DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 13 die Decembris.
PRAYERS.
Sir John Blagrave's Bill.
Hodie 1a
vice lecta est Billa, An Act to enable Sir
John Blagrave, Knight, to make a Jointure to his
now Wife, and to any Wife he shall hereafter marry,
of such Manors, Lands, and Tenements, as were
heretofore assured for the Jointure of his former
Wife.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Hotham:
Message from the H. C. for a Conference concerning the Impeachment against the Bishops.
To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons is now ready to give a Free Conference, touching
the Impeachment of the Bishops.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That their Lordships will give them a present Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Treaty with the Scots, concerning the Irish Affairs. Answer.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Gilbert Gherrard, Baronet:
To desire a Free Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, touching the Treaty with the Scotts Commissioners, for the Business of Ireland.
The Answer returned was:
That their Lordships will give them a present Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
The Matter of this Conference with the House of
Commons was:
Heads for the Conference about the impeached Bishops.
"To let them know, that this House having Ordered the Thirteen Bishops to make Answers to
their Impeachment, or whether they will abide by
their Plea and Demurrer, the Bishops are resolved
to adhere to their former Plea and Demurrer; only
they have waved One Branch of their Demurrer,
which was to the Generality of the Charge, which
appears to be particular; upon this, their Lordships
did Order, That, on this Day, they should be heard,
by their Counsel, touching the maintaining of their
Plea and Demurrer; and that the House of Commons, or such Members as they think * fit, might
be present, if they please.
"And further to know of the House of Commons,
whether the Impeachment of the 13th of August last
came as the Resolution of the House of Commons,
to be the Impeachment against the Thirteen Bishops,
or from a Committee."
Conference reported.
Next the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and
the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended,
the House was resumed; and the Lord Keeper reported the Conference, which consisted of Two several
Particulars:
"1. He said, he acquainted the House of Commons
concerning the Plea and Demurrer of the Bishops, as
he was directed; and the House of Commons do
avow the Impeachment of the 13th of August against
the Thirteen Bishops to be the Resolution of the
whole House, and voted by them to be the Charge.
Treaty between the Scotch and English Commissioners, about Assistance for Ireland.
"The other Particular of the Conference was, to
let their Lordships know, That the English Commissioners have met with the Scotts Commissioners, and
have shewed them Two Orders from each House of
Parliament, enabling them to treat about Ten
Thousand to be sent into Ireland, both dated the
11th of this Instant December. The Order of the
House of Commons was, That they do approve and
consent that His Majesty's Commissioners, named by
the Parliament, and appointed to treat with the Scotts
Commissioners, shall treat with them for the raising
of Ten Thousand Scotts, for the Occasions of Ireland.
"But, for that there was a Clause in the Lords
Order, to desire the Scottish Commissioners to write
to Scotland, for Power to treat for a lesser Number
if the King and Parliament thought fit, the Scotts
Commissioners Desire was, that both Houses would
agree of One Order, and likewise of the Number of
Men they desire; and then, they would give a satisfactory Answer.
"The House of Commons say, they are willing to
pay the Men, and desire the Restriction of the Clause
in their Lordships Order may be taken off, and that
both Houses may join in One Order."
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the condemned Priests.
Next, a Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Cary:
To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships
Conveniency, touching the Priests.
The Answer hereunto returned was:
Answer.
That this House will give a present Meeting, in the
Painted Chamber, as is desired.
Conference reported.
This House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed; and the Lord Keeper reported the
Effect of the Conference; which was concerning "the
Request made by the French Ambassador to the King,
for the reprieving and banishing the Seven Priests
that were condemned at the Sessions in London.
The House of Commons say, "They have taken
the Proposition into their Consideration; and their
humble Advice to the King is, That Execution may
be done, according to Law, upon Five of the Seven
Priests; videlicet, upon Hamond, Rivers alias Abbott,
Walter Coleman alias Colmer, Francis Torman alias Winmore, and one Frier. And the House of
Commons desires that their Lordships would join with
them in this Advice to His Majesty."
