Die Lunæ, 15 die Decembris.
Prayers, by Mr. Foxcroft.
Comes Manchester, Speaker this Day.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer to the Message:
1. That to the Pass for the Four Colonels, and for
the Committee concerning the Letters to meet on Saturday Afternoon, they (fn. *) agree: Concerning the other
Part of the Scotch Paper, and the Petitions of the Waiters
of The Tower, and the Petition of Colonel Serle, they
have taken them into Consideration.
Message from thence, with Votes about Persons coming from the King's Quarters.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Sam. Browne:
To let their Lordships know, that they being informed that this Town is in (fn. †) Danger, by reason of the
Numbers of Persons that come out of the King's Quarters under Pretence of coming in to compound for
their Delinquency; for preventing of which Mischief,
the House of Commons have made certain Votes, wherein their Lordships Concurrence is desired.
The Votes were read, and Ordered to be taken into
Consideration To-morrow Morning.
The Answer returned was:
That this House (fn. †) will take this Message into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their
L. Grey & al. and Mr. Finch & al.
Next, the House heard the Counsel on both Sides,
(fn. †) in the Cause of the Lord Grey of Warke and others,
against Mr. Fynch and Mr. Twisden, concerning a Dividend which the Plaintiffs would have out of the Estate
of Sir John Fynch lately deceased:
But the Defendants alledging, "That the Ordinary
had no Power for to distribute it, being contrary
to the fundamental Laws of the Kingdom, since
the Statute of 31 H. III. and that the Judgement
in the King's Bench cannot be reversed (fn. ‡) but by
Writ of Error."
And the Plaintiffs alledged, "That they had no
other Remedy but in this House, in regard that the
Jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Court is taken away
by the Statute made this Parliament."
Upon this, all Parties (fn. ||) were commanded to withdraw.
And this House took the same into Consideration;
and the Opinion of the House was, upon Advice had
with the Judges, "That the Jurisdiction in the Ecclesiastical Courts is not taken away by that Statute,
but only the coercive Power."
Therefore it is Ordered, That this Cause shall
be dismissed this House, to the ordinary Course of
Delinquents, for Contempt of the Order in Jhannes's Cause, to be no further proceeded against.
Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Ihannes; shewing,
That a Warrant being issued out of this House, for
the Attachment of Eight Delinquents, Four of
which Delinquents have been sentenced by this
House, but the others not yet attached Now, forasmuch as the Petitioner hath made an End with the
Defendants, he desires there may be a Suspension of
putting the said Order into any further Execution
for the apprehending the sud Persons, and that all
others not already sentenced may be no further proceeded against for this Business"
Which this House Ordered the same accordingly
A Paper was reported from the Committee of the
Admiralty, was read, and approved of, and Ordered
to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence, which was accordingly sent down, by Doctor
Aylett and Doctor Heath (Here enter it)
"Die Sabbati, 13 Decembris, 1645
At the Committee of Lords and Commons for
the Admiralty and Cinque Ports.
Paper from the Admiralty Committee for Mr Brown to be contracted with, for Ordnance for Three Frigates
"Whereas, upon View of a Paper delivered in by
the Commissioners of the Navy, concerning Eightysix Pieces of cast Iron Drakes, for the Three Frigates
ordered to be built for the State, this Committee directed a Copy to be delivered to Mr Browne the
Gun founder, that he might set down his Prices,
and Times of Payment, and whereas, by Papers delivered into this Committee on Thursday last, he demands for Four Demy Cannons of Thirty three Hundred Weight apiece, Fifty eight Demy Culverins of
Twenty-five Hundred Weight apiece, and Twentyfour Demy Culverins of Seventeen Hundred Weight
and One Half apiece, after the Rate of Thirty-two
Shillings per C't which amounts unto Three Thousand Two Hundred and Three Pounds, Four Shillings, and for Shot for the said Pieces, Two Hundred
Ninety-seven Pounds, Eight Shillings, and Six Pence,
humbly praying, that he may have One Half in Hand,
and the other Half by Monthly Payments at Four
Hundred Pounds a Month, and forasmuch as Provision thereof may be made with much more Advantage if Mr Browne may have speedy Order to go
about them Ordered, That it be recommended from
this Committee to both Houses of Parliament, to
give Order to the Committee of the Navy, to contract with Mr Browne for the Price of the said Ordnance, as also for the Times of Payment
"W Jlsopp, Secretary"
House adjourned till 9a cras