DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 23 die Januarii.
Earl (fn. *) of Manchester, Speaker.
D. of Espernoone's Horses to be restored.
Upon Information to this House, "That the Duke
Espernoone having lent Two Coach Horses to one Mr.
Pasquill, which are taken away:" It is Ordered,
That if the said Duke Espernoone will own the Horses,
they shall be restored.
Order to prevent the Abuse of taking Horses.
Upon Complaint made to this House of the great
Abuse of taking away of Horses, to the great Damage
of divers Persons, which make Complaint of the same;
and this House taking the same into Consideration, and
that the Orders of this House have been disobeyed:
This House Ordered, To have a Conference with the
House of Commons, and to acquaint them with the
Abuse of the Order of Parliament, in giving Power to
Deputies; and that divers Gentlemen of Kent, that have
contributed to the Parliament, have had their Horses
seized; and desired that the Order lately sent to them
may be agreed on, and the Order of the 15th of November last may be revoked; and that it may be Declared,
That if any do presume to seize Horses hereafter, contrary to that Order, that they shall be proceeded against
L. Mountague to transport Horses to France.
Ordered, That the Lord Viscount Mountague shall
have his Order renewed, for transporting his Horses
into France, as was formerly allowed him.
Message to the H. C. for a Conference about seizing Horses.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:
To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the seizing of Horses.
The Answer returned was:
That the House of Commons will give a present
Conference, as is desired.
Petition of the French Church for Election of a Minister.
A Petition was read, directed, "To the Right Honourable the Lords assembled in the Upper House of
"The humble Petition of the Members of
the French Congregation;
"That your Petitioners have, a Month since, exhibited their humble Petition to the Honourable House
of Commons, for the free Election of a Minister
properly belonging to the Members your Petitioners,
according to the usual Custom of the French; yet
the Elder unjustly claimeth the same Election, as a
Due and Power in himself.
"May it therefore please your Lordships to
refer the Examination of the Business to
the Honourable the House of Commons."
This House conceived this Petition to be of a dangerous Consequence, this House having heard the Parties
on both Sides, and the Matter having been reported
and settled by Order of this House.
The Party that delivered in this Petition was called in,
one Marcescall, a Frenchman; and the Speaker asked him,
whether he owns the said Petition. He said, "He, as
One, was consenting to it, and many others."
Marescall committed for delivering it.
The House taking this into Consideration, and conceiving this Act of this Person to be a great Offence, in
regard of the Nature of the ill Precedent of the said
Petition, and that the same was much against the Honour
and Dignity of this House; Ordered, That the said
Marescall shall be committed to the Prison of The Fleete,
there to remain until the Pleasure of this House be
Charters of the French and Dutch Churches to be brought in.
The Order made concerning the Congregation of the
French and Dutch Church was read; and, because they
desired some Particulars may be expressed in the said
Order which was conceived to be in their Charters,
it is Ordered, That the Charters shall be brought in
To-morrow Morning, and then this House will take the
same into further Consideration.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Report of a Conference about the Propositions to the King.
Next, the Speaker reported the Conference on Saturday last, concerning the Propositions.
1. He read the Amendments and Alterations, with
the Resolutions and Answer of the House of Commons
2. A Vote, "That there shall be a fixed (fn. *) Day desired of His Majesty, to give a positive Answer to
the Propositions, within Ten Days after the Delivery
of them unto His Majesty."
3. They presented to their Lordships the Title of the
Bill concerning Bishops, which they desire may be added
to the Propositions.
Bill to abolish Episcopacy, brought from the H. C.
A Message was brought up from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley, Knight of the Bath; who
brought up a Bill, which hath passed the House of
Commons, and wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.
The Title of the said Bill was,
"An Act for the utter Abolishing and Taking away
of all Archbishops, Bishops, their Chancellors and
Commissaries, Deans, Sub-Deans, Deans and Chapters,
Archdeacons, Canons, and Prebendaries, and all
Chaunters, Chancellors, Treasurers, Sub-Treasurers,
Succentors, and Sacrists, and all Vicars Choral, and
Choristers, old Vicars, and new Vicars, of any Cathedral or Collegiate Church, and of all other their
Under-officers, out of the Church of England."
Next, this House took the Propositions into Consideration, as they were now reported from the House
of Commons, with the Alterations.
To be further debated this Afternoon.
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance for Ministers at the Fast to ask Forgiveness for the National Sins.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Rouse:
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance appointing the Ministers at the Fast to ask Pardon
of God for the National Sins of this Kingdom.
Ordered, To be referred to the Earls of Warwicke
and Bollingbrooke, and the Lord Viscount Say & Seale,
and the Lord Wharton, Brooke, Grey, Feilding, and
Bruce, to mend some Expressions of the Words in it,
and report the same to the House.
Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock.
The Answer returned was:
That this House (fn. †) will return an Answer, by Messengers of their own.
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance for a Subscription in London, for Warwick and Stafford.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Bosevile:
To desire Concurrence in an Ordinance for some Subscriptions of some Merchants in London, for the County
of Warwicke and Stafford; and, because this House
conceived that this might be an ill Precedent, and will
be prejudicial to the Subscriptions in London, which are
for the Maintenance of the Army, it is Ordered, That
the List of these Subscriptions shall be brought in to the
Committees in London, for the raising of Monies for the
Army; and that the Monies shall be paid into Guildhall;
and, upon Certificate thereof, the said Committees are
to acquaint the Committees for the Safety of the Kingdom therewith, and receive their Directions therein.
House adjourned (fn. *) till 3a post meridiem.
Earl of Manchester, Speaker.
King's Servants; a Pass.
Ordered, The Scullery-man, and One other Servant of the King's, shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford.
Propositions about a General Pardon.
Next, these Lords following were appointed to be
Committees, to withdraw presently, and consider of the
Thirteenth Proposition concerning the General Pardon;
and to report the same to the House:
|L. Viscount Say & Seale.
The House was resumed.
And it was reported, "That the Committee are (fn. *) of
Opinion, to let the House of Commons know, that
their Lordships, upon Second Thoughts, offer it to
their Considerations, whether it were not best to name
such Persons as they will proceed against before the
Tenth of January, One Thousand Six Hundred
Forty-three; else all Men will be liable to be
Bill to abolish Episcopacy.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the taking
away of Archbishops, Bishops, Deans and Chapters, &c.
House adjourned till 10a cras.