House of Lords Journal Volume 8
28 November 1645

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 28 November 1645', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 14-16. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33893 Date accessed: 30 August 2014.


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Die Veneris, 28 die Novembris.

Prayers, by Mr. Sallawey.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Essex.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. North.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Dacres.

Committee for Cumberland.

The Names to be added to the Committee for Cumberland, was read, (fn. *) and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Bristol Ministers.

The Ordinance for the Ministers for Bristoll, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Mortimer to be a Searjeant at Arms.

Ordered, That James Mortimor shall be presented, to be a Serjeant at Arms, in the Place of Serjeant Francis, who is lately dead.

The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported a Paper from the Committee of both Kingdoms; which was read.

Die Jovis, 27 Nov. 1645.

Letter from Mr. Strickland.

At the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Derby House.

Ordered, That the Letter of Mr. Strickland, from The Hague, of the 30/20; Nov. be reported to both Houses; and that it is the Opinion of this Committee, That it be recommended to the Committee of the Admiralty, to take Care of the Sea Affairs.

Scots Commissioners to have Duplicates of intercepted Papers.

"That it be reported to both Houses (and first to the House of Lords), That the Scotts Commissioners may have Duplicates of all such intercepted Letters and Papers as concern the Scottish Affairs."

Ordered accordingly.

Mr. Strickland's Letter.

Mr. Strickland's Letter was read. (Here enter it.)

Ordered, That this Letter be communicated to the House of Commons; and their Concurrence desired, that it may be recommended to the Care of the Admiralty, to have Care of the Sea Affairs.

The Lord Wharton reported Two Letters sent to them:

Mr. Kyrle recommended by the Counties of Monmouth and Gloucester for an Employment:

1. A Letter from some Gentlemen of the County of Monmouth, to desire that Mr. James Kyrle, One of the Committee, who first delivered Monmouth into the Parliament's Hands, and hath since shewed himself very active, faithful, and serviceable, in reducing both Monmouth and those Garrisons lately under the Power of the Enemy: Their humble Request to their Lordships is, that you will be pleased to confer such a Trust and Command upon him, as that he may be encouraged to continue his Assistance and Service to us in these Parts.

Monmouth, 22 Nov. 1645.

"Fra. Williams.
"Jo. Walter. Wm. Jones.
"Tho. Hughes."

Another Letter from some of the Committee of Gloucester, to the same Purpose, was read:

It was reported, further, "That the Committee of both Kingdoms were informed, that the said Mr. James Kyrle, about Two Years age, was active for the Enemy; which they thought fit to acquaint this House withall."

Message to the H. C. with Mr. Strickland's Letter.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

To deliver to them the Letter from Mr. Strickland; and desire their Concurrence, that it be recommended to the Committee of the Admiralty, to take Care of the Sea Affairs.

L. Fairfax & al. Petition.

A Petition of Wm. Viscount Fairefaix, Charles, John, Nicholas, Phillip, Mary, and Katherine Fairefax, was read: (Here enter it.) And it is Ordered to be recommended to the House of Commons; which accordingly was done, by Doctor Heath, &c.

Form of a Pardon for Delinquents.

Ordered, That the Earl of Northumb. Lord Viscount Say & Seale, Lord Mountague, and E. Nottingham, are added to the Committee for the Ordinance for the Form of the Pardon to be given to Delinquents; and the Committee to meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine a Clock.

Bristol Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning Bristoll shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Committee for Cumberland.

Resolved, &c. That the Houses do nominate and approve of Mr. Thomas Curipen, Mr. Peter Mowson, Mr. Nicholas Mowson, Mr. Miles Halton, and Mr. Michaell Studholme, to be added to the Committee for Cumberland, in the Ordinance of the 20th of June for the Northern Association; and that they have full Power and Authority, as if their Names had been inserted in the said Ordinance."

Ordinance concerning Ministers for Bristol.

It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Committee of Parliament appointed for the City of Bristoll shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to present unto both Houses of Parliament what Churches and what Number are sufficient, and most convenient and necessary, for the City of Bristoll, and how and in what Manner the same may be lawfully united; and farther to present unto both Houses of Parliament, how, and in what Manner, a Competency of Maintenance may be raised for Ministers in that Place, either by a just and indifferent Taxation to be made upon the Inhabitants of that Place, or by allotting some Proportion out of the Revenues of the Bishop or Dean and Chapter of that Cathedral, to the Intent that a speedy Course may be settled by the Parliament, for establishing godly and learned Ministers in that City."

Mr. Strickland's Letter from The Hague, about allowing the Spaniards to raise Men here; concerning the Difference between the Dutch and Portuguese, &c.

Right Honourable,

The Letters of both Houses and Committee I delivered to The States Generall and The States of Holland: They will send Copies (fn. *) to the Admiralty, and recommend the Expedition of the Affair. I hope it will go well with them of Hull and Yorke. Dewytt is in The Hage. My Lords, The States are informed, by their Ambassador, that the Parliament suffers the Spaniard to take up Men in London, to serve against them and the French in Flanders; many of the Wellaffected here are scandalized at it, as if the Parliament inclined as much to favour the Interests of Spaine as The Royall. They speak about the Parliament's maintaining Trade with Dunkerke, their Enemy; yet forbid them the Trade of the Havens in the King's Hands.

