DIE Mercurii, 23 die Julii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Hoyle.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this (fn. *) Answer from the House of Commons:
That they do take Notice of the Day of hearing the
Cause of the Earl of Stamford, &c. and have appointed
some of their Members to manage the Business: That
they have appointed their Committee for Mr. Griffith's
Business to meet this Afternoon.
Committees to meet about Ld. Savill's Business.
Ordered, That the Committee of this House do
meet this Afternoon, and so from Time to Time, to prepare the Report concerning the Lord Savill's Business,
and Mr. Cranford's Business.
Moudie's Goods in Holy Island to be restored.
Upon reading the Information of Mungie Moudie;
shewing, "That he hath lost all his Goods in The Holy
Iland; desiring they may be restored to him:"
Which was Ordered by this House; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons desired herein.
Message to the H. C. about the following Particulars.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
To desire that their Committee for the Lord Savill's
Business, and Mr. Cranford's Business, may meet the
Lords of that Committee this Afternoon.
2. To desire their Concurrence, that Thomas Bignall
may be Purser of The Crescent Frigott.
3. To desire their Care, that some Course may be
taken for relieving of Seamen wounded in the Service of
the Parliament, as there is for Land Soldiers.
4. To desire that the Lord Savill's Jewels may be disposed of, for the satisfying the Gentleman Usher of the
Black Rod what is due to him from the Lord Savill.
5. To desire their Concurrence, that Mungie Moudie
may have his Goods restored to him, taken from him in
The Holy Island.
6. To desire Concurrence, that Captain John Blith be
Serjeant Major to Colonel Browne's Regiment at Lyncolne.
7. To desire that the Countess of South'ton, with her
Children and Servants, may have a Pass, to go from Oxford,
to the old Countess of South'ton, at Titchfield, in Hampshire.
Declaration against the blasphemous Book.
The Detestation against the blasphemous Book, was
read, and approved of; it being brought from the Assembly. (Here enter it.)
Preachers, at the Thanksgiving, thanked.
Ordered, That Mr. Obadiah Sedgwicke and Mr. Warde
have hereby Thanks returned them, for their Pains in
preaching Yesterday at the Abbey Church, being the
Day of Thanksgiving for the good Success of Sir Tho.
Fairefax' Army in the West; and that they be desired to
print their (fn. *) Sermons.
Ordinance for a Collection for the Sufferers by Fire at Leighton Buzzard.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Laython Buzzard, in the County of Bedford; desiring, "They
may have Liberty to collect the Charity of well-disposed People, for to repair their great Losses received
by a late Fire:"
It is Ordered, That an Ordinance be brought in, to
this Purpose; and the House of Commons Concurrence
to be desired therein.
Committee to consider of the Paper concerning Church Government.
The Paper concerning the Government of the Church
was read the Second Time; and Ordered, To be committed to these Lords following, to consider of the same,
and report their Opinions to this House:
Mr. Baron Trevor, Mr. Serjeant Whitfield, and
Mr. Dr. Heath, to assist.
Any Three, to meet To- (fn. †) morrow Morning, at
Eight of the Clock.
Countess of Peterborough's Assesment.
Ordered, That the Lord Viscount Say & Seale and
the Lord Howard do give an Account to this House Tomorrow Morning of the Countess of Peterborough's Business, at Haberdashers Hall.
Message from the H. C. with Ordinances, &c. and for a Conference about the Instructions for the Commissioners going to Scotland.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Wm. Massam, &c.
To desire Concurrence in these Particulars:
1. An Ordinance to pay Ten Thousand Pounds, out of
the Excise, for paying the Lord Fairefax' Forces, &c.
(Here enter it.)
Read Thrice, and Agreed to.
2. An Ordinance concerning the Ministers of the
Town of Derby.
Agreed to, with Addition of Tho. Gell Esquire,
3. An Ordinance for adding the Names of Persons to
the Committees for raising the Twenty Thousand (fn. ‡) Pounds,
for keeping in the King's Garrisons.
4. An Ordinance for adding Names to the Committees for the Eastern Association.
5. To desire that Major Le Hunt do command Colonel
6. To desire a Conference, concerning the Instructions
to be given to the Commissioners that are to go to the
Parliament of Scotland.
