House of Lords Journal Volume 7
29 July 1645

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 29 July 1645', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 7: 1644 (1767-1830), pp. 515-517. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33372 Date accessed: 28 July 2014.


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DIE Martis, 29 die Julii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Warde.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Essex.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Rutland.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. North.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Willoughby.

Rose to be instituted to the Living of Rugby.

Ordered, That Sir. Nathaniell Brent shall give Institution to Mr. Thomas Rose, to the Rectory of Rugby in Warwickshire.

Committee about L. Digby's Letter.

The Earl of Essex reported, "That the Committee concerning the Lord Digbie's Letter met Yesterday; and finding many of that Committee gone and to go out of Town, they thought it fit to adjourn the said Committee until Yesterday Five Weeks:"

Which this House approved of.

Paper concerning the Election of Elders.

The House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to take into Consideration the Paper brought from the House of Commons, concerning the Election of Elders, and putting the Parishes in London into several Classes.

The House being resumed; it was reported, "That the said Paper was fit to pass, with some Alterations and Amendments."

And it was Resolved, upon the Question, That this House agrees to this Paper, with the Amendments now read.

Ordinance for taking Accompts in the Northern Counties.

Next, the Ordinance brought up Yesterday from the House of Commons was read, concerning the taking of Accompts in the Northern Counties; and Agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

L. Wharton Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That the Lord Wharton hath Leave to attend his own Affairs in the North, as he comes out of Scotland, for some Time; and that he hath Leave to return Three Weeks after Michaelmas at the furthest.

The Earl of Northumb. presented to this House a Paper from the Commissioners of Scotland, which was read. (Here enter it.)

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, to know the Sentiments of the Houses, about preparing Propositions for a Peace.

"Having now seene and persued the diverse Letters and Papers of great Importance mentioned in the Answere of the Honnorable Houses of Parliament to our Paper of the 20th of June, which may give Light to the future Proceedings of both Kingdomes; having alsoe observed the good Successe of the Parliament's Forces since that Tyme, whereby the King and His Armies are brought to a much lower Condition, which in Divine Providence may be a further Preparation to an happy Peace; and having also Reason, from what we have learned in Tyme past, to apprehend that Men will not be at Rest, but still be dealinge underhand, and tampering for a Peace of their owne making, and for their owne private Endes, to the great Prejudice of the Publique, the further alienating of the King's Harte from a safe and well-grounded Peace, and the delaying of the Intentions of both Kingdomes; we doe in all Earnestnesse desire, upon the Grounds and Considerations presented in our former Paper, to knowe the Minde and Resolution of both Houses in a Matter of soe great Consequence, as is the renewing the Desires and Propositions of Peace (in such a Manner as shal be thought fitt), that we may make the same knowen to the Parliament of Scotland now sitting, which may expect no Losse from our Trust and Dilligence.

"By Comand of the Comissioners for the Parliament of Scotland."

28 July, 1645.

Ordered, That this Paper be communicated to the House of Commons.

Maintenance for Col. Butler, a Prisoner.

Ordered, To send to the House of Commons, to let them know, that Colonel Butler, a Prisoner in The Tower, is in great Want; therefore to desire he may have some Maintenance allowed him and his Wife and Children, or else that he may be brought to a speedy Trial.

E. of Denbigh's Accompts to be adjusted.

Ordered, That the Committee of Accompts do forthwith state and adjust the Accompts of the Earl of Denbigh, as well of those Sums for which he is accomptable for, as also the Arrears which are due unto him for his Entertainment, and give a speedy Account hereof to this House.

L. Grey, a Protection for his House, &c. in the North.

Ordered, That the Lord Grey of Warke shall have a Protection for his House, Goods, and Parks, in the North.

Cable and Cross.

Ordered, That the Cause of Bartol'mew Cable shall be heard this Day Sevennight.

Order to reduce the Quorum of the Committees for Oxon, &c.

An Order was brought in, for reducing the Quorum of the Committees of the Three Counties of Oxon, Berks, and Bucks; and read Thrice, and passed; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence.

Message from the H.C. with Ordinances.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Nicolls;

To desire Concurrence in these Particulars:

1. An Ordinance to pay Two Hundred Pounds to Major General Skippon. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

Answer.