Further Conference to be had concerning them.
For Debate hereof, the House was put into a Committee during Pleasure; and, after Consideration hereof,
the House was resumed; and it was Resolved, To have
a Conference with the House of Commons, to know
what Reasons induced them to be of Opinion that Five
should be executed, and Two of the Priests saved.
Message to the H. C. for it.
To this Purpose a Message was sent to the House of
Commons, by Serjeant Fynch and Serjeant Glanvile:
To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, touching the Seven Priests.
The Answer hereunto returned was:
Answer.
That the House of Commons will give a present
Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir John Clattworthy, Knight:
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Affairs of Ireland.
To desire a Free Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Affairs of Ireland.
The Answer was:
Answer.
That this House will give them a present Conference,
as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
Bill for pressing Soldiers.
Ordered, That the King's Counsel shall be heard
the First Cause To-morrow, concerning the Bill for
pressing of Soldiers.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed; and the Report of the Conference
from the House of Commons was appointed to be made
To-morrow.
Conference concerning the Treaty with the Scotch Commissioners about the Irish Affairs debated.
After this, the House was adjourned into a Committee
during Pleasure, to debate the Conference with the
House of Commons this Day, touching the Treaty with
the Scotts Commissioners; and the Earl of Bedford, one
of the Lords Commissioners, declared to the House,
"That the Scotts Commissioners desired that both
Houses would agree upon One Order, and likewise
what Number of Men they desired; and then they
would give a satisfactory Answer."
Commissioners to treat for Ten Thousand Scots for Ireland.
And, after much Debate, the House was resumed;
and it is Ordered, That this House doth approve and
consent with the House of Commons, that the English
Commissioners shall treat with the Scotts Commissioners,
for the raising of Ten Thousand Scotts, for the Occasions of Irelande.
Inigo Jones's Counsel.
Ordered, That Mr. Chute and Mr. Trevor are
assigned to be of Counsel with Inigo Jones, Esquire, in
his Defence to the Declaration brought up against him
from the House of Commons.
Three Irish Soldiers stopped at Holy Head, on Suspicion, to be examined on the Spot.
Whereas the House was this Day informed, "That
there are Three Irish Soldiers at Holy Head, in the
Isle of Anglesey, who are stayed there upon Suspicion of something touching the present Rebellion
in Ireland, or for their endeavouring of going over
thither;" it is (fn. *) Ordered, etc. That the Vice Admiral, and the next Justice of Peace to the Place where
they are, shall examine the said Three Persons; upon
which Examinations, they shall either send them up to
the Lords in Parliament, or otherwise release them, if
they shall think fit.
Bailiswick of Surrey in Windsor Forest.
Whereas the House was this Day informed, "That
Commissioners touching the Bailifwick of Surrey are
to meet on Thursday the 16th of this Instant December, to enquire of and find out the Bounds of
the Bailifwick of Surrey, in His Majesty's Forest of
Windsor, as they were used and taken in the 20th
Year of King James;" and it was likewise informed,
That some Questions hath been made whether the
Enquiry what the Bounds of the said Bailifwick are
in Right, as well what and how the same were used
in the said 20th Year, this House hath now in Consideration, and it is intended that some speedy Declaration will be made by the Parliament of and
concerning the same, and the Intention of the said
Statute:" Whereupon it is thought fit, and so
Ordered by the Lords in Parliament, That the said
Commissioners shall, at their said Meeting, adjourn
without any further Proceeding unto some Day, that
the said Commissioners shall think fit, after the 6th Day
of January next ensuing; and it is further Ordered,
That, between this and the said Meeting, His Majesty
shall receive no Prejudice touching or any Ways concerning the said Forest and the Bounds thereof, nor in
His Majesty's Deer in the said Forest, or belonging
unto the same; and that public Declaration be made
thereof in all such Places, and to all such Persons to
whom the Business doth appertain, or hath Relation unto.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis,
videlicet, 14m diem instantis Decembris, 1641, hora 1a
post meridiem, Dominis sic decernentibus.