DIE Martis, 4 die Februarii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Gouge.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
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Church, alias Churchman, for Words against the King.
This Day Church, alias Churchman, was
brought up, by Order of this House, for speaking Treasonable Words against the King.
Hereupon it is Ordered, That he shall be committed to the Prison of Newgate, there to remain until
he be released upon a Trial; and it is referred to the
Judges, or any Two of them, to consider what Course
is fit to be taken, to proceed against him; and to this
Purpose, Mr. Serjeant Fynch
(fn. *) is to attend the Judges,
and give them Information of the Evidence against
him.
James versus Middleton.
Upon reading the Petition of John James, One of
the Yeomen of His Majesty's Chamber in Ordinary;
desiring, "to take his ordinary Course in Law against
Henry Middleton; being bound for him, and having
paid Monies for him:" And in regard of his Privilege of this House, as being the King's Servant, granted
him in January 1643; and the Petitioner desiring to
take his Remedy in Law: It is Ordered, That a
Copy of the Petition be shewed to Middleton, who is to
shew Cause why the Petition should not be granted.
Ordinance for the Army to be under the Command of Sir T. Fairfax.
The House was adjourned into a Committee during
Pleasure, to take into Consideration the Ordinance for
a Model of a new Army; and, after Debate, and full
Consideration of it, the House was resumed; and the
said Ordinance was reported to the House as fit to pass,
with the Alterations and Provisos made therein.
And the said Ordinance was read, with the Amendments, and Provisos, and Additions; and it was Resolved,
upon the Question, That this House agrees to the
Ordinance, with these Additions, Amendments, and Provisos.
Ordered, To be sent down to the House of Commons.
Message to the H. C. with it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
To desire their Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning the Model of a new Army, with the Amendments, Additions, and Provisos.
The Speaker acquainted the House, "That he hath
received this Morning a Packet of Letters from the
Commissioners at Uxbridge;" which were read, as
followeth:
Letter from the Commissioners for the Treaty, about the Progress of the Propositions concerning Religion.
"To the Right Honourable the Lord Grey of
Warke, Speaker of the House of Peers pro
Tempore.
"My Lord,
"This Morning the Commissioners sent from His
Majesty shewed unto us their Commission amended,
the Copy whereof, and of a Paper which they gave
us, with our Answer to the same, we have herewith
sent you. After these Papers given and received,
this whole Day, from Ten of the Clock in the Morning until almost Twelve at Night, was spent in Debate
upon the Bill for abolishing of Episcopacy; when
the Debate ended, being very desirous to obtain some
satisfactory Answer before the expiring of the Three
Days appointed to treat concerning Religion, we delivered unto His Majesty's Commissioners the Second
Paper, which, with their Answer to it, we have likewise sent you with these Letters; and have prepared
our Papers to be given in upon the Propositions concerning the Militia.
"Your Lordship's Humble and faithful Servants,
Uxbridge, the 3d of Febr. 1644. One at Night.
"A. Northumberland.
"Salisbury.
Pembroke & Mount.
B. Denbigh."
Paper from the King's Commissioners, concerning the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy.
"3d
February, 1644.
"We are ready, by present Conference, to enter
upon Consideration of your Lordship's First Proposition concerning Religion, and shall desire to receive
or give Satisfaction, whereby we may be of One
Mind in that Argument; and, for the better entering into this Debate, we desire to know whether, in
respect of Alterations mentioned in the Third Proposition to be made in the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy, you would have this individual Bill passed
or not.
"By Command of His Majesty's
Commissioners.
"Exam'r,
"John Thurloe Secretary.
"Daniel Earle Secretary.
"Wm. Dugdale.
"Nic. Oudart."
Parliament's Commissioners desire the One with the King may be passed;
"3d
February, 1644.
"We desire the Bill for the utter abolishing of
Episcopacy, &c. which now remains with His Majesty, may be passed without Prejudice to us, to
insist upon the Alterations mentioned in the Third
Proposition; and we are ready to give your Lordships
a present Conference upon the First Proposition concerning Religion, according to your Desire.
"Exam'r,
"John Thurloe Secretary.
"Daniell Earle Secretary."
and desire the King's Commissioners Answer about it.
"3d
February, 1644.
"We desire your Lordships Answer to our Demands
upon the Propositions for Religion; and, in the First
Place, to the Bill for abolishing of Episcopacy,
which hath been so much debated, that, upon the
expiring of the First Three Days appointed to treat
concerning Religion, we may be able to return such
an Account to the Parliaments of both Kingdoms,
as may give them Hopes of a happy Progress in this
Treaty.
"Exam'r,
"John Thurloe Secretary.
"Daniel Earle Secretary."
They will give an Answer on the next Day appointed for treating concerning Religion.
"3d
February, 1644.
