepeper.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Osborne.
Ds. Carteret.
Ds. Ossulstone.
Ds. Stawell.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Haversham.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Barnard.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Hervey.
Ds. Cowper.
Ds. Pelham.
Ds. Boyle.

Their Lordships, or any Seven of them; to meet on Monday next, at Ten a Clock in the Forenoon, in the House of Peers, and every Monday after; and to adjourn from Time to Time as they please.

Committee for the Journal.

Lords Sub-committees appointed to consider of the Orders and Customs of the House, and the Privileges of the Peers of Great Britain and Lords of Parliament; and to peruse and perfect the Journals of this and the last Session of Parliament.

Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Ds. Thesaurarius.
Ds. Præses.
Ds. Camerarius.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Rutland.
Dux Kent.
March. Doxchester.
Comes Poulet, Senescallus.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Orford.
Comes Wharton.
Comes Godolphin.
Comes Mar.
Comes I'lay.
Comes Ferrers.
Viscount Say & Seal.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Hatton.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Petriburg.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Cestrien.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Asaph.
Epus. Meneven.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Willughby Br.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard Escr.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Berkeley Str.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Carteret.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Cowper.
Ds. Boyle.

Their Lordships, or any Three of them; to meet when, where, and as often as, they please.

Stoppages in the Streets, Order to prevent.

The House taking Notice, "That there is such an Interruption, by Hackney Coaches, Carts, and Drays, in King's Street, and the Passages to The Old Palace Yard in Westminster, that the Lords and others are frequently hindered from coming to this House, to the great Inconveniency of the Members of both Houses:"

It is thereupon Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the High Steward of the City of Westminster, or his Deputy, together with the Justices of the Peace for the said City, shall, by their Care, and Directions to the Constables and other Officers within the said Limits, take special Order, that no empty Hackney Coaches be suffered to make any Stay, between Whitehall and The Old Palace Yard in Westminster, from Eleven of the Clock in the Forenoon until Three of the Clock in the Afternoon of the same Day, during the Sitting of this Parliament; and that no Carriages, Drays, or Carts, be permitted to pass through the said Streets and Passages, between the Hours aforesaid, during the Sitting of this Parliament; and herein special Care is to be taken, by the said Deputy Steward, Justices of the Peace, Constables, and all other Officers herein concerned, as the contrary will be answered to this House.

Standing Orders to be read.

Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That on this Day Fortnight, the Twenty-second Instant, the Roll of Standing Orders of this House shall be read.

Address reported.

The Earl of Nottingham reported from the Lords Committees appointed to prepare an Address to Her Majesty, upon the Resolution of this House Yesterday, "That they had prepared an Address accordingly, as follows; (videlicet,)

"We, Your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, do, with Hearts full of Gratitude and Loyalty to Your Sacred Majesty, beg Leave to return Your Majesty our most humble and hearty Thanks and Acknowledgments, for Your Majesty's most tender and affectionate Concern for all Your People, expressed in Your Majesty's most Gracious Speech from the Throne; and for imparting to us Your Majesty's Desires of ending this present War, by a Peace advantageous to Your Subjects, and just and honourable for Your Majesty and all Your Allies; as also for Your Majesty's expressing so particular a Regard for the Interest of The States General, as inseparable from Your own; and that Your Majesty is graciously pleased to assure us, it is Your chief Concern, that the Protestant Religion and the Laws and Liberties of these Nations may be continued to Your People, by securing the Succession to the Crown as it is limited by Parliament to the House of Hanover; and that Your Majesty is pleased to shew so just a Resolution to procure a Satisfaction for all the Allies, being by Treaties entitled to have their several Interests secured at a Peace, and to unite them in the strictest Engagements, in order to render the Peace secure and lasting.

"And we do beg Leave to represent it to Your Majesty, as the humble Opinion and Advice of this House, That no Peace can be safe or honourable to Great Britain or Europe, if Spain and The WestIndies are to be allotted to any Branch of the House of Bourbon."

Which Address, being read by the Clerk entire, was afterwards read, and agreed to, Paragraph by Paragraph.

Then it was proposed, "That the said Address, so agreed to, be presented to Her Majesty."

After Debate;

The Question was put, "Whether this Address shall be presented to Her Majesty?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Protest against it, on Account of the additional Clause.

"Dissentient.

"We dissent to the Address, because the Nature of it is changed by the Insertion of the last Clause, from that of an Address of Thanks: Neither have we had any Thing Parliamentarily, from the Throne, or otherwise, laid before us, whereon to ground such Advice as is therein contained.

"And we look upon it as an Encroachment on the Royal Prerogative, in so hasty a Manner to declare our Opinions, and on no better Grounds, in a Thing so essentially belonging to the Crown, as making of Peace and War.

"Northumberland.
"Beaufort.
"North & Grey.
"Clarendon. Hatton.
"Sussex. Joh. Bristol, C. P. S.
"Yarmouth.
"Osborne.
"Denbigh. Scarsdale.
"Plimouth.
"Thanet.
"Willughby de Broke.
"P. St. David's. Cardigan.
"T. Chichester.
"Delawarr.
"Berkshire.
"Stawell."

Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the aforementioned Address be presented to Her Majesty by the whole House.

Lords with White Staves to know when Her Majesty will be attended.

Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Lords with White Staves do wait on Her Majesty, humbly to know what Time Her Majesty will please to appoint to be attended, with the said Address.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Lunæ, decimum diem instantis Decembris, hora undecima Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.