Ordered, To give a Conference presently, in the
The Answer returned was:
That this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning
the Ten Thousand Pounds; and to that concerning Major Le Hunt: That this House will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired: To all
the rest of the Particulars of this Message, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:
That they will take Sir Wm. Balfour's Business into
present Consideration; and will send an Answer by Messengers of their own to the rest of the Particulars.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, nd the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Ordered, That this Report be made To-morrow
Order for 10,000l. for the Forces in the Northern Association.
"It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons
assembled in Parliament, That Ten Thousand Pounds,
with Interest, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent.
shall be paid in Course, out of the Receipts of the Excise
or new Impost, by Ordinance of the 11th of September, 1643, videlicet, Five Thousand Pounds for
Payment of the Forces which were late under the
Command of the Lord Fairefax, now upon the reducing of them; and Five Thousand Pounds more
for the Payment and Service of those Forces that are
to be raised and maintained by the late Ordinance for
the Northern Association; and the Commissioners of
Excise or new Impost are hereby authorized and required to pay the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds,
with Interest, accordingly, unto Colonel William White,
or unto such Person or Persons as shall have Order
from him under his Hand and Seal to receive the
same, or any Part thereof; and the Receipt of the
said Colonel William White, or any other Person or
Persons by his Order under his Hand and Seal as
aforesaid, of all or any Part of the said Ten Thousand
Pounds, with Interest, shall be unto the said Commissioners, and every of them, a sufficient Discharge
in that Behalf."
Declaration against the blasphemous Book, intituled, Comfort for Believers, &c. by Archer.
"Die Mercurii, 23 Julii 1645.
"As it hath pleased the Honourable Houses of
Parliament, out of their pious Care for preserving
Religion pure from the Leaven of pernicious and
blasphemous Doctrine, to order the burning of this
most scandalous Book; so have they further appointed
us, to declare the Abominableness thereof unto the
People: And we doubt not but every good Christian,
as soon as he shall hear the Scope and Contents of it,
will, together with us, detest the horrid Blasphemy
therein asserted; and acknowledge the godly Zeal,
Wisdom, and Justice, of Authority, in commanding it,
as an execrable Thing, to be taken away, that it may
not remain amongst us, to provoke God's Wrath, and
to produce such perilous and pernicious Fruits, whereby
the Souls of many may be corrupted, to their everlasting Destruction.
"For whereas that most vile and blasphemous Assertion, whereby God is avowed to be the Author of
Sin, hath hitherto, by the general Consent of Christian
Teachers and Writers, both ancient and modern, and
these as well Papists as Protestants, been not disclaimed
only, but even detested and abhorred; yet, in this
Book, it is not closely intimated, or occasionally
hinted, or inconsiderately and through Inadvertency
stumbled upon, but openly, and in express Terms,
and in a very foul Manner, propounded, maintained,
and purposely at large prosecuted; to wit,
1. Page 37.
"1st. That God is and hath an Hand in, and is the
Author of, the Sinfulness of His People.
2. Page 36.
"2ly. That He is the Author, not of those Actions
alone, in and with which Sin is; but of the very Pravity, Ataxy, Anomy, Irregularity, and Sinfulness itself
which is in them.
3. Page 37.
"3ly. That God hath more Hand in Mens Sinfulness
than they themselves.
4. Page 38, 39.
"4. That the Creature's Sin doth produce the
greatest Good, either in God's Glory, or in the Creature's Happiness, as the next Cause thereof; and that
all that Good is only brought about by Sin.
5. Page 39.
"5. That it is as incongruous and inconvenient to
make God the Author of the Affictions of the Creature as of the Sins.
6. Page 48.
"6. That, by Sins, Believers are as much nurtured
and fitted for Heaven as by any Thing else.
7. Page 48.
"7. That God fits Believers for Service in this
World, by leading them into Sins.
8. Page 52.
"8. That no Course is so full to remove or prevent
sinful or pernicious Troubles for Sin, as this looking on
God the Author of it, and the Good which He brings
about by it; which, because it is rarely done by Believers, and indeed hardly known, he therefore professeth to have enlarged himself upon it. In these and
many other like Terms hath he set forth this blasphemous Doctrine.
