DIE Mercurii, 29 die Aprilis,
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt :
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p. Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. Dunelium.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Wigorn.
p. Epus. Cestriæ.
Epus. Lincoln.
p. Epus. Sarum.
p. Epus. Co. et Lich.
p. Epus. Glouc.
p. Epus. Exon.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Carliol.
p. Epus. Asaphen.
p. Epus. Bath. et Wells.
p. Epus. Oxon.
p. Epus. Hereff.
p. Epus. Elien.
p. Epus. Meneven.
p. Epus. Bristoll.
p. Epus. Bangor.
p. Epus. Roffen.
p. Epus. Cicestren.
p. Epus. Petriburg.
p. Epus. Landaven. |
p. Ds. Finch, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
p. Epus. London. Ds. Thesaur. Angliæ.
p. Comes Manchester, Ds. Custos. Privati Sigilli.
p. Marchio Winton.
p. Comes Lindsey, Magnus. Camerarius Angliæ.
p. Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Marescallus Angliæ, et Senesc Hospitii.
p. Comes Northumbriæ, Mag. Admirall Angliæ.
p. Comes Pembrooke, Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kanc.
Comes Derby.
Comes Wigorn.
p. Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
p. Comes Huntington.
p. Comes Bathon.
p. Comes South'ton.
p. Comes Bedford.
p. Comes Hartford.
p. Comes Essex.
p. Comes Lincoln.
p. Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suff.
p. Comes Dorset.
p. Comes Sarum.
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Comes Somerset.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicester.
p. Comes North'ton.
p. Comes Warwiciæ.
p. Comes Devon.
p. Comes Cantab.
p. Comes March.
Comes Carlile.
p. Comes Denbigh.
p. Comes Bristoll.
Comes Midd.
p. Comes Holland.
p. Comes Clare.
p. Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
p. Comes Berkes.
p. Comes Cleveland.
Comes Moulgrave.
Comes Danby.
p. Comes Mounmouth.
Comes Marleborough.
p. Comes Rivers.
p. Comes Newcastle.
Comes Dover.
p. Comes Petriburgh.
Comes Standford.
Comes Kingstone.
p. Comes Carnarvon.
p. Comes Newport.
Comes Chesterfeild.
p. Comes Thanet.
p. Comes St. Albanes.
p. Comes Portland.
p. Comes Strafford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbecke.
p. Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Conway.
p. Vicecomes Campden.
p. Ds. Mowbray.
p. Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavery.
p. Ds. Audley.
p. Ds. Strange.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Morley et Mount.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windsor.
Ds. Cromewell.
Ds. Evre.
p. Ds. Wharton.
p. Ds. Willoughby de Par.
p. Ds. Paget.
Ds. North.
Ds. Gerrard.
Ds. Stanhope.
Ds. Arundell de War.
p. Ds. Kimbolton.
p. Ds. Newneham Paddox.
p. Ds. Brooke.
p. Ds. Mountague de Bough.
p. Ds. Gray de Warke.
p. Ds. Deincourt.
p. Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Croven.
p. Ds. Lawconberge.
p. Ds. Lovelace.
p. Ds. Pawlet.
Ds. Harvey.
Ds. Brudnell.
p. Ds. Mainord.
p. Ds. Coventrie.
p. Ds. Howard de Esc.
p. Ds. Goreing.
Ds. Mohun.
p. Ds. Savile.
Ds. Botiler.
p. Ds. Dunsmore.
p. Ds. Powis.
p. Ds. Herbert de Cher.
p. Ds. Cottington.
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PRAYERS.
Managers to prepare the Report.
Moved, That the Lords that were appointed to assist
the Lord Keeper, to report the Conference from the
House of Commons, might retire themselves, to examine
and perfect their Notes concerning the Report.
Hereupon the House was adjourned during Pleasure,
and, after the Lords had conferred a while, they re
turned into the House, and the House was resumed.
The Lord Keeper reported the Conference with the
House of Commons Yesterday, to this Effect.
Conference of Yesterday reported.
"Mr. Pym did say, He was commanded, by the
Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses of the House of
Commons, to represent to your Lordships their Desire
and Care to preserve a Union and Correspondence
with your Lordships, which may not only express
the Honour and Respect which they bear to this
illustrious Body of the Nobility, and the Great and
High Court of Peers, but may be effectual to give
Expedition to both Houses, in those great and urgent
Affairs for which His Majesty was pleased to assemble
this Parliament.