The Answer returned was:

That this House agrees to the Ordinance for paying Two Hundred Pounds to Major General Skippon: To the rest of the Particulars, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance for Concurrence.

Next, the Ordinance for paying Five Thousand Pounds, for the Affairs of the West, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Message to the H. C. with the Paper about the Election of Elders, and other Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page:

1. To deliver to them the Paper concerning Election of Elders; and to let them know, that this (fn. *) House agrees to it, with Amendments, wherein their Concurrence is desired.

2. To desire their Concurrence in the Order for reducing the Quorum of the Committee for the Three Counties.

3. To deliver to them the Scotch Paper presented to this House this Day.

4. To desire that Colonel Butler may either be brought to a speedy Trial; or else some Means may be allowed, to maintain him and Wife and Children.

Ordinance for taking Accompts in the Northern Counties.

"Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That, for the West Ryding of the County of Yorke, Thomas Stockdale Esquire, John Farrer, Thomas St. Nicholas, Thomas Dickenson of Kirby Hall, Esquires, Hugh Currer of Flashby, Thomas Westby, Gentlemen; for the North Rydinge, Luke Robinson, George Moorewood, Francis Lassells, Esquires, Ralph Rymer, Robert Colthist, Gentlemen; for the East Rldinge, John Styllington Esquire, John Lodge, Richard Darly, Marmaduke Grimston, Gentlemen; for the City of Yorke and County of the same, Robert Horner Alderman, Phillip Ford Merchant, Hugh Snawsdall Esquire, John Swayle of Askam Gentleman; for the County of Northumberland, Henry Ogle, Thomas Lawrein, Esquires, Ralph Sawkell Gentleman, William Armorer, Henry Horsley, Gentlemen; for the Town and County of Newcastle upon Tyne, John Cosins Alderman, Robert Ellison Sheriff, Edward Man Town Clerk; for the Town of Barwick upon Tweede, John Sleigh Esquire Mayor, and the Mayor of Berwick for the Time being, Sir Robert Jackson Knight; for the County of Duresme, Thomas Bowes, Clement Fulthrop, Esquires, John Fenwick, William Sedgwick, Christopher Mickleton, John Areson, Gentlemen; for the County of Westmerland, Gervas Benson, Richard Branthwayt, Thomas Sands, Gentlemen; for the County of Cumberland, William Briscoe, Thomas Lamplough, Esquires, Miles Halton, Nicholas Mawson, Gentlemen; for the County of Nott. Gervas Pigott, Charles White, Esquires, Thomas Salisbury, John Mason, Gentlemen; for the County of the Town of Nott. the Mayor for the Time being, Thomas Salisbury, and John Mason, Gentlemen; for the Town of Kingston upon Hull and County of the same, the Mayor for the Time being, Alderman Deuman, Alderman Popple; for the County of Lancaster, John Bradshaw of Darcy Leever Gentleman, William Booth of Reddish Gentleman, Thomas Fell Esquire, James Thornton Gentleman, George Towlneson Gentleman; or any Two or more of them, of the several respective Counties, Cities, and Places, hereafter mentioned, where such Persons as shall be appointed by the Parliament of Scotland, or the Committee of Estates of the Parliament of Scotland, if they so please, may be present; and the said Persons, nominated as aforesaid, or any Two or more of them respectively, as aforesaid, shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, (fn. †) to examine by Oath, or by any other lawful Ways and Means whatsoever, what Money, Billet, Goods, or Provisions, have been raised, levied, or taken, in the several Counties, Cities, Towns, and Places, hereafter in this present Ordinance particularly mentioned, by the Commanders, Officers, or Soldiers of the Scottish Army, or by any other Person or Persons, for the Use and Benefit of the Scottish Army, or any Part thereof, since the 19th Day of January, 1643, by any Tax, Loan, Billeting, Quartering, taking of Cattle, Sheep, Corn, Hay, or other Provisions, in the several and respective Counties of Yorke, Nott. Duresme, Northumberland, Cumberland, Westm'land, and Lancaster, the City of Yorke and County of the same, the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne and County of the same, the Town of Nottingham and County of the same, the Town of Kingston upon Hull and County of the same, and the Town of Berwick upon Tweede: And, to the End the same may be better brought to an Accompt, the said Commissioners, or any Two or more of them respectively, as aforesaid, are hereby directed and required to return the Examinations and Proceedings taken in Pursuance of this Ordinance, and to make One or several Certificates thereof, (fn. *) with what Expedition they may, to the Parliament of England, concerning the Premises: And be it lastly Ordained, and the Commissioners of the Great Seal are hereby authorized and directed, for the Purpose aforesaid, to issue forth One or more several Commission or Commissions, under the Great Seal of England, to the respective Persons before named; for which, this present Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant to the Commissioners of the Great Seal in that Behalf."