It is like there will be ill Blood betwixt the King of Portugall and this State; for the Portugaies in The West Indies, in Brazill, have taken a strong Fort, called St. Austin's Fort, from The States; and some say Two Ships loaden with Arms sent from hence. The Portugall Ambassador here will not seem to know any Thing of it, nor will avow it as the King's Act: In the mean Time, The West India Company are preparing Ships their Relief, and have Fifty Thousand Pounds to do it withall. Your Honours will see the Story more fully by the inclosed Letter, printed here.

My Lords, There is a constant Report, believed by many, that a Fleet of Twenty-eight great Ships shall lie upon our Seas for the King of France. This is of great Concernment; and though I will not write it for a Certainty, nothing yet being acted in it by the State, yet I have heard it spoken of by Men of Quality, so as I durst not but advertise your Honours of it, as a Thing which is jealous; but, if the Ships be to be made, or bought here, as some report they are, it will give Jealousy to others as well as to us. I shall give Advice as I shall have further Occasion hereafter. I hear from good Hands, that not only France and Sweden, but most of the Princes of Germany, declare themselves favourable for the Interests of the Elector's Family; and some think the Sweeds and the Emperor might more easily agree than the House of Austria and the French.

The Prince of Orenge came Home last Night late, or this Morning, for it was after Midnight when he came into The Hagh. I am informed that Sir John Henderson, that come out of Denmarke, to was here; that he faith he will go into Scotland from hence, and that the King will speedily make a Peace with the Parliament of England or Scotland, but not with both; this is his Desire, not Opinion. I am,

Hoge, Nov. 30/20;th, 1645.

Right Honourable,
Your most humble Servant,
Walter Strickland.

For the Right Honourable the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Darby House.

L. Fairfax's, & al. Petition, to make a Settlement for Ly. Fairfax, and the younger Children, and about the Composition for his Marriage.

To the Right Honourable the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled.

The humble Petition of William Viscount Fairefax, Charles, John, Nicholas, Phillip, Mary, and Katherine Fairefax;

Shewing,

That Thomas Viscount Fairefax, being seised in Fee of divers Manors, Lands, and Tenements, in the County of Yorke, did, 6° Car. suffer a (fn. *) Recovery of the same, which was declared by Indenture to be to the Use of the said Thomas Viscount Fairefax for Life; the Remainder to Sir Thomas Layton Knight, and Robert Stapleton Esquire, and their Heirs, for the Natural Life of Thomas Fairefax, Eldest Son of the said Viscount; and, from and after his Decease, to your Petitioner William Fairefax, now Viscount Fairefax, and the Heirs Males of his Body, with divers Remainders over; the Reversion in Fee to Thomas Viscount Fairefax, which is since descended upon your Petitioner William.

That, after such Settlement made, Thomas Viscount Fairefax, your Petitioner's Grandfather, died; and the said Manors and Lands, according to the said Settlement, came to Sir Thomas Layton, as Survivor, who entered, and was seised during the Life of Thomas the Son.

That the said Thomas Viscount Fairefax the Son, 24 Sept. 17° Car. died, leaving his Lady and Six younger Children altogether unprovided of Portions and Maintenance.

That your Petitioner William, at the Time of his said Father's Decease, was of the Age of Twelve Years, whose Wardship, after Offices found, was granted to Ferdinando Lord Fairefax, Sir Phillip Stapleton, and others, and, by Composition with the now Master of the Court of Wards, the Sum of Three Thousand Pounds was imposed for his Marriage, of which Five Hundred Marks is paid.

Your Petitioner William Viscount Fairefax, being sensible of the sad Condition of his Mother, Brothers, and Sisters, is willing, and makes it his humble Suit, that Walton House, and Six Hundred Pounds per Annum of his Estate, may be settled, for so long Time as your Honours shall think fit, upon Edward Lord Howard of Esericke, Ferdinando Lord Fairefax, his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairefax, Sir Phillip Stapleton, Sir Thomas Widdrington, and Sir Thomas Layton, Knights, for the Maintenance of your Petitioner's Mother, his Four Brothers, and Two Sisters, and towards the raising them Portions, in such Proportions as the said Trustees, or any Three of them, shall think fit.

And all your Petitioners humble Suit is, That Two Thousand Six Hundred and Sixty-six Pounds, Thirteen Shillings, and Four Pence, Residue of the said Composition-money for your Petitioner William's Marriage, which will not become payable till your Petitioner William comes of Age, being a Purchaser in his whole Estate, nor then until certain Days limited by Stallment thereof in the Court of Wards, may be assigned to the Trustees, for the Portions of Mary and Katherin your Petitioners; which Sum, though it will be many Years raising out of the Estate, yet it will be a great Advancement unto them (who are otherwise destitute of all Hope of Preferment), and oblige the Family of your Petitioners for their Subsistence and Being, who, without your Compassions, are utterly ruined.

And your Petitioners joint and humble Prayer is, that your Honours, for so good a Work, will enable the same to be done by an Ordinance of Parliament.

And your Petitioners shall pray, &c.

Wm. Fairefax.
Charles Fairefax.
John Fairefax.
Nicholas Fairefax.
Philip Fairfax.
Mary Fairefax.
Katherin Fairefax."

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