"We conceive we offered so weighty Doubts and
Considerations to your Lordships in this Day's Debate,
concerning several Parts in the Bill for abolishing
Episcopacy (your Lordships having confined and
limited our Debate to that individual Bill as it is
now penned, not to the Consideration of abolishing
Episcopacy in general), that your Lordships cannot
expect a positive Answer from us now, being after
Eleven a Clock at Night, touching that Bill; and
we shall be ready, by the next Day assigned for the
Treaty upon this Argument, to deliver our Opinions to your Lordships; the which we shall be
then the better able to do, when we have found,
by the Progress in our other Debates, how far a
blessed and happy Peace is like to be advanced, by
our endeavouring to give your Lordships Satisfaction
in this Particular.
"By Command of His Majesty's Commissioners.
"Exam'r,
"John Thurloe Secretary.
"Daniell Earle Secretary.
"Wm. Dugdale.
"Nic. Oudart."
King's Commission, authorizing His Commissioners, or any Ten of them, to treat with the Parliament's Commissioners.
"CHARLES R.
"Whereas certain Propositions were sent unto Us,
from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westm. and from the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, which were
brought unto Us at Oxford, in November last, by the
Earl of Denbigh and others; and, upon Our Answers,
Messages, and Propositions to them, and their Returns to Us, it is now agreed, that there shall be a
Treaty for a safe and well-grounded Peace, to begin at Uxbridge, on Thursday the Thirtieth of this
Instant January, as by the said Propositions, Answers,
Messages, and Returns, in Writing, may more fully
appear; We do therefore hereby appoint, assign, and
constitute, James Duke of Richmond and Lenox, Wm.
Marquis of Hertford, Thomas Earl of Southampton, Henry Earl of Kingston, Francis Earl of Chichester,
Francis Lord Seymor, Arthur Lord Capell, Christopher
Lord. Hatton, John Lord Culpepper, Sir Edward
Nicholas Knight One of Our Principal Secretaries
of State, Sir Edward Hide Knight Chancellor and
Under Treasurer of Our Exchequer, Sir Richard
Lane Knight Chief Baron of Our said Exchequer,
Sir Thomas Gardiner, Sir Orlando Bridgman, Mr.
John Ashburnham, and Mr. Jeffery Palmer (together
with Dr. Richard Steward upon the Propositions
concerning Religion), to be Our Commissioners touching the Premises; and do hereby give unto them,
and any Ten or more of them, full Power and Authority to meet, and on Our Part to treat, with Algernone Earl of Northumberland, Phillip Earl of
Pembroke and Mountgom'y, Wm. Earl of Salisbury,
Bazill Earl of Denbigh, Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman, Denzill Hollis, William Pierrepont, Esquires, Sir
Henry Vane the Younger Knight, Oliver St. John,
Bulstrode Whitlocke, John Crewe, and Edmond Prideaux, Esquires, for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westm.; and
John Earl of Loudoune Lord Chancellor of Scotland,
Archibald Marquis of Argile, John Lord Maytland,
John Lord Balmerino, Sir Archibald Johnston, Sir
Charles Erskyn, George Dundas, Sir John Smith,
Mr. Hugh Kennedy, and Mr. Rob't Barclay, for the
Estates of the Parliament of Scotland (together with
Mr. Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion), or with any Ten or more of them,
upon and touching the Matters contained in the said
Propositions, Answers, and Messages, or any other,
and according to the Manner and Agreement therein
specified, or otherwise, as they or any Ten of them
shall think fit; and to take all the Premises into their
serious Considerations, and to compose, conclude, and
end, all Differences arising thereupon, or otherwise,
as they, or any Ten or more of them, in their
Wisdoms shall think fit; and, upon the whole Matter,
to conclude a safe and well-grounded Peace, if they
can: And whatsoever they, or any Ten or more of
them, shall do in the Premises, We do by these
Presents ratify and confirm the same.
"Given at Our Court at Oxford, the Eight and
Twentieth Day of January, in the Twentieth
Year of Our Reign.
"By His Majesty's Command
"Exam'r,
"Edw. Nicholas.
"John Thurloe Secretary.
"Daniel Earle Secretary."
Letter from the Commissioners, about the Propositions for Church Government.
"For the Right Honourable the Lord Grey of
Werke, Speaker of the House of Peers pro
Tempore.
"My Lord,
"In the Papers we sent this Morning concerning
Congregational Assemblies, &c. you will perceive by
this inclosed (which was what we spake at the Conference) the Mistakes of the Persons appointed by
His Majesty to treat with us. We did not deliver any
Answer to that Paper in Writing; neither shall do
to this, but by your Commands; only were willing
to confer with them, to save Time as much as possibly
we could.
"Your Lordship's "Humble and faithful Servants,
Uxbridge, Feb. 3, 1644.
"A. Northumberland.
Pembrooke & Mount.
"Salisbury.
B. Denbigh."
"3 Februarii, 1644.
"The Congregational Assemblies for Government
consist of the Ministers and Ruling Elders of that
Congregation.
"The Classical Assemblies are made up out of many
of the Congregational Assemblies.
"Provincial Assemblies are made up out of the Ministers and Ruling Elders within the several Classes of
the Province.
"National Assemblies are made up of Ministers,
Ruling Elders, and other fit Persons, chosen out of
the several Provinces of that Nation."