House of Lords Journal Volume 3
17 April 1628

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 17 April 1628', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 3: 1620-1628 (1767-1830), pp. 741-743. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=30569 Date accessed: 30 July 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 17 Aprilis,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

p. Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
p. Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
p. Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
p. Epus. Norwicen.
p. Epus. Roffen.
p. Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
p. Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
p. Epus. Meneven.
p. Epus. Lincoln.
p. Epus. Sarum.
p. Epus. Bath. et Well.
p. Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
p. Epus. Gloucestren.
p. Epus. Carlile.
p. Epus. Exon.
p. Epus. Landaven.
Ds. Coventry, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
p. Comes Marleborough, Magnus Thesaur. Angliæ.
p. Comes Maunchester, Præs. Concilii Domini Regis.
p. Dux Buckingham, Mag. Admirall. Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
p. Comes Lindsey, Magnus Camerar. Angliæ.
p. Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Maresc. Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, Senesc. Hospitii.
p. Comes Mountgomery, Cam. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes (fn. *) Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
p. Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
p. Comes South'ton.
p. Comes Bedford.
p. Comes Hertford.
p. Comes Essex.
p. Comes Lincoln.
p. Comes Nottingham.
p. Comes Suffolciæ.
p. Comes Dorsett.
p. Comes Sarum.
p. Comes Exon.
p. Comes Bridgewater.
p. Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
p. Comes Warwic.
p. Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr.
p. Comes Carlile.
Comes Denbigh.
p. Comes Bristol.
p. Comes Angles.
p. Comes Holland.
p. Comes Clare.
p. Comes Bolingbrooke.
p. Comes Westmerland.
p. Comes Banbury.
p. Comes Berk.
p. Comes Cleveland.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
p. Comes Monmouth.
p. Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
p. Comes Newcastle.
p. Comes Dover.
p. Comes Petriburgh.
p. Comes Sandford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
p. Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Savage.
p. Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newarke.
p. Vicecomes Bayninge.
p. Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavenny.
Ds. Audley.
p. Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
p. Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
p. Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
p. Ds. Stourton.
p. Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windsore.
Ds. St. John de Bas.
Ds. Cromewell.
Ds. Evre.
p. Ds. Pagett.
p. Ds. North.
p. Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
p. Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Stanhope de Harr.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
p. Ds. Noel.
p. Ds. Kymbolton.
p. Ds. Newenham.
Ds. Brooke.
p. Ds. Mountague.
p. Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
p. Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
p. Ds. Tufton.
Ds. Craven.
p. Ds. Mountioy.
p. Ds. Fawconbridge.
p. Ds. Lovelace.
p. Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
p. Ds. Maynard.
p. Ds. Howard.
p. Ds. Weston.
p. Ds. Goringe.

EARL of North'ton excused.

Levingston's Naturalization.

Alexander Levingston, who hath exhibited his Bill of Naturalization this Parliament, did this Day take the Oaths of Supremacy and Allegiance, according to the Statute; and delivered a Certificate that he did receive the Communion at St. Martine's Church in the Fields, this last Easter.

E. Devon's Bill.

Hodie Billa missa fuit ad Domum Communem, per Servientes Crewe et Davenporte; videlicet, Billa concerning the Lands of the Earl of Devon.

Message to the House of Commons, by the Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and Mr. Baron Trevor: videlicet,

Message to the Commons, for a further Conference touching the Liberties of the Subject.

The Lords desire that the Committee of both Houses may meet again, at Two this Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber (if that Time may stand with the Conveniency of the House), to finish that Conference which was begun Yesterday.

Answered:

They will meet, to confer accordingly.

Answer.

Another Message to the Commons, by the said Messengers: videlicet,

Message to the Commons to bring their Journal to the Conference.

That the Lords have a great Care that this Conference may take good Effect; and therefore their Lordships being put in Mind of the Opinion of a Learned Gentleman concerning that Business, which is mentioned in their Journal of the Parliament begun 18° Jacobi (but entered in the Month of May Anno 19° Jac.), their Lordships desire that their own Clerk (if they please) may have that Book in Readiness to be shewn at this Conference, if Need shall be.

The Messengers returned, and said, That the Commons will, in convenient Time, send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

And afterwards this Answer was sent from the Commons, by Sir Thomas Edmonds and others:

Answer.

Whereas their Lordships desire that certain Memorials, entered by the Clerk of their House, might be produced at this Conference; for that there was no Resolution of their House at that Time in the said Business, but only short Speeches entered, not allowed by the House to be entered, but then spoken against, and since disavowed, and so the same can be no Record: They are therefore unwilling to produce those Things unto your Lordships, which themselves have disavowed; and yet, as they are very willing, so they do hope (this notwithstanding) all due Respects shall be continued between both Houses.

