DIE Veneris, videlicet, 7 die Octobris.
The Lord Grey was appointed to be Speaker
Betton not to be discharged.
Ordered, That Betton shall not be discharged until the Lord Chief Justice's Certificate be read.
Message from the H. C. for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to bring in his Instructions from the King.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Wm. Armin; which consisted of many Particulars:
1. To desire their Lordships to join with them, to
enjoin the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to bring in his
Instructions, which he hath from the King, concerning
the Affairs of Ireland, that they may be perused; for,
until (fn. *) then, they cannot Resolve when he shall go over.
To bring them in:
Ordered, That the Earl of Leycester, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, be required to bring in his Instructions,
which he hath from the King, concerning Ireland, into
this House, that so they may be communicated to both
Houses of Parliament, to whom He hath committed the
managing of the Affairs of Ireland.
And for the Lords to concur in the following Orders.
2. To desire Concurrence in this Vote, "That Captain Davison, and the rest of the Officers named in
the Petition, shall be paid all that is due unto them;
and the Adventurers of London are entreated to see
it done, and that these Officers are cashiered."
3. To desire Concurrence, that Edward Apsley, Herb't
Springett, Jo. Busbridge, Henry Pecke, Edward Higgins,
and Jo. Farrington, Esquires, shall be added to the
Names of the Persons mentioned in the Instructions for
4. An Order to Captain Ashley, to bring over the
Earl of Antrim out of Ireland. (Here enter it.)
5. An Order for giving Allowance to Mr. Wm.
Hawkins, Rob't Hawkins, and Ric'd Willis, who are
appointed to attend His Majesty's Commission for the
Affairs of Ireland, etc. (Here enter it.)
6. An Order concerning Subscriptions of Money and
Plate, for the Defence of the Kingdom. (Here enter it.)
7. An Order to pay Eleven Thousand One Hundred
and Nine Pounds, and Two Thousand Seven Hundred
Forty-two Pounds, Eight Shillings, and Four Pence, to
Eight Regiments of Foot, and Nine Troops of Horse,
of the Forces of Ulster. (Here enter it.)
8. An Order to send to Ireland, by Mr. Penyoer's
Procurement, Six Hundred Barrels of Gunpowder, and
Forty Tuns of Match, for Ireland. (Here enter it.)
9. Concerning bringing in Horse at Northampton.
(Here enter it.)
10. To desire Concurrence in a Vote passed the
House of Commons,
"That Oliver Pledall, Gentleman, in Respect of his
former Service, be recommended by this House to
the Lieutenant of Ireland, to have the Lieutenant's
Place of the Troop of Horse, under the Command
of Captain St. John, in Ireland."
The Answer returned was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House agrees with the House of Commons
in all these Particulars now brought up.
Paving Old Palace Yard.
Ordered, That Inigo Jones, the King's Surveyor,
shall attend this House To-morrow Morning; and then
this House will give him Directions for the Paving of The
Old Palace near this House.
Lady Villiers's Order for staying a Building that incommoded her House.
Upon reading the Petition of the Lady Villiers, complaining of "a Building near her House, in The Dean's
Yard, in Westm. which will be very prejudicial and
inconvenient to her House:" It is Ordered, That
the said Building shall be stayed, and no further Proceedings therein, until the Pleasure of this House be
further known, who will receive further Information
Message from the H. C. about the L. General's delivering a Petition from both Houses to the King.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Grey of Ruthin:
To desire a present Free Conference, concerning the
Alteration of the Third Vote, concerning the Lord
General's delivering of the Petition of both Houses to
The Answer returned was:
That this House will give a present Free Conference,
as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
Wall versus the Abp. of Cant. and Mr. Meggs, about the Church of Newington Butts.
Upon reading the Petition of George Wall, Clerk;
sheweth, "That the Archbishop of Cant. hath collated
one Mr. Meggs to the Patronage of the Church of
Newington Butts, in the County of Surrey, belonging
of Right to the See of Worcester; whereupon a Quare
Impedit was brought, and referred formerly by this
House to a Trial at the Common Law: Thereupon a
Quare Impedit, in the Court of Common Pleas, was
brought against the said Archbishop of Cant. whereunto the said Defendants have appeared."
