DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 27 die Decembris.
PRAYERS.
False Reports concerning a Speech by the E. of Newport, about seizing the Queen and Her Children, at a Meeting of some Lords and Commoners at Kensington.
Information was given to this House, "That some
Members of this House have had false Rumours reported of them, which was, That, during the Time
of the King's being last in Scotland, it was told the
Queen, that, at a Meeting at Kensington (where the
Earl of Essex, the Earl of Newport, the Lord Viscount
Say & Seale, the Lord Mandevile, and the Lord
Wharton, Members of this House, and the Lord
Dungarvan, Mr. Nath. Fynes, Sir Jo. Clatworthy, and
Mr. Jo. Pym, Members of the House of Commons,
were present), upon a Discourse of some Plots that
should be done in this Kingdom or in Scotland, the
Earl of Newport should say, If there be such a Plot,
yet here are His Wife and Children; meaning that the
Person of the Queen and Her Children should be
seized upon."
Upon this, the Earl of Newport stood up, and gave
the House this Account:
E. of Newport's Defence.
"That, hearing of such an Information which had
been presented to the Queen, he went with some
other Lords, and waited on the Queen, and, with
many Protestations, assured the Queen, that never
any such Words were spoken, nor the least Thought
thereof conceived, of any such Fact; with which
the Queen seemed to rest satisfied.
"But, upon Friday last, His Majesty asked his Lordship, whether he heard any Debate at Kensington,
about Seizing upon the Queen and Her Children;
which his Lordship denying, His Majesty replied again,
That He was sorry for his Lordship's ill Memory."
This Information being ended, the House considering
it to be a Matter of great Consequence, and because
some Members of the House of Commons are concerned therein, it was thought (fn. *) fit to have a Conference, that they would join with their Lordships in
making narrow Search into this Business, that so the
Bottom of it may be found out, and the Reporter of this
false Rumour brought to condign Punishment.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Baron Henden and Justice Mallet:
Message to the H. C. for a Conference about this.
To desire a present Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses, touching some scandalous Report concerning some Members of both Houses.
Committee to prepare Heads for it.
These Lords following were appointed to draw up the
Heads of this Conference: videlicet,
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The L. Archbp. of Yorke.
L. Admiral.
Comes Bristoll. |
Comes Holland.
Ds. Robartes.
Ds. Savill. |
These Lords withdrew presently.
Tumult at the Door of the Parliament. Gentleman Usher sent to disperse them.
There being a Concourse of People about the Parliament Door, and the Places adjoining, the Gentleman
Usher was directed to go and command them, in the
King's Name, to be gone, and disperse themselves to
their Places of Abode, or else they shall be proceeded
against according to Law.
Their Answer.
The Gentleman Usher returned this Answer to the
House: "That he had commanded the People, in the
King's Name, to be gone; and they are willing so to
do, but they say they dare not, because there is
Colonel Lunsdford, with other Soldiers, in Westminster
Hall, that lie in Wait for them, with their Swords
drawn; and that some of them that were going
through Westm. Hall Home, have been wounded and
cut in their Heads by the said Soldiers."
Committee appointed to enquire the Cause of the Tumult.
The House, taking this into Consideration, appointed
these Lords Committees following, to examine what
Warning hath been given to Soldiers to come down this
Day unto the Parliament House, and likewise what Notice hath been given to others to come down to Westm.
in Multitudes, and who gave the Occasion that Swords
were drawn, and Blows given, in Westm. Hall, and near
thereabouts, amongst the People; and to inquire why
the Justices of Peace, and other His Majesty's Officers,
did not prevent the Tumults this Day, according to
Law, and the Commands formerly given them.
The Names of the Committee: videlicet,
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The L. Steward.
The L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Chamberlain.
Comes Bedford.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Clare.
Comes Carnarvan.
Lo. Visc. Say & Seale.
Epus. London.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Cov. & Litchfeild.
