DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 16 die Maii.
PRAYERS.
The Lord Privy Seal was appointed to sit
as Speaker this Day.
Bucks Militia will be ready next Monday.
The Lord Paget reported to this House, "That the
County of Bucks will be ready to put the Ordinance
of the Militia into Execution this Day Sevennight; and
the Lord Paget desired Leave to be present there
himself, to see it done accordingly;" which this House
Ordered.
Hampshire Militia will be ready at Whitsuntide.
The Earl of Pembrooke acquainted this House, "That
Hampshire will be ready to put the Ordinance of the
Militia into Execution by Whitsontide next;" which
this House Ordered the same accordingly.
St. Gregory's Church to be built.
Ordered, That the Parish Church of St. Gregories,
near St. Paul's Church, shall (fn. *) be (fn. †) speedily built; for
this Purpose, a Thousand Pounds shall be borrowed out
of the Monies received for the repairing of St. Paul's,
remaining now in the Chamber of London, for to be
employed for that Purpose.
Letter from the King to the Speaker, with a Message about the Bill for raising 10,000 Men for Ireland.
The Lord Privy Seal (who was appointed this Day
to sit as Speaker) acquainted the House, "That he received [ (fn. ‡) a Letter] by the Lord Viscount Faulkland, directed to the Lord Keeper, or to the Speaker of this
House for the Time being;" which was Ordered
to be opened, and read, in hæc verba: videlicet,
(Here enter it.)
CHARLES R.
Right Trusty and Well-beloved Counsellor, We
greet you well. Our Will and Command is, That
you forthwith deliver, to be read in Our House of
Peers, and afterwards communicated to Our House of
Commons, Our Message inclosed, concerning a Bill
sent from Our said Parliament, by Way of an Instruction, for levying within this Our Kingdom Ten
Thousand Men, for the Service of Ireland; for which
this shall be your Warrant.
"Given at Our Court at Yorke."
Yorke, the 13th of May, 1642.
Ordered, That this Letter, with the Message inclosed, shall be communicated presently to the House of
Commons; and accordingly it was sent down to the
House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Doctor
Littleton.
Sir Robert Mansell and Briscoe.
Ordered, That the Business between Sir Robert
Mansell and Brisco, etc. shall be heard in this House on
Saturday next; and Sir Robert Mansell to have Notice
hereof.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Pierpointe:
Message from the H. C. to amend the Impeachment against Judge Berkley.
That heretofore the House of Commons did exhibit
an Impeachment against Judge Berkeley, of High Treason, and other great Misdemeanors: The Names of Two
Persons are mistaken; and the House of Commons desire that the same may be amended in the Record, as
John Overman to be made Tho. Overman, John Brookes
to be made Mathew Brookes.
To which Alterations this House agreed to, and Ordered, The Record should be amended accordingly.
Sir William Russell's Cause.
Ordered, That the Cause of Sir William Russell,
Baronet, for the reversing of a Decree formerly made
in the Chancery, is referred to the Lord Keeper.
Deputy Lieutenants.
Ordered, That this House approves of Mr. Peyton, to be Deputy Lieutenant of the County of Cambridge.
Staffordshire Petition.
A Petition was presented to this House, by divers
Gentlemen of the County of Stafford; which was read
in their Presence, in hæc verba: (Here enter it.)
Thanks to the Petitioners.
The House taking into Consideration what Answer
[ (fn. *) to give], and having resolved therein, they were called
in; and the Speaker gave them this Answer, by the Direction of the House: "That the Lords do accept very
well their Expressions of Affection, Duty, and Observance, to this House, and the Good of the Kingdom;
for which their Lordships return them hearty Thanks
for the same, and will take their Petition into speedy
Consideration."
Asser, &c. and the E. of Sussex about a Fishery in Essex.