Ordered, That the Archbishop of Cant. and Meggs
shall shew Cause to this House, why they should not accept of a Declaration from the said Wall, according to
the Desire of the Petition.
The House of Commons being come, in the Painted
Chamber; then this House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which
being ended, the House was resumed.
Conference about the L. General's delivering the Petition from both Houses to the King reported.
And the Lord Grey, Speaker, reported, "That the
House of Commons say, They cannot agree to the
Alteration of the Third Vote, concerning the Delivery of the Petition of both Houses to the King,
because they conceive the Instructions and Vote were
"And they think that the Word ["appoint"] excludes the Lord General's Delivery of it, and includes in within the King's Declaration; and therefore
adhere to the former Vote."
The House, taking these Reasons into Consideration,
conceived it a Matter of great Concernment to the
Peace and Good of the Kingdom, that the Petition
should (fn. *) be speedily delivered to His Majesty; therefore desired that the Vote might go as clear as (fn. *) it may;
and being of Opinion that some Exceptions and Doubts
may arise concerning it as it is now, they Resolved,
To propose this Alteration to the House of Commons:
"That the Lord General, by himself or such
Hands as he shall think fit, shall, with all convenient Speed, deliver the Petition unto His Majesty."
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the House of Commons, in the Painted
Chamber, and communicated this Alteration to them.
The Lords returning, the House was resumed.
Ordered, That this House shall sit at Three of the
Clock this Afternoon, to receive an Answer concerning
Message to the H. C. to fit P. M.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Aylett and Doctor Heath:
To let the House of Commons know, that this House
intends to sit this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, to receive an Answer concerning Alteration of the Third
Vote, concerning the Delivery of the Petition to the
Order for Allowance to the Servants attending the Commissioners for Ireland.
"Whereas, upon the humble Desire of Wm. Hawkins,
Rob't Chambers, and Ric'd Willis, Servants appointed to
attend His Majesty's Commissioners for the Affairs of
Ireland, That Allowance might be made unto them,
for their constant Attendance upon that Commission,
from the 6th Day of April, 1642, till the 16th of
Septemb. next following inclusively, being One Hundred and Sixty-three Days; the Lords and others
his Majesty's Commissioners for the Affairs of Ireland
thought fit, that these (fn. *) several and respective Allowances should be made unto them; videlicet, to the said Wm.
Hawkins, for his Labour and Attendance as Secretary,
for the Number of Days aforesaid, Eight Shillings
per Diem, Sixty-five Pounds, Four Shillings; unto the
said Rob't Chambers, for his Labour and Attendance
as Auditor, for the like Number of Days, Eight
Shillings per Diem, Sixty-five Pounds, Four Shillings;
and to the said Ric'd Willis, for his Attendance, by
himself and his Servants, the same Number of Days,
at the Rate of Five Shillings per Diem, Forty Pounds,
Fifteen Shillings; which Allowances were accordingly
approved of by the House of Commons, and by them
referred to the Committee of Adventurers, to consider how and from whence the said Monies should
be paid; who, taking the same into their Consideration, have declared their Opinion to be, That the
said Allowances shall be paid out of the Adventurersmoney, by the Treasurers appointed for the receiving
and issuing out thereof: It is therefore Ordained,
by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament,
That the several Sums and Allowances before mentioned shall be forthwith paid to the said Wm.
Hawkins, Rob't Chambers, and Ric'd Willis, accordingly, upon their several Acquittances; and that the
said Treasurers shall be allowed the same upon their
Order for seizing Horses and Arms of ill-affected Persons in Northamptonshire.