Lamplugh discharged.

This Day Anthony Lamplugh, Esquire, was brought to the Bar, according to the Order Yesterday, where he made his humble Acknowledgement of his unjust and scandalous Petition against the Lord Keeper and Bishop of Lincoln, and asked them Forgiveness for the same.

The Delinquent being withdrawn; the Lord Keeper and the Lord Bishop of Lincoln gave Thanks to the House, for their Noble Respect unto them, and besought their Lordships that the rest of their Censure against the said Lamplugh might be forgiven, which the House agreed unto; and the same was declared unto him, being at the Bar again, and so he was discharged of his Imprisonment.

River Medway.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act to make the River of Medway navigable from Maidestone to Penshurste.

(fn. *) Abergavenny.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act

And Memorandum, That whereas the Reminder of the said Land desired to be sold is in the Crown, the Duke of Buckingham signified, That His Majesty hath given His Assent that this Bill may be exhibited.

Committed unto the

L. Duke of Buckingham.
E. of Dorsett.
E. of Leicester.
E. of Devon.
E. of Clare.
E. of Westm'land.
L. Bp. of Co. et Lich.
L. Bp. of Sarum.
L. Bp. of Lincoln.
L. Bp. of Carlile.
L. Bp. of Landaffe.
L. Delawarr.
L. North.
L. Spencer.
L. Maynard.
L. Weston.
L. Goreinge.
Mr. Justice Yelverton, To attend the Lords.
Mr. Serjeant Damport,
Mr. Serjeant Berkley,

To meet on Monday, the 21st of April, at Two in the Afternoon, in the Little Committee Chamber.

Message from the Commons, by Sir John Ellyott and others:

Message from the H. of C. touching their Complaint against the E. of Suffolk.

The Commons renewed their former Complaint against the E. of Suff. (14 April.) and shewed that, upon the said Earl's Denial, that he spake not the said Words unto Sir John Strangeways wherewith he is charged, they made Inquisition of the Truth thereof, as well touching the said Denial, as for the clearing of their own Member, who affirmed the same. In which Inquisition, they find that he the said Earl of Suff. did speak the said Words unto the said Sir John Strangwayes; and that the said Earl further said, "That he would not stand in Selden's Case for Ten Thousand Pounds; and that Mr. Selden went about, and sought to set Division betwixt the King and His People." The Commons do further affirm, That these Words had not only Reference to the Rasure, but to the whole Narrative of the Commons at the late Conference, in which the Commons had directed Mr. Selden; and so the Commons are wounded hereby, through Mr. Selden's Sides. The Commons, therefore, have righted their own Member Sir John Strangewayes, having found the said Words to be truly affirmed by him, notwithstanding the said Earl of Suffolkes Denial. And the Messengers gave their Probalities thereof.

"1. They found that the said Earl spake the said Words before many then present.

"2. That the said Sir John Strangwayes did presently tell them unto the Earl of Herteford.

"3. They found it evident that the said Earl of Suff. did call the said Sir John Strangewayes unto him at that Time, and spake unto him.

"4. The said Sir John Strangwayes revealed not this of himself, but was first constrained thereunto by Vote of their House; so that it cannot be thought he would speak more than the Truth."

Then the said Messengers declared the Resolution of the Commons herein: videlicet,

"That (notwithstanding the Earl of Suff's Denial) he the said Earl of Suff. hath done this great Injury unto Mr. Selden in particular, and through him to the whole House in general; and that Sir John Strangwayes spake nothing but the Truth herein."

Then the said Messengers exhibited the Names of the Witnesses whom they have examined: videlicet, Sir Christopher Nevill, Knight, and Mr. Littleton; and the Names also of divers Lords that were then present, and whom they have Cause to believe could justify the same; videlicet, the Earls of Hertoford, Essex, Nottingham, Sarum, Petriburgh, and Stamford; and added that Sir Thomas Nevill was present also, but they had no Time to examine him. Wherefore the House of Commons demands Justice of this House against the said Earl of Suff. and that their Lordships would punish him the said Earl of Suff. according to the Weight of his Offence.

Answered:

Answer.

The Lords have resolved to take this into their Consideration; and, after due Deliberation thereof, they will give them an Answer in convenient Time.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum, videlicet, diem Veneris, 18m instantis Aprilis, hora nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.

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* This Marginal Note is in the Original.