House of Lords Journal Volume 7
27 September 1645

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 27 September 1645', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 7: 1644 (1767-1830), pp. 603-606. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33408 Date accessed: 25 July 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, 27 die Septembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Delmy.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Essex.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Northumb.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Howard.

Letters from L. Wharton.

The Speaker acquainted the House, "That he had received a Packet of Letters from the Lord Wharton;" which were read, as follow. (Here enter them.)

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, to the Message sent Yesterday.

Woodhouse to be sent up from Plymouth, and the Cause of his Imprisonment.

Ordered, That Serjeant Kettleby Woodhouse, imprisoned at Plymouth, shall, immediately upon Sight (fn. *) hereof, have Liberty to come and appear before the Lords in Parliament; and that the Cause of his Commitment be certified; and the Mayor, Committee, and other Officers of the said Town, are to conform themselves to this Order.

Ordinance for supplying the Army in Ireland by Mr. Davis.

The Ordinance for supplying the Army in Ireland by Mr. John Davies, was read the Second Time, and Agreed to, with the Addition of Christopher Savery of Shilston Esquire, in the County of Devon, and Phillip Cooker and Ric'd Wood Esquires.

Commissioners to treat about the Restitution of some Ships taken by the King of Denmark and for reducing some exorbitant Customs exacted in Ports in the Baltic

The Petition of the Governor, Assistants, and Fellowship of Merchant Adventurers, and of the Governor, Assistants, and Fellowship of Eastland Merchants, was read, shewing, "That the Commissioners lately employed by both Houses of Parliament, to procure Restitution of the King of Denmarke for Five full laden Ships of the Petitioners, consiscated at Gluckstoet and in The Sound, and to settle a Free Trade through His Streams, being above Three Months since returned, with an Agreement of that King, approved by the Council of His Kingdoms, for the Petitioners Accommodation in both those Particulars, which Agreement, together with a Credential Letter to both Houses, remaining ever since with this Honourable Committee, (fn. *) without any special Notice of the same, or Approbation thereof hitherto expressed, and One of the said Commissioners having Occasion speedily to re pass through The S und, of whom some Return touching the ratisying of the said Treaty will be expected,

"They humbly beseech, to take some Course, that, the said Dispatches being communicated to both Houses, an Answer of the said Letter may be returned, and the Agreement kept upon Record in safe Custody, and an Intimation given thereof, as well to the Court of Admiralty as to other Courts which the same may concern, to prevent all Errors and Mistakes which may otherwise happen to the Prejudice of that Treaty, and that the said Commissioners may, in the Behalf of The Eastland Com pany, have Credentials and full Power, to treat with the Marquis of Brandenburgh, and other States within The Baltique Seas, for a more Settlement of Trade in those Parts, and the Reduction of many newly enhanced Customs, being a great Burthen to the Subjects and Trade of these Kingdoms"

It is Ordered, That this Petition be sent down to the House of Commons, and their Concurrence desired, that the Commissioners may have such further Power to treat as is desired.

Capt Kettleby's Petition for a Maintenance in Prison

Upon reading the Petition of Captain Kettleby, desiring some Relief, he being in Want in Prison It is Ordered, To be communicated to the House of Commons

L Blanev desires to raise a Troop of Horse for Ireland

Upon reading the Petition of the Lord Blany (reported from the Committee for Ireland), desiring, "That he may be enabled by (fn. †) them to raise a Troop of Horse, only desiring Arms, and to be admitted into Pay, as other Troops are in the Kingdom of Ireland"

It is Ordered, That this Petition be recommended to the House of Commons

Col Davis Petition, for a Maintenance

Upon reading the Petition of Colonel Davies, desiring some Maintenance for his Livelihood It is Ordered, To be recommended to the House of Commons especially

Papers from the Committee for the Admiralty

The Earl of Warwicke reported from the Committee for the Admiralty Two Papers, which were read, as follow

Die Veneris, 26 September, 1645

At the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty

Concerning Capt Kettle by a Exchange for Capt Bransby and Sparls

Whereas, upon a Reference from the Committee of the Navy to the Commissioners of the Navy, the said Commissioners have reported their Opinion, That they conceive it fit to exchange Captain Kettleby, a Prisoner here, for Joseph Bransby, late Commander of The Scout Frigatt in the Parliament's Service, and now Prisoner at Castle Cornett, near Guersey, and forasmuch as this Committee conceives that the same will be with some Disadvantage, in regard Captain Kettleby hath been Admiral of Ireland, and Joseph Bransby hath been but Commander of the said Frigate, and that the Exchange both of him and of Captain Rob't Sparkes, late Commander of the Vessel in the Parliament's Service, which was taken by the Enemy, being now a Prisoner in Cornwall, may be reasonably demanded for the said Captain Kettleby"