"Whereas divers Persons, not well-affected to the Peace
of this Kingdom, having been summoned, by Warrant
from the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of North'ton, to send in Horse, Arms, and Men, to be trained and
exercised at certain Times and Places by the said Warrants appointed, for the Safety and Defence of the said
County, in these Times of imminent Danger; yet the
said ill-affected Persons have refused to obey the said
Warrants, and to send in their Horse, Arms, and
Men, for the Purposes aforesaid; but reserve the same
(as may be justly suspected) in Readiness, rather for
the Disturbance than Preservation of the Peace of
the said County: For preventing of which Mischief,
the Lords and Commons in Parliament do hereby authorize the Committees appointed by both Houses of Par
liament for the Safety of that County, to seize the Arms
and Horses for Service of the belonging
to those Persons, and to put them into such Hands as
they shall think fit, and likewise to apprehend and
secure the Persons of such as are, or shall be justly
suspected to be, dangerous to the Peace of the said
Order for bringing over the Earl of Antrim.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons
in Parliament assembled, That Captain Ashley, Captain in the Ship Employment, shall carry over the
Committees appointed by both Houses now bound
for Ireland; and, having landed the Committees at
Dublin, is forthwith to repair to Carrickfergus, to take
in the Person of the Earl of Antrym, as Prisoner, and
to bring him to London: And it is further Ordered,
That the Lord General of the Scotts Forces in Ulster
be desired, from both Houses, to deliver into the
Hands and Custody of the said Captain Ashley, Captain
of The Employment, the Person of the Earl of Antrim,
now a Prisoner (fn. *) at Carrickfergus, to be by him brought
in safe Custody to London, and delivered up to the Parliament: It is further Ordered, That the said Captain Ashley do take over and convey in the said Ship
the Twenty Thousand Pounds now ready at Bristoll."
Order for taking Subscriptions upon the Propositions, in London and Westminster.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament, That those Persons that are appointed by the Parliament to take the
Subscriptions of such of the Inhabitants within the
City of London and the Suburbs thereof, and the Parishes adjacent, and within the City and Liberties of
Westm. as will contribute in Plate or Money, upon
the Propositions for the Defence of King and
Parliament and Kingdom, shall have Power, and are
hereby authorized, in their several Limits, to receive
such Money or Plate as shall be contributed upon the
said Propositions; and such Person or Persons that shall
receive any such Plate or Money shall give a Note,
under his or their Hands, unto the Party that shall
give or lend (if he requires the same), of the Receipt thereof, declaring the Sum and Proportion of
Money or Plate that shall be so given or lent; and
the Persons so appointed to take the said Subscriptions shall, within their several Parishes or Divisions,
have Power to name One of themselves, unto whom
all such Money and Plate that shall be collected by
the rest shall be paid, who shall pay over the same
to the Treasurers for Money and Plate formerly appointed, in The Guildhall, London, who shall thereupon
give Receipt, in Manner and Form formerly used,
unto the several Persons that shall so give or lend;
which Receipts are respectively to be delivered to the
Parties unto whom the same shall belong, if they shall
call for the same."
Order to pay Regiments of Foot and Horse in Ulster.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Treasurers for the
Adventurers-money for Ireland do forthwith pay, out
of the said Monies, unto the Treasurer at Wars for
Ireland, his Deputy or Assigns, the several Sums of
Eleven Thousand One Hundred Nine Pounds, and
Two Thousand Seven Hundred Forty-two Pounds,
Eight Shillings, and Four Pence, to the Eight Regiments of Foot, and Nine Troops of Horse, of the
Forces of Ulster, last taken into Pay, together with
Two Hundred Ninety Pounds, for the Chirurgeons
Chests, amounting in all to Fourteen Thousand One
Hundred Forty-one Pounds, Eight Shillings, and Four
Pence, mentioned in an Order of the 16th of September last, presented in a Report from the Commissioners
for the Affairs of Ireland, to be by the said Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, his Deputy or Assigns, forthwith paid unto Sir James Montgomery, Mr. Hill, and
Mr. Audley Mervin, by them to be distributed to the
rest of the Commanders of the aforesaid Regiments
and Troops, or to their Agents here, according to the
aforesaid Order of the 16th of September, being a
Month's Pay for the said Regiments and Troops;
and that an Acquittance, or Acquittances, under the
Hand of the Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, or his
Assigns, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the Treasurers for the Adventurers-money for Ireland, for so
much as they shall pay by virtue of this Order."