"The great Privileges belonging to this High Court
of Parliament are not airy, and Matters of Pomp,
but have in them Reality and Efficacy; whereby this
Great Council of the Kingdom is enabled to perform all those Noble Functions which belong to them,
in respect of the I egislative Power and Consiliary
Power, and as they are the Great and Highest Court
of Resort and Judicature in the Kingdom; and these
Privileges have been ever dear, and, he hoped, shall
be, to both Houses.
"As there are general Privileges belonging to the
whole Body, so there are others more peculiar, belonging to either House; and of these the House of
Commons shall be ever tender :
"For the Court of Parliament is not only a Rule,
but a Fountain of Order, and, if any Confusion
should be brought in here, there would be Danger
it might from hence be derived to other inferior Jurisdictons of the Kingdom.
"Among these peculiar Privileges, there is one great
Privilege, which was acknowledged by your Lordships in the last Conference, That the Matter of Subsidy and Supply ought to begin in the House of Commons This (he said) he had no Directions to go
about to prove by Argument or Precedent, because
it was admitted by your Lordships The House of
Commons do not conceive you vary from your Jus
tice, or from your good Intentions to them, though,
in the Proceedings of that Conference, your Lordships have been transported beyond the Grounds
which your Lordships had set to yourselves.
"Your Lordships, in the last Conference, have been
pleased to affirm, that the Matter of Subsidy and Supply naturally belonging to the House of Commons,
your Lordships would not meddle with it, no not so
much as to give Advice; yet after you were pleased
to declare, that you have voted in your Lordships
House, That it was most necessary and fit, that Matter of Supply should have the Precedency of all other
Business; and this being done, your Lordships would
freely join with them in all Things, concerning Matter
of Religion, Propriety of Goods, and Liberty of Parliament.
"Now, my Lords, if you have voted this, you have
not only meddled with Matter of Supply, but, as
far as in you lies, have concluded both the Matter
and Order of Proceeding, which the House of Commons takes to be a Breach of their Privilege; for
which he was commanded to desire Reparation from
your Lordships."
"He said, The House of Commons hath not directed him to propound any Way of Reparation, not
doubting but your Lordships Wisdom and Justice will
find out a Way to make up this Breach, and to provide that this Precedent may not be prejudicial to the
House of Commons for the future.
Indemnity of the Commons.
"He said, He was further commanded to let your
Lordships understand, that, from the Enumeration of
those Three Particulars, Religion, Propriety of Goods,
and Privilege of Parliament, the House of Commons
do collect, that your Lordships have taken Notice of
some Proceedings in their House concerning those Particulars, which is a Breach of another great Privilege
of that House, solemnly established in Parliament, and
called the Indemnity of the Commons. Whereupon
they have commanded him to desire, That, for better maintaining of a good Understanding between
both Houses, your Lordships would forbear to receive any Information, from any whatsoever, concerning the Proceedings and Conclusions in the House of
Commons, till they shall be brought to you by themselves; not doubting but all their Resolutions shall
be such as shall manifest to your Lordships, and to
the whole World, their Zeal, and faithful Endeavours, to maintain the Greatness and the Lustre of
His Majesty's Throne, the Safety and Prosperity of
the Kingdom, and the Comfort and Contentment of
both Houses."
After the Lord Keeper had delivered the Report, for
the freer Debate of the Business, the House was adjourned into a Committee, during Pleasure.
And, after a long and serious Debate, and Consideration of that Business, the House was resumed, and
it was Agreed, That the Question should be put, Whether the Lords had broke the Privileges of the House of
Commons, by their former Vote; and, upon the Question, it was Resolved, by the major Part of the Votes,
thus: "That, by their Lordships first Voting (We are
of Opinion that the Matter of His Majesty's Supply
should have Precedency, and be resolved of, before
any other Matter whatsoever), was no Breach of the
Privileges of the House of Commons."
Roll of Fees.
This Day the Earl of Warwicke reported to the House,
the Roll of all the Officers ancient Fees of this House,
from the Lords of the Grand Committee, and appointed
to be read in the House some other Time.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum,
videlicet, diem Jovis, instantis Aprilis 30m, hora nona
Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.