Epus. Bath. & Wells. |
Ds. St. Johns.
Ds. Digby.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Dunsemore.
Ds. Seymour.
Ds. Mowbray.
Ds. Wentworth.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Howard de Charlton.
Ds. Robartes.
Ds. Pierpoint.
Ds. Howard de Estcrik.
Ds. Spencer. |
Their Lordships, or any Seven of them, to meet on
Tuesday, the 28th of December, 1641, at Nine
a Clock in the Morning, in the Painted Chamber, and when after they please.
The Lord Archbishop of Yorke reported the Heads
of the Conference; which, being read, were approved
of, and were to be communicated to the House of Commons.
The Messengers return this Answer from the House
of Commons:
Answer from the H. C.
That they will give a present Meeting [ (fn. *) as is desired],
in the Painted Chamber.
Hereupon the House was adjourned during Pleasure,
and the Lords went to the Conference; which being
ended, the House was resumed.
The Scots Propositions concerning Ireland.
Then the Lords Commissioners delivered in all the
Scotts Commissioners Propositions, which were read:
videlicet,
"Since it is desired that we should give in all our
Propositions concerning the Ten Thousand Men that
are to be sent out of Scotland into Ireland, we do
offer to your Considerations these following Propositions to those we have already given in.
"1. In respect that the Country is for the most Part
wasted by the Rebels, and that it is necessary, for the
better Provision and Safety of our Army, that there
be delivered unto us some Places convenient for the
preserving of our Victuals, and for Retreat in Case of
Necessity; it is therefore desired, that the Town and
Castle of Carrickfergus, Colraine, and Londonderry, be
put into our Hands, wherein we may plant Garrisons, and make Use of them, for Magazines of Victuals, Arms, and Munition, and for Retreat upon any
Occasion; and that the Magistrates and Inhabitants
thereof be ordained to carry themselves to any of
our Commanders there as is fit and ordinary in such
Cases, we giving Assurance to use them with all
Brotherly Kindness and Respect, and to give full Satisfaction for what we shall receive from them; and
that we shall make use of the said Places for the
Honour and Advantage of His Majesty and the Crown
of England, and faithfully restore them to any having
Commission from the King and Parliament, when the
War shall end; or that our Army shall be by them
discharged and satisfied of all Dues and Conditions
made in this present Treaty.
"2. That the Town of Carrickfergus, Colraine, and
London-Derry, be instantly provided with Victuals of
all Kinds, necessary for Soldiers, both for the Garrisons, and to furnish the Army, or any Part thereof,
in Expeditions into any Part of the Province, or
where they shall go, for Payment of such reasonable
Prices as shall be agreed upon; and that likewise
Powder, Bullet, and Match, be sufficiently provided,
for at least Six Thousand Musketeers, and Four and
Twenty or Thirty Pieces of good Ordnance; and that
there be Gunsmiths, and ingenious Carpenters, sent
thither, for the mending of Guns and Carriages, and
such like; One Engineer or Two to attend our Army;
and that some Hand-mills be provided for the Companies in Marches.
"3. That Horses be provided for the Baggage of
the Army and Train of Artillery, and Carts for Carriage of Bread, and other Provisions, for the Month;
and that, to make Dragooners, every Hundred Men
have Ten Horses appointed for them.
"4. That the Inhabitants of any Towns or Villages,
in any Province where our Army shall be, for the
Time, be appointed to receive Orders from our
Commanders, and to bring in Victuals for Money, in
an orderly Way, as shall be directed by them, with
Provisions of Oats, Hay, and Straw, and such other
Necessaries; and that, when it shall be found for the
Good of the Service, the Country People which are
not levied in Regiments be ordained to rise, and concur with our Troops, and receive Commands and
Directions from our Commanders.