Order for Ammunition for Ireland.
"Whereas Mr. William Pennoyer, of London, Merchant, hath undertaken to provide, and send away
forthwith to Bristoll, for the Service of Ireland, Six
Hundred Barrels of good serviceable Gunpowder, and
Forty Tun of good Match: It is therefore this Day
Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament,
That the Receivers of the Adventurers-money for
Ireland shall forthwith pay the said William Pennoyer,
out of the Money of the said Adventurers, so much
Money as the said William Pennoyer shall make appear
to the Committee chosen in London, for the Adventurers of Ireland, to have really disbursed for the same,
with the Approbation of the Committee of Adventurers of the House of Commons, together with such
Allowance, for his Pains in buying and sending away
the said Gunpowder and Match, as the said Committee shall think reasonable: And whereas divers Suits
were heretofore prepared, to be sent to the Soldiers in
Ireland, Part whereof have been made Use of, it is
therefore likewise Ordered, That the said Committee shall take Care to make up the Remainder of the
said Suits Two Thousand Five Hundred Suits complete, and to send them to Dublin with all possible
Speed; and that the said Receivers shall likewise pay
to the said Committee so much Money as that Committee shall really disburse, for the compleating of the
said Suits as aforesaid: And it is lastly Ordered,
That the said Committee shall take Care to provide,
and send away to Bristoll, a proportionable Quantity
of Great Shot of all Sorts, and shall likewise provide
at Bristoll a proportionable Quantity of Musket, Carbine, and Pistol-bullets, all which Great and Small
Shot shall be sent unto such Places in Ireland, and in
such Proportions, as the Committee of Adventurers
shall direct; and the said Receivers shall also pay unto the said Committee so much Money as the said
Committee shall make appear to the Committee of
Adventurers to have been really disbursed for the
said Great and Small Shot."
Adjourn to 4a post meridiem.
The Lord Grey of Warke was appointed
Speaker this Afternoon.
Printer of Joyful and Welcome News from Shrewsbury to be discovered.
Ordered, That the Master and Wardens of the Company of the Stationers shall enquire who was the Printer
of a Book, intituled, Joyful and Welcome News from
Shrewsbury; and acquaint this House therewith.
Mr. Gage Leave to travel.
Ordered, That Mr. Gage, a Gentleman of Sussex,
shall have Leave to travel into France.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Reynolds:
Message from H. C. to impeach Mr. Brocas, for suffering Captain Legg to escape from the Gatehouse.
"That whereas one Captain Wm. Legg was committed, by the Committee for Safety of the Kingdom, to
The Gatehouse at Westm. there to remain close
Prisoner, being committed for levying War against
the King, which is High Treason by the Law; and
being committed to the safe Custody of one John
Broccas, he, the said John Broccas, hath permitted the
said Captain Wm. Legg to escape: For which he was
commanded, by the House of Commons, to accuse, and
did now, in the Name of the House of Commons,
(fn. *) and of all the Commons of England, impeach the said
John Broccas of High Treason: And he being now at
the Door, the House of Commons desire their Lordships would please to call him in, and that he may
presently (fn. *) answer to the said Impeachment."
Brocas at the Bar.
The Messengers of the House of Commons being
withdrawn, John Broccas was brought to the Bar, by
the Gentleman of the Black Rod; and he kneeling, the
Speaker told him, "That the House of Commons had
impeached him of High Treason, for permitting Captain Wm. Legg. to escape out of His Custody, being
committed close Prisoner for High Treason; and told
him, that this House commanded him to give his present Answer to this Impeachment."
To which Impeachment of High Treason, the said
John Broccas pleaded, Not Guilty.
Committed to The Poultry.
Then he withdrew, and this House Ordered, That
the said John Broccas shall stand committed close Prisoner to The Poultry Compter, in London, there to remain until the further Pleasure of this House be known;
and that the Sheriff of London, who hath the Charge of
that Compter, shall, upon his Peril, have a special Care
for his safe Custody and his true Imprisonment, being
impeached by the House of Commons for High Treason.