Order for 200l. to General Skippon.

"Whereas Thomas Foote Esquire, Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise or new Impost, have advanced and lent Two Hundred Pounds, for the Use of Major General Skippon: Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners of Excise or new Impost shall and may reimburse themselves, and that their Executors, Administrators, and Assigns, shall be reimbursed, of the said Two Hundred Pounds, together with Interest for the same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for so long Time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be forborn, out of the Receipts of the Excise, by Ordinance of the 11th of September, 1643, next after other Assignments already made on those Receipts shall be first satisfied; for which Reimbursement of Principal and Interest, this Ordinance shall be their, the said Commissioners of Excise, or their Successors, sufficient Warrant and Discharge: And it is further Ordained, That the said Two Hundred Pounds, by the Commissioners of Excise advanced and lent for the Use aforesaid, shall be paid unto the said Major General Skippon, or his Assigns by him sufficiently authorized thereunto, whose Receipt or Receipts shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Commissioners of Excise, and every of them, for the said Two Hundred Pounds in that Behalf."

Ordinance for the Commissioners of Excise to re-pay themselves 5000l. advanced for the Service of the West.

"Whereas, by Order of Parliament of the 2d of June, 1645, Twelve Thousand Pounds was assigned upon the Receipts of the Excise, upon the Ordinance of Parliament, dated the 11th of September, 1643, for the Service of the West; and whereas Thomas Foote Esquire, Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise and new Impost, upon Two several Ordinances, the one of the Sixth, and the other of the Ninth of June last, did advance Three Thousand Pounds of the said Twelve Thousand Pounds; and whereas Thomas Foote Esquire, Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise and new Impost, have now advanced and lent Five Thousand Pounds more towards the said Service, in Part of the said Ordinance 2 Junii aforesaid: Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners of Excise shall and may reimburse themselves, and that their Executors, Administrators, and Assigns, shall be reimbursed, the said Five Thousand Pounds, together with Interest for the same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for so long Time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be satisfied, out of such Intervals of Receipts as shall happen when other Assignments already made shall not happen to fall due, or, in Default thereof, then in such Course and Order as the said recited Ordinance, of the 2d of June, 1645, shall succeed; for which Reimbursement of Principal and Interest, this Ordinance shall be their, the said Commissioners of Excise or new Impost, and their Successors, sufficient Warrant and Discharge: And it is further Ordained, That the said Five Thousand Pounds, by the Commissioners so advanced and lent as aforesaid, shall be paid unto Michaell Herring, of London, Merchant, for the Use aforesaid; whose Receipt shall be a sufficient Discharge unto the said Commissioners of Excise, and every of them, in that Behalf."

Capt. Swanley sent for Home, to answer for his Conduct as Admiral in the Irish Seas; and some Removes made in the Command at Sea, in Consequence of his being superseded.

The Earl of Warwicke reported, "That he was Ordered, by the Committee of the Admiralty and Cinque Ports, to acquaint this House with these Particulars following:

"That, upon Informations given that Committee, against Captain Ric'd Swanley, by several Letters and otherwise, touching his Carriage in the Place of Admiral of the Irish Seas, the Committee have thought fit to send for him Home, to answer the said Complaints, and vindicate his own Reputation; that Captain Moulton is sent to Milford-haven, to undertake his Charge, till further Order; and Captain Crowther to supply the Place of Captain of The Happy Entrance, and Vice Admiral of the Irish Seas, in the room of Captain Wm. Smyth, deceased: That the presenting of these Proceedings to the Parliament was forborn at the Time, it being conceived necessary to carry the same with all Advantage for Secrecy; and that the Vice Admiral of the Fleet is sent to Milford-haven, for the settling of Affairs there, upon the Change of that Command."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9a cras.

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