9. Page 36, 37.
"And further, 9ly, he condemneth our Orthodox
Writers, for that they have only granted, That God
is willing Sin should be, and that He permits it, and
orders Circumstances about its Production, and overrules it, and hath an Hand in, and is the Author of,
the Physical or Moral Act in and with which Sin is;
saying, That they have herein erred on the other
Hand, and made Sin more of the Creature and itself,
and less from God, than it is.
10. Page 4.
"Besides, the main Scope of the Book is, to perswade Men, 10, not to be oppressed or perplexed in
Heart by any Thing whatsoever befalls them, either
in Sin or Affliction; as if our Saviour, when He saith,
Let not our Hearts be troubled (for that is the Ground
upon which he builds), had intended to dehort His
Disciples from being troubled for their Sins.
"Very great is both the Danger and Scandal which
would from so detestable a Position as this arise, if it
should be suffered without Controul to be published
and dispersed abroad; especially in such a Time as
this, when, on the One Hand, Multitudes make Use
of the specious Name of Liberty for a Cloak of
Naughtiness, and of admitting and professing many
perverse and corrupt Opinions, exceeding injurious to
the Gospel of Christ, and to the Power of Godliness; and, on the other Hand, many watch for our
Halting, and glory in nothing more against us than
in those Advantages which the Weakness and Instability of such as are carried about with every Wind of
Doctrine, and are not settled and rooted in the Truth,
doth most unhappily minister unto them, to the unspeakable Prejudice of the Church of Christ, and
obstructing that blessed Reformation which is by all
good Men so earnestly desired.
"Exceeding dangerous it is unto the Souls of Men,
both as a Means to instill into them blasphemous and
impure Conceits of the Majesty of our most Holy
God, as also by a working them to a slighting or disregarding of Sin, and consequently letting loose the
Reins to all corrupt and licentious Living (for by how
much the less the Trouble is after Sin committed, by so
much the greater usually is the Boldness in committing
"And the Scandal hence arising is every whit as
great, both in regard of the Offence which is thereby
given unto the Reformed Churches, who, in the Public
Confessions, make Satan and Man himself the only
Causes and Authors of Sin; and some of them do,
in those their Confessions, by Name, damn this wicked
Position; and also, in regard of the great Advantage
which it giveth to our common Adversaries the Papists, who have hitherto only calumniously charged
the Doctrine of the Reformed Churches with so odious
a Crime (in the mean Time confessing that we do in
Words deny as well as they themselves); whereas
now, should this Book be tolerated, they might justly
insult over us, and publish to the World, That now,
in the Church of England, it was openly and impunely
maintained, That God is the Author of Sin; than
which there is not any One Point whereby they labour
in their Sermons and Popular Orations to cast a
(fn. *) greater Odium (though most injuriously) upon the
"And albeit the Person named to be the Author of
this Book hath been of good Estimation for Learning
and Piety; yet since, if any so deeply wounded the
Honour and Truth of God, we ought not at all to be
by any such Consideration withheld from declaring our
just Detestation of so odious a Book; for if any Man,
yea, if an Angel from Heaven, preach any Thing
contrary to the Gospel of Christ, the Apostle is not
afraid to pronounce him accursed: And indeed it is
a very dangerous Thing (and so much the more dangerous by how much the more ordinary and usual)
to take up new and corrupt Opinions upon Trust only,
on this Inducement, a Persuasion which we have of
the Sanctity of those Persons who are the Authors of
them; for we ought to try the Spirits, whether they
be of God; and to search the Scriptures, whether the
Things taught us be so or no; and, having tried all
Things, to hold fast that which is good; and upon
no Pretence whatsoever to depart from the Form of
sound Words in the Scriptures delivered unto us; or,
for the Reverence or Estimation of any Man's Person,
to entertain any such Opinions as do, in the very
Words of them, asperse the Honour and Holiness of
God, and are by all the Churches of Christ rejected; and therefore most justly hath Authority
appointed Execution in this Manner to be done upon
"Henry Robrough Scriba.
Adoneram Byfeild Scriba."
House adjourned till 9a cras.