DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 13 die Novembris.
Ld. Privy Seal chose Speaker by the House.
This House was informed, "That the Lord Keeper
is so ill in his Health at this Time, that he is not able
to come to the House this Day, so the House was
without a Speaker:" Hereupon the Lords appointed
the Lord Privy Seal to be Speaker of this House this
Impeached Bishops Answers delivered to the H. C.
The Messengers which were sent Yesterday to the
House of Commons reported, "That, according to
their Lordships Commands, they had delivered the
Plea and Demurrer of the Bishops to the House of
Propositions concerning the Irish Affairs agreed to.
The Lord Kymbolton reported some Propositions,
which the Committees of both Houses considered of,
concerning the Affairs of Ireland; to which the House
of Commons have agreed upon, and they desire that this
(fn. *) House would approve of the same; which were read,
"1. That there shall be Officers for Two Thousand
Foot sent into the North Parts of Ireland, to be divided into Two Regiments.
"2. That it shall be referred to the Lord Lieutenant,
to make a List of those Officers, and to appoint of
what Numbers each Company shall consist of.
"3. That the Thirteen Hundred Arms that are in
Carlile shall be sent away presently to the North
Parts of Ireland, and Arms for one Troop of Horse.
"4. That the Forty old Foot Companies be recruited, unto One Hundred Men in a Company.
"5. That the Recommendation of Sir John Clattworthy to some honourable Entertainment in Ireland,
be proposed to the Lords.
"6. That the like Recommendation be for the Lord
Dungarvan, and for the Command of Youghall. This
Request the Lord Dungarvan desires may be left to
the Lord Lieutenant.
"7. That Officers be sent into Munster, for One
Thousand Foot, and one Troop of Horse; and this
was the easier yielded unto, because the Lord Dungarvan informed, that the Soldiers should receive no
Pay till they were ready to march against the Enemy.
"8. That present Order be taken for securing Port
Towns of Munster, as Corke, Waterford, Lymericke,
Kynsale, Youghall, Baltamore, Slego, and Gallaway
in Connaught, because these Towns lie on the South
West of Ireland, near Spaine.
"9. That the Officers may be speedily sent for Dubline.
"10. It is thought fit by the Committees, that Sir
Symon Harcourt should have the Salary of Twenty
Shillings per Diem above the rest, for his Command
"11. That the Entertainments of every Regiment of
Horse, and every Regiment of Foot, and the Pay of
all the Officers of the Army, is considered of by the
Committees, and allowed of.
"The Train of Artillery is not yet settled by the
Council of Assistants.
"That it is agreed, That the Officers enter into Pay
from the Date of their Commissions; and Sir Symon
Harcourt to go away presently."
Ordered, That this House approves of the aforesaid
Proclamation to recall Recusants gone into Ireland.
The Earl of Holland, the Lord Viscount Say & Seale,
the Bishop of Lincolne, the Lord Wharton, and the
Lord Kymbolton, were appointed Committees, to call
Mr. Attorney General to them, to advise and consider
of the Draught of a Proclamation, which is to be
issued out in Ireland, to summon all Recusants, which
have transported themselves from hence into Ireland
within a Year last past, to return within a Time limited
into England, etc. and to report the same to this House.
The Venetian Ambassador's Answer to the Lords sent to him.
The Lord Newneham reported, "That himself and
the rest of the Lords appointed by this House repaired to the Venetian Ambassador, and delivered unto
him the Paper translated into Italian, touching the
Excuse for opening of his Letters; and, after he had
read (fn. *) it, he presented to this House great Thanks, for
sending such Persons of such great Place in this State
to him; and promised he would present the same to
the State of Venice, with as much Respect as he
could; but desired, that the King's Ambassador may
be sent away as speedily as may be to Venice, in the
Nature of a special Ambassador, to make Excuse for
this particular Business, before he treat of any public Affairs. And, for Prevention of any Accident for
the future, he desires to have an Order to the Postmaster, That his Letters may be speedily sent him."
Hereupon this House thought fit, That the First Desire,
touching the sending of an Ambassador to Venice, should
be left to His Majesty's Pleasure; and for the other
Particular, it is Ordered, That all such Packets
and Letters as are or shall be directed to the Venetian
Ambassador shall be forthwith delivered up to the said
Ambassador's own Hands.
Directed "To Tho. Witherings, Esquire,
Post-master to His Majesty for the
Magazine at Hull to be brought to The Tower.
Ordered, That the Earl of Newport, Master of
the Ordnance, shall have Power, by virtue of this Order, to send his Commands, and to issue forth Warrants,
for the bringing up the Magazine of Arms and Ammunition remaining now in Kingston upon Hull, unto The
Tower of London, for the securing of the Kingdom.
Investiture of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland dispensed with.
Ordered, That, because the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland hath not been invested in the Formality of his
Place by the receiving of the Sword in Ireland, that
his Lordship shall have Power, by virtue of this Order,
to give Command to the Lords Justices of Ireland, to
seize upon the Persons of any that are suspected, until
they shall clear themselves unto the said Lords Justices
Committee concerning Recusants.
Lords Committees appointed to see the Orders and
Statutes put in Execution against Popish Recusants:
The L. Chamberlain.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Grey de Warke.
Their Lordships, or any Five, to meet when they
Committee for Gunpowder.
