DIE Mercurii, videlicet, 14 die Maii,
Domini
tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:
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Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bath. et W.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Gloucestren.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Landaven. |
Ds. Coventrey, Ds. Custos Mag. Sigilli.
Comes Marleborough, Magnus Thesaur. Angliæ.
Comes Manchester, Præs. Concilii Domini Regis.
Dux Buckingham, Magnus Admirall. Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Lindsey, Mag. Camerar. Angliæ.
Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Maresc. Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, Senesc. Hospitii.
Comes Mountgomery, Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolciæ.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwic.
Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr.
Comes Carlile.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristol.
Comes Angles.
Comes Holland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Berk.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Newcastle.
Comes Dover.
Comes Petriburgh.
Comes Standford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Savage.
Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newarck.
Vicecomes Bayninge.
Vicecomes Campden.
Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavenny.
Ds. Audley.
Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windsore.
Ds. St. John de Bas.
Ds. Cromwell.
Ds. Evre.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. North.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Stanhope de H.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
Ds. Noel.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
Ds. Robarts.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Vere.
Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Tufton.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Mountioy.
Ds. Fawconbridge.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Mohun. |
E. of Danby excused.
EARL of Danby excused.
Baud's Fees to be moderated.
Upon reading the Petition of Ferdinando Baud, concerning the Order 8 Maii, for the Serjeant to bring
him before the Lords, to answer his Contempt; and
upon reading a former Order of 3 Maii; their Lordships Ordered, That Sir Edward Salter shall moderate
the Serjeant's Charges in sending for the said Baud,
and no other Fees to be paid.
Lane versus Baud.
The Day of Hearing between Robert Lane and the
said Ferdinando Baud is appointed on Tuesday next, the
20th of this instant May, at Nine in the Morning, here
at the Bar.
Reformation of Abuses on the Sabbath.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the further
Reformation of sundry Abuses committed on the Lord'sday, commonly called Sunday.
Committed unto the
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L. Archbp. of Cant.
E. of Huntingdon.
E. of Bedford.
E. of Clare.
L. Viscount Say et S.
L. Bp. of Co. et Lich. |
L. Bp. of Lincoln.
L. Bp. of Bath. & W.
L. North.
L. Spencer.
L. Noel.
L. Mountague.
L. Weston. |
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Mr. Attorney General, |
To attend the Lords. |
| Mr. Serjeant Ayloffe, |
To meet this Afternoon, at Four, in the Little
Committee Chamber.
Petition of Right.
Whereas the Lords had agreed to move the Commons to reduce their Petition, touching the Point of Imprisonment, within the Compass of that which His Majesty hath offered by His Gracious Letter (prout per le
Vote 12mo
Maii post meridiem);
And whereas the House hath prayed a Conference
with the House of Commons to that Purpose; their
Lordships were moved to agree upon some Reasons
whereon to move the said Commons; and, after some
Debate thereof in the House, these Lords were appointed to draw up the same: videlicet,
Committee for drawing up Reasons to induce the H. C. to amend this Petition.
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L. Archbp. of Cant.
L. Keeper.
L. President.
L. Admiral.
E. Marshal.
L. Steward.
E. of Bedford. |
E. of Bristol.
L. Viscount Say et S.
L. Bp. of Norwich.
L. Bp. of Lincoln.
L. Pagett.
L. Weston. |
The House was adjourned, during Pleasure, that the
said Committee might withdraw, to set down the said
Reasons.
Message from the Commons, for a Conference concerning it.
The said Committee being returned, and the House
resumed; a Message came from the Commons, by Mr.
Secretary Cooke and others: That the Commons are now
ready to attend the Conference required Yesterday, at
such Time and Place as their Lordships shall appoint.
Answer.
Unto which it was answered: That their Lordships
have appointed Two post meridiem, in the Painted
Chamber, for the said Conference; and their Lordships
desired the House of Commons to sit this Afternoon, as
their Lordships will do; for that there may be Occasion
for either House to resort to their House again, and
return to the Conference, for expediting of this Business.
The Lord Keeper delivered to the Lords briefly
what the Committee had agreed should be delivered to
the Commons at this Conference.
(Vide the Report of this Conference post meridiem.)
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens
Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in pomeridianum
hujus diei, hora secunda, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Mercurii, videlicet, 14 Maii, in pomeridiano,
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum
nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:
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Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Rossen.
Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bath. et W.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Gloucestren.
Epus. Carlil.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Landaven. |
Ds. Coventrey, Ds. Custos Mag. Sigilli.
Comes Marleborough, Mag. Thesaur. Angliæ.
Comes Manchester, Præs. Concilii Domini Regis.
Dux Buckingham, Mag. Admirall. Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Lindsey, Mag. Camerar. Angliæ.
Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Maresc. Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, Senescall. Hospitii.
Comes Mountgomery. Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolciæ.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwic.
Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr.
Comes Carlile.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristol.
Comes Angles.
Comes Holland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Berk.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Newcastle.
Comes Dover.
Comes Petriburgh.
Comes Standford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
Vicecomes Say et S.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Savage.
Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newark.
Vicecomes Bayninge.
Vicecomes Campden.
Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavenny.
Ds. Audley.
Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windsore.
Ds. St. John de Bas.
Ds. Cromwell.
Ds. Evre.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. North.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Stanhope de H.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
Ds. Noel.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
Ds. Robarts.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Vere.
Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Tuston.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Mountioy.
Ds. Fawconbridge.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Mohun. |
THE House being adjourned ad Libitum, the Lords
went to the Conference.
Their Lordships being returned, and the House resumed; the Lord Keeper reported the Effect of the
said Conference: videlicet,
Report of the Conference, concerning the Petition of Right.
"First, His Lordship repeated the Heads of what
he spake (according to the Directions of the House
this Morning) in the Entrance of the said Conference, on this Manner: That, at the last Meeting,
the Lords made to the Commons a Proposition of
some Alterations to be made in the Petition; and
doubt not but the Commons have considered of them,
and come prepared to confer.
"That, at the same Time, the Commons were made
acquainted with His Majesty's Letter, and had a Copy
delivered them to consider of, as the Lords also promised to do.
"That the Lords have done accordingly, and taken
into their Thoughts, First, the Propositions or Tenets
of the Commons concerning the Subjects Liberty;
Secondly, that Part of the Petition which concerns
it; and Lastly, His Majesty's Letter: That, upon
all these, they have not proceeded to any Resolution
exclusive or conclusive, not to exclude the Right or
Liberty of the Subject, nor the Propositions or Petition concerning the same, nor yet to exclude the Prerogative or Right of the King, nor to conclude themselves from more mature Resolutions.
"But, upon Consideration of the Letter, they find
Gracious Intentions in the King, and divers Royal and
good Offers touching the Liberty and Freedom of the
People.
"That they have considered of the present Affairs;
that our Coast is infested by Enemies, and likely to
be more, if there be not present Preparations against
them.
"That the State of the Reformed Religion Abroad is
miserable and distressed, and expects and depends on
the Success of this Parliament; and therefore their
Lordships with such a Course to be taken as may best
beget a right Understanding between the King and
His People: And therefore they have thought fit the
Commons be moved, That the Petition concerning
that Point, for this Time and Session, be reduced into
such a Form as may be most agreeable to that which
by this Letter we may expect to have from the King."
The Lord Keeper further reported, "That, he having said thus much, Sir Edward Cooke (one of the
Commons House) answered, and expressed their great
Joy for that the Lords held so good Correspondency
with them, which they would endeavour to continue;
and proceeded to speak to their Petition, and of their
Lordships proposed Alterations or Amendments, and
of the King's Letter; and said, that they had voted
their Petition, and expected Reasons from the Lords
for those Alterations; and that the Letter is no Answer in a Parliamentary Way to their Petition, etc.
it will take up much Time fully to consider thereof;
and offered to satisfy their Lordships in the other
Part of the Petition."
And the Lord Keeper further reported, "That Sir
Dudley Digges (one other of the Commons) desired
to have Leave to resort to their House, and they
would return suddenly to the Conference again."
After some small Stay, the Commons returned to the
Conference; and the Lords having Notice thereof, the
House was adjourned during Pleasure.
Their Lordships being returned; the House was resumed.
The Lord Keeper reported, "That the Commons
said, They had related unto their House what their
Lordships had said concerning the King's Letter; and
that their House have resolved not to enter into Consideration thereof, for that it is no Parliamentary
Course. And they explained what Sir Edward
Cooke had said touching their voting of the Petition;
videlicet, That they had voted it at a Committee, not
in their House, for otherwise they could not alter any
Part thereof."
Lords agree to return to the Conference.
This Report ended; the Lords considered what should
be more said unto the Commons, who attended in the
Painted Chamber; and, after some small Debate, it
was Agreed, To return to the said Conference, and the
Lord Keeper to let them know, That it is not the Intent
of the Lords to rest only upon the King's Letter for an
Answer to the Petition, but to move the Commons to
frame the Petition so as it may be best accommodated for
the King's Answer; and then to proceed in a Parliamentary Way: Their Desire is not to change the Substance of the Petition (by those Alterations propounded), but only to alter some Phrases, which may
haply be displeasing unto His Majesty: And that the
Lords desire that the Point of Imprisonment may have
Precedency before they debate any other Point of the
Petition.
Then the House was again adjourned during Pleasure,
and the Lords went to the Conference.
Report of the Conference, touching the amending the Petition of Right.
Being returned, and the House resumed; the Lord
Keeper reported the Commons Answer to be, "That
they conceive the Lords propounded not unto them,
that they should wholly rely on the King's Letter for
an Answer to the Petition; yet, notwithstanding, they
cannot proceed upon the said Letter, it not being a
Parliamentary Way.
"That, if the Lords will be pleased to propound the
Alterations of the Petition, they will confer thereon."
This Report ended; the Lords began to debate
amongst themselves an Accommodation touching the
Point of Imprisonment; and the House being put into
a Committee, and having agreed not to be concluded
by any Proposition of Accommodation, it was resumed
again.
Agreed, upon the Question, That To-morrow Morning the House shall proceed to the Accommodation of
this Point in the Petition.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum,
videlicet, diem Jovis, 15m diem instantis Maii, hora
nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.