"5. That the Troops of the Kingdom of Scotland
go in the Way and Order of an Army, under their
own General and Subaltern Officers; and that they
have a Circle, or Province, appointed them, which
they shall fall upon and assail, wherein they shall
prosecute the War as in their Judgement they shall
think expedient for the Honour of the King and
Crown of England; and that they have Power to give
Conditions to Towns, Castles, and Persons, which
shall render and submit themselves, as they shall find
for the Good of the Service wherein they are employed, which they shall oblige themselves faithfully
to do and perform to the uttermost of their Power,
and shall be answerable to His Majesty and the Parliament of England for their whole Deportment and
Proceedings, whereof they shall from Time to Time
give them an Account: That such Towns and Places
as shall be recovered from the Rebels by our Army
be at the disposing of our Commanders, during their
Abode there; and when it shall please God that the
Rebellion shall be suppressed in the Circle assigned to
our Army, they shall be ready to do Service in any
other Place which shall be appointed to them; and,
if it shall be found for the Good of the Service that
our Army join with the King's Lieutenant and his
Army, that our General shall only cede to the King's
Lieutenant of Ireland, and receive in a free and
honourable Way Instructions from him, or in his Absence from the Lord Deputy, or any other who shall
have the Government of that Kingdom by Authority
derived from the Crown of England, and shall precede all others, and only give Orders to the Officers
of his own Army; and that the Armies (fn. *)
the Right and Left Hand, Van, and Rear Charges,
and Retreat successively, and mix not in Quarterings
nor Marchings; and, if it shall be found fit to send
Troops out of either Army, that the Persons to be
sent out of our Army be appointed by their own General, the Lieutenant of Ireland prescribing the
Number, which shall not exceed the Fourth Part of
our Army, whereunto they shall return after the Service is done.
"And that no Officer of ours be commanded by
one of his own Quality; and, if the Commanders of
the Troops so sent out of either Army be of one
Quality, that they command the Party by Turns.
"6. That our Army be assured of Three Months
Pay, to be put in the Hands of Treasurers and Commissaries appointed by us at their Rendezvous in Ireland; and that, before that Time expires, there be a
Month's Pay put in their Hands, and so from Month
to Month; and in this, that our Brethren of England may be put to no more Charge than is just and
necessary, and that it may appear we offer our Assistance for Love only, we do desire that there be a
Muster-master appointed, to make strict and frequent
Musters of our Troops, and that their Ways be so
looked unto that they make no such unlawful Advantages.
"7. Seeing we have voluntarily and freely made
Offer of our Forces to this Service, and to transport
them to Ireland upon our own Charges, and will be
subject to all Hazards which may follow thereupon,
and will have the same Friends and Enemies with
England in this Employment, and must therein stand
and all with them, we expect and desire that the
King and State of England will take us in the same
Consideration, and reward our Service with the like
Honours, Recompences, and Plantations, as they shall
do the English or Irish who shall deserve well in this
Business; for, if we shall, with the Hazard of our
Lives, do good Service to His Majesty and the
Crown of England, it is most agreeable to Reason
that we be Sharers of the Fruits of our Pains, the
Persons so rewarded being always tied to the same
Conditions, and being subject to His Majesty and
Crown of England as the English are and shall
be.
"Sic subscribitur,
"Ja. Primrose."
Ordered, That these Propositions be debated Tomorrow.
Letter from the Council of Ireland, about Ships at Dunkirk being laded with Arms for Ireland.
Next, a Letter was read, written from the Council
of Ireland, to the Lord Lieutenant, dated the 30th of
November; the principal Contents whereof was, "That
they understand that there are Ships laden with Arms
and Ammunition at Dunkerk, to be carried to the Rebels
in Ireland; and that the Rebels are on both Sides of
Treda, which makes that Town in great Want for Victuals."
To be communicated to the H. C.
This Letter is to be communicated to the House of
Commons.
Further Information of Men and Arms at Dunkirk for the Rebels in Ireland.