Upon reading the Petition of George Asser, Richard
French, and William Thompson, of the County of Essex
Fishermen; it is Ordered, That the Earl of Sussex shall
enjoy the quiet Possession of the Fishing, for so much
as he hath a Verdict for by Law; and for the other
Fishing as hath not been settled by Verdict, it shall
(fn. †) be mutually enjoyed as it hath been used formerly,
until the Right be tried by Law.
And concerning the Words which they were fetched
up for, the Petitioners were called in, and charged with
the Words, which they denied: Hereupon the House
Ordered, That these Persons should appear here again
on Wednesday come Fortnight; and the Parties that made
the Affidavits shall be here again at the same Time, to
make good what they have sworn against these Men;
and the Petitioners to be bailed upon their own Bonds,
to appear accordingly, or at any other Time as they
shall be summoned.
Message from the H. C. with an Answer to the King's Message, and a Declaration of both Houses.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir William Lewis, Knight; who presented to
their Lordships:
"1. Answer to the King's Messages.
"2. A Declaration of both Houses.
"If their Lordships doubt of any Matter of Fact,
they will be ready to give their Lordships Satisfaction therein.
"And if their Lordships give Approbation therein,
they desire it may be printed and published in all
the Parish Churches in this Kingdom."
Committees to meet, and search for Precedents concerning the Declaration in Answer to the King's Message.
The Lord Admiral reported from the Committee that
were appointed to prepare a Declaration in Answer to
the King's Message, "The Committees before they go
further, they desire to be satisfied in some Particulars:
To that Purpose the House of Commons have appointed certain Members of their House, that are
Lawyers, to look over Precedents, concerning the
Particulars." And this House appointed the Lord
Keeper, the Lord Privy Seal, the Lord Viscount Say et
Seale, the Lord Robartes, the Lord Wharton, and the
Lord Capell, to be Committees for this House, to search
Precedents in the same Cases.
The Queries were these:
"1. Whether the King hath ever given other Denial to any Public Bill offered unto Him by both
Houses of Parliament, than by suspending His Assent
for a Time?
"2. Whether a Petition brought up by the Commons, and approved of by the Lords, hath ever been
refused by the King?
"3. Whether any Person hath ever been adjudged
a Traitor for executing the King's Verbal Commands,
against the Laws of the Land?"
The King's Message:
The King's Message about the Bill for raising 10,000 Men for Ireland.
"His Majesty hath ever shewed Himself so ready to
do any Thing which may conduce to the Suppression of the barbarous Rebellion in Ireland, that He
doubts not but that all the World is very well satisfied of His true Zeal therein; and therefore doth not
conceive why the Parliament should desire a new Way
of levying of Men for that Service, especially since
His Majesty hath been so far from refusing any Levies,
that He hath offered formerly to levy Ten Thousand
Men, Voluntiers, in case the Parliament would promise
to pay them, which at that Time, if not refused, at
least was not accepted: Besides, you may well remember, that, when His Majesty declared to raise but
Two Thousand Foot and Two Hundred Horse for His
own Guard, upon His Intention of going into Ireland;
the Answer to that Particular was, That it was too
great an Addition of Charge for the Country, having already undertaken the Pay of so many Men:
And therefore His Majesty cannot but wonder what
Means they can now find to pay Ten Thousand, when
but a little while ago they thought Two Thousand
too much. But, seeing it is for so necessary a Work,
His Majesty will not examine the Reason of this sudden Alteration of Opinion, being glad that Means will
be so easily found for so great a Supply as this Ten
Thousand Men will be; only He cannot give Way
that the Manner of levying should be altered: Therefore He offers for to levy the abovenamed Number
in the old accustomed Way, under such Commanders
as His Parliament shall not have Cause to disapprove
of. But His Majesty holds it very inconvenient to
sign the Bill sent unto Him by Way of an Instruction,
not knowing the many Inconveniencies, that, upon
passing thereof, may happen. His Majesty likewise
takes Notice, that above Half of those Men, for which
He hath already given Commission, yet are unlevied, or
at least not gone; so that, if the Parliament like of
the old Way of levying (which His Majesty can conceive no Reason why they should eschew), He undertakes that there shall be no Time lost in the aforesaid Levies."