Ordered, That the Committee for Gunpowder do
meet on Tuesday Morning next.
Maintenance for the Judges.
Ordered, That the Committee to consider of some
further Maintenance to be settled upon the Punie
Judges do meet on Wednesday next, in the Afternoon,
at Three a Clock.
Ships to guard the Irish Coasts.
Ordered, That the Committees for the Irish Affairs
shall specially consider of the speedy sending forth
Ships, for the guarding of the Irish Coasts.
Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of
Commons on Monday Morning, to give them Notice how
far this House have agreed to the Resolutions brought
up from them the 6th of this Instant November.
A Message was brought up from the House of Commons, by the Lord Craneborne:
Message from the H. C. to desire this House would sit awhile.
To let their Lordships know, that they are now in
Agitation of Business of some Importance; and they
desire their Lordships would be pleased to sit a while,
and they shall come up about some Business.
The Answer returned was:
That this House will sit until they hear from the
House of Commons.
List of the Queen's Servants to be sent in.
Ordered, That the Earl of Dorsett do send in, on
Monday Morning next, the List of the Queen's Servants.
Ellison versus Watkins for forging an Order of the House.
After this, one James Watkins was brought to the
Bar, as a Delinquent, "for serving a forged Order of
this House upon one Richard Ellison, a Clothier, living in Yorkeshire, whereby he was forced to appear
before this House, to his Charge and Expence of
near Ten Pounds. The Particulars the said Ellison
proved upon Oath." And the said Watkins alledged,
by Way of Answer hereunto, "That he had the
Order of One Harris, an Attorney, who procured
the pretended Order for him, for which he gave him
Five Shillings." Upon this it is Ordered, That
the said James Watkins shall stand committed to The
Fleet, until he shall pay unto the said Ellison, or his
Assigns, the Sum of Ten Pounds, and shall find Sureties for the good Behaviour, to be given before the
Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench; and, after
his Enlargement, he shall endeavour to find out the
Party from whom he pretends to have received the
said forged Order, that thereby their Lordships may so
proceed against him as shall be according to Justice.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Grey of Groby:
Message from the H. C. for a Conference, about the Instructions for the Committees in Scotland.
To desire a present Conference, if it may stand with
their Lordships Conveniency, by a Committee of both
Houses, touching some Instructions to be sent to the
Committees of both Houses in Scotland.
The Answer returned was:
That their Lordships will give a present Meeting, in
the Painted Chamber, as is desired.
The Lord Privy Seal was appointed to report the
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended,
the House was resumed.
And the Lord Privy Seal reported the Effect of the
Conference, which was:
Amendments to the Instructions, proposed by the Commons.
"That the House of Commons had returned the Instructions, with some few Alterations, which they
desire their Lordships to agree with them in.
"As, in the Second Article, these Words ["as is
more particularly specified in the Fifth Article"] to
come in another Place, between the Word ["Scotland"] and the Word ["for"].
"Next, in the Fourth Article, they desire, that
these Words may be added, which are to come in
between the Word ["adjoining"] and the Word
["And"], ["Besides, we have taken Order for divers Officers to be sent for the leading of Two Regiments, to be levied of the Inhabitants there"].
"And in the Fifth Article, they desire that this
Alteration may be made: Whereas before there were
but One Thousand Men desired, now ["That the full
Number of Ten Thousand may be raised of His
Majesty's Subjects in Scotland, at such Time, and in
such Manner, as shall be thought fit by the Parliament here, of which Number for the present we
desire that Five Thousand Men, etc."].
And, being put to the Question, it was Resolved,
upon the Question, by the major Part, That this House
doth agree with the House of Commons, to desire that
Five Thousand Scotts may be presently sent out of Scotland into Ireland.
The Commons further desired, "That, if their
Lordships agreed to these Alterations, that the first
Six Articles agreed upon might be speedily sent away
by Mr. Pickeringe; and for the remanent Articles,
touching ill Counsels and Counsellors, they desire
their Lordships would join with them therein; and
they will tarry Four or Five Days for their Lordships
Agreed to by the Lords.
Upon this, the Six Articles were distinctly read over,
with the Alterations; and this House agreed to them
all, and will take the rest into Consideration hereafter.
After this, the Petition was read, in bæc verba:
"To the King's most Excellent Majesty.
"The humble Petition of the Lords and Commons in Parliament.
Petition to His Majesty, about the said Instructions.
"Most Gracious Sovereign,
"Whereas this Messenger, Mr. John Pickeringe, is
employed from us, with Instructions to our Committees in Scotland, to petition Your Majesty to propound
to Your Parliament of Scotland our Desire of some
Aids from that Kingdom for the Suppression of the
Rebels in Ireland, if it fall out that Your Majesty
shall be come out of Scotland, or our Committees,
before the Arrival of this Messenger there:
"We humbly beseech Your Majesty to give Authority to the said Mr. Pickeringe, to present
the said Instructions to the Parliament of Scotland, and to bring back their Answer to the
Parliament of England."
Which being read, was approved of by this House.
Answer to the H. C. about this Conference.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and
the Lords went to give the House of Commons Answer
of what their Lordships have agreed with them in as
aforesaid. Which being done, the Lords returned,
and the House was resumed.
Dominus Custos Privati Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 15m diem instantis Novembris, hora 12a, Dominis sic decernentibus.