Ordered, That the same be reported from this Committee to both Houses of Parliament, and their Pleasure thereupon prayed

Ordered, To be communicated to the House of Commons, and desired, that either that the said Captain Kettleby may be exchanged, or else he may be allowed some Maintenance for his Livelihood

Die Veneris, 26 Sept 1645

At the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty

For the Secretaries to this Committee to have a Salary

Whereas the Ordinance whereby this Committee is established expires on Wednesday next, Ordered, That it be recommended to both Houses of Parliament, from this Committee, That their Secretaries, Will Jessop and Rob't Coytmore (recommended to that Service by the House of Commons), may be jointly allowed a Salary, from the Time they have attended that Charge, according to the Proportion allowed by Ordinance of Parliament, to Mr Thomas Smyth, Secretary for the Admiralty, under the Commissioners formerly appointed by Parliament, being for himself and his Clerks Two Hundreds per Annum"

Ordered, That this be recommended to the House of Commons

Message to the H C about it, and the following Particulars

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr Page

To desire their Concurrence in the Exchange for Captain Kettleby, or else to give him Allowance

2 To deliver the Paper to them, concerning the Secretaries of the Commissioners of the Admiralty

3 To deliver the Petition of Colonel Davies, with Recommendations

4 The Petition of the Eastland Merchants, with the Sense of this House upon it

5 The Order for sending One Hundred and Fifty Musketeers to the Isle of Guernsey

6 The Ordinance concerning the Supply of the Armies in Ireland, and desire Concurrence in the Additions

7 To deliver the Lord Blaynie's Petition to them, with Recommendations

8 To desire Concurrence in the Pass for the Lady Buckburst to go to Oxford

Message from thence, for a Thanks giving

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr Recorder of London

To desire Concurrence, in keeping Thursday next a Day of Thanksgiving, for the good Success of the Forces under Major General Poyntzs, &c

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That (fn. *) this House agrees to the keeping of Thursday next a Day of Thansgiving, as is desired.

Preachers at the Thanksgiving.

Ordered, That Mr. Ash and Mr. Jasper Hickes be appointed to preach in the Abbey Church on Thursday next, the Day of Thanksgiving, before the Peers; and to preach both in the Morning.

Letter from the Committee in Scotland, that they have not yet been able to procure a Meeting with the Scots Commissioners.

For the Lord Gray of Warke, Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore, at Westm. These.

Haste, Haste, Post Haste.

P. Wharton.

May it please your Lordships,

I have herein sent your Lordships the Copies of ours of the 18th to the Lords of Scotland, with the Answer thereunto: We know not what we could have done more than we have for a Meeting; and yet by these last we find no further Engagement for the Certainty of the Time than we have divers Times had, which hitherto have not succeeded. This hath occasioned us to go to Newcastle and the Counties adjacent, there to do the best Service we may; and we have sent a Dispatch this Day to the Scotish Lords, which I shall not need to repeat, because it is here inclosed. Upon these Uncertainties we stand, and shall expect the Commands of the House concerning our longer Stay or Return; which is all I have at the present, and rest

Barwicke, Sept. 22th, 1645.

Your Lordships

Most humble Servant,

"P. Wharton."

Letter from them to the Scots Commissioners there, with an Account of the Taking of Bristol, and requesting a Meeting with them.

Right Honourable,

We have this Day, by an Express from London, received the good News of the General's taking Bristoll; the Particulars we transmit unto your Lordships here inclosed, having likewise a Confirmation thereof by Letters.

We have thought fit, after so long Stay here upon your Lordships Desires, to dispatch this Bearer purposely unto you, that we may have a speedy Meeting with those appointed by the Parliament of Scotland to treat with us; otherwise we intend some (fn. †) Time this next Week to take our Journey Southward; of which we thought fit to give your Lordships Notice, and rest

Berwicke, Sept. 18th, 1645.

Your Lordships

Truly affectionate Friends, and humble Servants,

P. Wharton.
H. Vane. Tho. Hatcher.
Rob. Goodwin.

For the Right Honourable the Lord Marquis of Argyle, the Earl of Crawford Lyndsay, and the rest of the Committee of States of Scotland. These.

Vera Copia.

"Will'm Rowe, Secr. Comiss."

Another Letter, repeating their Request for a Meeting, and desiring to see their Commission from the Parliament of Scotland, authorizing them to treat.