The House was informed by the Earl of Warwicke,
"That he had received Information that there were
Four Ships laden at Dunkerke with Arms, and that
Men are providing there to be shipped for Ireland:"
Hereupon it is Ordered, That his Lordship be desired,
by the next Packet Boat that goes for those Parts, to
send over some discreet Men, to give true Informations
of the Preparations there.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Hungerford, Knight:
Message from the H. C. to join in a Petition to learn who the Informer of the Report was, concerning the Earl of Newport.
To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons are very willing to join with their Lordships, to
search the Business to the Bottom, touching the scandalous Report which hath been made to His Majesty of
the Earl of Newporte, and some Members of the House
of Commons; and the House of Commons do intreat
their Lordships to join with them in an humble Petition
to His Majesty, that He would be pleased to express
and discover who the Person is that did inform His Majesty thereof; and that His Majesty would be pleased
to move the Queen, that She would likewise reveal who
the Informer was of that false Report.
Petition to be drawn up for that Purpose.
Ordered, That this House will join with the House
of Commons in the Matter of this Conference; and
that the Committee appointed this Day to draw up
Heads for the Conference are likewise appointed to
meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of
the House of Commons, to make a Draught of a Petition to be presented to His Majesty concerning this Business, and the Committee to meet To-morrow Morning,
at Nine a Clock.
A Message was sent down to the House of Commons,
by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page:
Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with it.
To acquaint the House of Commons with the aforesaid Order.
More Tumults about the House.
The Gentleman Usher was sent again to the People
gathered together about the Parliament Houses, and was
to let them know, "That this House dislikes their
coming in Multitudes, and commands them to be gone;
and, if they have received Injury or Hurt by any
body, if they represent their Names to this House,
their Lordships will see that Justice be done."
The Messengers return with this Answer:
Answer from the H. C.
That the House of Commons will return an Answer,
in convenient Time, by Messengers of their own.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Hollis:
Further Answer.
That they have appointed a proportionable Number
of their House, to meet with the Lords Committees Tomorrow Morning, to prepare a Petition to present to
His Majesty, from both Houses, to desire Him that He
would be pleased to express who (fn. *) told Him of the
Report concerning the Earl of Newporte and some Members of the House of Commons; and that His Majesty
would be pleased to move the Queen to do the like.
Message to the H. C. for a Conference, concerning the Tumults about the Parliament.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Robert Rich and Dr. Bennett:
To desire a present Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses, if it may stand with their Conveniency,
concerning the Multitudes of People gathered about the
Houses of Parliament.
Committee to prepare Heads for it.
These Lords following were appointed to draw up
Heads for the Conference:
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The Archbp. of Yorke.
Comes Bathon.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bristoll.
L. Viscount Say & Seale. |
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Digby.
Ds. Robartes.
Ds. Savill.
Ds. Goringe. |
The Messengers return with this Answer:
Answer.
That the House of Commons will give a present
Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
The Committee reported the Heads for the Conference, which were read: videlicet,
Heads for the Conference.
"1. To desire the House of Commons to join with
this House in a Declaration, to be printed and published, of their Dislike of the assembling of the People
in such Companies and Disorders, about the Houses
of Parliament.
"2. To join with them in a Petition to His Majesty,
that the Houses of Parliament may have a Guard.
"3. To desire that the House of Commons will give
an Answer with such Speed as the Necessity of the
Occasion doth require."
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Arms to be sent to Ireland.
Ordered, That the Lord Steward, the Lord Great
Chamberlain, the Earl of Bath, the Earl of Bristoll,
and the Earl of Holland, do move His Majesty, That
He will be pleased to give Warrants to the Earl of
Newport, Master of the Ordnance, that Powder and
Armour and Ammunition be (fn. *) forthwith sent for the
Province of Munster, and other Places in the Kingdom
of Ireland, for His Service there, and the Defence of
that Kingdom.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis,
videlicet, 28m diem instantis Decembris, hora 2a post
meridiem, Dominis sic decernentibus.