The Answer returned by these Messengers was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House told John Broccas his Impeachment
of High Treason, to which he pleads Not Guilty;
and that this House hath committed him close Prisoner
to The Poultry Compter, in London; and have given Order, That the Sheriff of London shall take Care for his
Ten Thousand Pounds to be sent into Munster;
Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of
Commons, in sending Ten Thousand Pounds with all
convenient Expedition into Munster for the Relief of the
Soldiers in that Province, out of the Adventurers-money.
Also this House agrees to send Three Thousand Suits,
Three Thousand Caps, Four Thousand Pair of Shoes,
Three Thousand Pair of Stockings, and Three Thousand
Shirts, to furnish the Soldiers of Munster withall; all
which to be deducted out of their Pay.
As for the other Particulars in the same Order, brought
up from the House of Commons the 5th of September
last, concerning the sending out of Ulster into Munster
a Troop of Horse, and One Thousand commanded Men,
with Officers, out of such Regiments as are under the
Command in Pay with the Lord Conway; and also concerning of One Thousand Men out of Lempster into Munster,
this House will take into further Consideration hereafter.
Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of
Commons To-morrow, to let them know how far this
House agrees with them in this Order.
Message from the H. C. that they concur in the Amendment about the Lord General's delivering the Petition to the King;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Tho. Barrington, Knight and Baronet; which
consisted of divers Particulars:
1. To let their Lordships know, that the House of
Commons concurs with their Lordships, in the Alteration of the Third Vote concerning the Lord General's
delivering the Petition to His Majesty, as it was delivered at the Conference this Day.
with Instructions to be sent to Mr. Strickland in Holland;
2. The House of Commons desires their Lordships
Concurrence in some Instructions, which are to be sent
into Holland, to Mr. Strickland: videlicet,
"Resolved, upon the Question,
"That Mr. Walter Strickland shall continue Agent
for the Parliament, with The States General of the
United Provinces; and shall be authorized to complain
of such Things as he shall find to tend to the Prejudice of the Parliament, either to The States General,
or to the particular States of the particular Provinces,
after that he hath received an Answer to the Declaration; and that he shall send the said Answer by an
"That it shall be left to Mr. Walter Strickland, to
publish the Declaration, as in his Discretion he
shall think it most advantageous to the Service.
"That, as soon as this House is informed what Commanders or Officers are come over hither out of Holland, to serve against the Parliament, they will send a
List of their Names to Mr. Walter Strickland."
Ordered, That this House agrees with the House
of Commons in these Votes.
The House of Commons desires their Lordships Concurrence in an Order: videlicet,
and with an Order for Ammunition for Ireland.
"Whereas Mr. Wm Pennoyer, Merchant, is employed by the State, for the sending away to Bristoll Six
Hundred Barrels of Gunpowder, Forty Tun of Match,
and other Necessaries, for the present Relief of the
miserable Condition of Ireland, with all possible Speed:
It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That the said Wm. Pennoyer shall take up and
employ, for this present and important Service, all such
Bristoll and Western Waggons, Carts, and Carriages,
as now are or shall be in Town within these Five Days,
he paying the usual Rates for the same; and all the
Owners, and others intrusted with the Waggons,
Carts, and Carriages, are hereby required to yield
Obedience hereunto, as they will answer the contrary:
And it is likewise Ordered, That the said Waggons,
Carts, and Carriages, so employed by the said Wm.
Pennoyer for this Service, shall not be searched or
stayed by any Person whatsoever: And it is lastly
Ordered, That Three Hundred Barrels of Powder,
Part of the Six Hundred Barrels, shall be forthwith
delivered to the said Wm. Pennoyer out of the Stores
of the City of London, he paying after the Rate of
Four Pounds Fifteen Shillings the Barrel for the same."
Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of
Commons in this Order.
The Answer returned by these Messengers, was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House agrees with the House of Commons
in all the Orders now brought up.
Committee of Safety to administer Oaths.
Ordered, That the Lords Committees for the Safety
and Defence of the Kingdom shall have Power, by virtue of this Order, to administer an Oath to such Persons as they shall think fit.
Adjourn till 10a cras.