Adjourn.
Tertia post meridiem.
Post meridiem.
PRAYERS.
The Lord Privy Seal was appointed to be
Speaker for this Afternoon.
Letter from York to the Speaker, dated the 13th of May, 1642.
The Speaker acquainted this House, "That a Letter
was come from Yorke, directed to the Lord Keeper,
or the Speaker of this House for the Time being;"
which was commanded to be read, in hæc verba:
Divers Papers were read. (Here enter them.)
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about Letters from York.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Tho. Barrington, Baronet:
To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, touching Letters received from Yorke.
Ordered, That this House will give a Meeting
presently, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Littleton:
Message to the H. C. that the Lords will communicate all Letters of which the Commoners have not Duplicates.
To let them know, that their Lordships have likewise received Letters from Yorke; and if this House
have Letters which the House of Commons have not,
their Lordships will be ready to communicate it unto
them.
The Messengers return with this Answer:
Answer.
That the House of Commons will give a present
Meeting.
The Lord Privy Seal was appointed to report the
Conference.
House adjourned during (fn. *) Pleasure.
House resumed.
The Lord Privy Seal reported the Conference:
Conference reported.
That the House of Commons desired to keep a
Correspondency between both Houses, to prevent the
Mischiefs that are else likely to ensue.
"And [ (fn. †) the same Papers were read] at this Conference, as were this Day in this House before the
Conference."
Papers to be printed.
Ordered, That the Papers now read shall be printed
and published, in One Volume.
"The House of Commons observes with what Care,
Wisdom and Diligence, the Committees do proceed
in, and Notice to be taken of it, and Thanks to be
given them and the Sheriff for their good Service
herein."
Committee for a Conference to prevent the Meeting of the Horse at York.
Lords Committees appointed to join with a Committee of the House of Commons, to meet presently, to
consider of some Way to prevent the Meeting of the
Horse at Yorke on Friday next:
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A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Littleton:
Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with it.
To let the House of Commons know, that this
House hath appointed a Committee of Six Lords, to
join with a proportionable Number of the House of
Commons, to consider (fn. ‡)
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Gilbert Gherrard, Baronet:
Message from the H. C. with an Order for a Guard for the Parliament;
"1. An Order made by the House of Commons to
the Sheriffs of London, concerning some Trained
Bands to guard the Parliament."
Agreed to.
for Committees to meet about an Answer to the King's Message;
"2. To desire their Lordships, (fn. *) that the Committees
may meet with the Committee of the House of
Commons, to consider of the framing of an Answer
to the King, concerning the former Message, and
read this Day."
Agreed to.
and for the Lords to sit a while.
"3. To desire their Lordships to sit a while, for
they intend to bring up some Matter of Importance."
Agreed to.
Skippon to command the Guard for the Parliament.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament, That the former
Order of the Lords and Commons, of the 5th of
May, requiring the Sheriffs of London and Midd. to
send down a compleat Company of London or Midd.
under the Command of Serjeant Major Skippon, to
attend both Houses of Parliament, shall continue till
the said Houses shall take further Order therein."
The Answer returned was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House agrees with the House of Commons
in the aforesaid Order, and have appointed the Committee to meet presently; and that their Lordships will
sit a while, as is desired.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Crewe:
Message from the H. C. with an Order for 10,000£. for Dublin.
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Order,
which was read, in hæc verba:
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords [ (fn. †) and
Commons], that Ten Thousand Pounds shall (fn. ‡) be
forthwith issued and paid, out of the Monies come
in by the Adventurers of Ireland, unto Mr. Nicholas
Loftus, Deputy Treasurer at War, or to his Assigns,
to be sent to Dublyn, for the Service of the Soldiers; and that the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds
shall be re-paid unto the said Adventurers, out of the
First Monies that shall come in after that the Engagements already passed shall be satisfied."