"Right Honourable,

"After so many earnest Letters and Desires to your Lordships for a Certainty of Time of Meeting, and so many Letters and Promises from you from Time to Time that it should be within few Days, we had well hoped that some Days this Week (which is the Sixth since our coming hither) we should have had a Meeting; and the rather, because we gave you Notice in our last of our Resolution to take our Journey Southwards, if it were not speedy; but by your Lordships last we find no Probability of any this Week, nor any Time after assigned when, but that it is left as much at large as ever: This hath occasioned us to repair to Newcastle and the adjacent Counties, there to do what Service we can in this Interim; and we have again sent this Messenger to your Lordships, with our earnest Desire, that you would give us a Meeting here some certain Day the next Week, or sooner if possible; according to which Appointment, we shall not fail, God willing, at the Day and Hour appointed, to attend such as are authorized by the Parliament of Scotland to treat and conclude with us: And in the mean Time we desire your Lordships to send us a Copy of the Commission granted by the Parliament of Scotland, upon Occasion of our being sent to them from the Parliament of England; which we desire the rather to see, because we have already shewed you our Commission, and for that your Lordships wanted Power at our last Meeting (contrary to your own Expectations), and that it then remained doubtful to your Lordships in whom the conclusive Power was lodged, which it behooveth us to know before we enter upon the Treaty. As we shall receive Satisfaction from your Lordships in the Time of Meeting and the Power of the Commission, we shall accordingly dispose of ourselves, and rest

22th of Sept. 1645.

Your Lordships
"Truly affectionate Friends and Servants,
P. Wharton. H. Vane. W. Armyne.
"Tho. Hatcher. Rob. Goodwin.

"Vera Copia,

"Will'm Rowe, Secr. Comiss."

Throckmorton's Petition against Burbunch, Chaundler, and Briscoe, for seizing his Goods for Arrears of Assessment.

To the Right Honourable the Lords in Parliament assembled.

The humble Petition of John Throckmorton;

Sheweth,

That this Morning, one John Burbunch, George Chaundlor, and Edward Briscoe, rushed into your Petitioner's House, and, in his Absence, without so much as speaking to his Wife, being thereto desired by his Servant, seized upon some of his Goods, under a Pretence of some Payments arrear, which he never refused to pay; yet, out of Malice to your Petitioner, and to put a Disgrace upon him before his Neighbours, have carried away his said Goods, contrary to the Privilege due unto all such as give their Attendance upon this Honourable House (their Goods being privileged, by your Lordships own Orders, as well as their Persons).

His most humble Suit is, that the Bodies of the said (fn. *) Furbunch, Chaundlor, and Briscoe, may be attached (there being Affidavit of the Truth hereof), to answer their said Contempt to this Honourable House; and whatsoever it be that the Petitioner is assessed at, he will willingly pay.

And ever pray, &c.

"Jo. Throckmorton."

Affidavit of the Fact.

Martha Ransford saith, That one John Furbunch, George Chaundlor, and Edward Briscoe, violently rushed into the House of Mr. John Throckmorton, on the 27th of this Instant September; and, thrusting her from the Door, (fn. †) they took up a Pair of Brass Andirons of the said Mr. Throckmorton (her Master), and carried them away out of his Houses, not withstanding this Deponent told the said Furbunch, Chaundlor, and Briscoe, that they might speak with her said Master at the Abbey Church (where he then was) after Sermon, or at the Parliament Office, and that the affirmed he would pay any Thing that they would demand of him, and desired them to speak with his Wife before they took away his said Goods; but they utterly refused both, and carried away the said Goods without speaking to either of them.

The Mark of M Ransford.

Jur. 27 Die Septembris, 1645.

"John Page."

Burbunch & al. to be attached.

Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament, That the Gentleman Usher attending this House, his Deputy or Deputies, shall forthwith attach, and bring (fn. *) before their Lordships, the Bodies of John Furbunch, George Chaundlor, and Edward Briscoe, to answer such Matters as stand there charged against them; whereof you may not fail.

To the Gentleman Usher attending this House, or his Deputy or Deputies, and to &c."

Order for a Public Thanksgiving for the late Successes.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Thursday next shall be set apart, for a Day of Public Thanksgiving unto Almighty God, for His great Mercies and Blessings upon the Parliament's Forces under Colonel General Poynts, against the King's Forces, near Chester, on Wednesday last, September 24th, 1645, and likewise for God's great Mercy upon the Parliament's Forces, in the taking of Bristoll, Devizes, the Success in Pembrookesheir given to the Forces under Major General Langherne, and for God's great Mercy in Scotland, in all Churches and Chapels of London and Westm. and within the Lines of Communication, and on Thursday next come Fortnight in all other Parts of the Kingdom; and Alderman Penington is appointed to desire the Lord Mayor to give timely Notice hereof to the Ministers of the Churches and Chapels within the Lines of Communication: And it is further Ordered, That the Members of the House of Commons, of the several and respective Counties, do send Copies of this Order to the several respective Committees of the several Counties, to the End that they may be so dispersed, that the Counties may take timely Notice hereof, that the Day may be kept with that Observation as is due to so great Blessings."

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