Thursday, May 28, 1657.
Mr. Downing reported the Amendments to the Bill for
the borders of England and Scotland, (fn. 1) which were all passed
Mr. Bond moved, that it might be felony for any person
banished to return; which was resolved. (fn. 2)
Lord Whitlock presented a Bill in relation both to monies
and intelligence, viz. about the postage.
The Bill was read, and was entitled "A Bill for the settling of the postage of England, Scotland, and Ireland," and
appointed to be read the second time to-morrow morning.
Dr. Clarges moved against the second reading of the Bill.
Sir William Strickland. I move that the Bill for tithes
may be read, as was ordered. Though it be not a business
of monies, yet we say, decima et dives eris.
Mr. Secretary reported a message from the fleet, by Captain
Stayner, (fn. 3) who is a good man, and always brings good tidings.
I have here a paper of the particulars, in a letter to his Highness, I desire it may be read.
A narrative of the action at Santa Cruz, 50 slain outright, 150 wounded, of ours. (fn. 4)
Mr. Secretary. The captain that brought the news was
in the action, and said it was the hardest service that ever was.
The enemies thought themselves so secure, that they wished
the whole cause between us and Spain had depended upon
this. The silver was all unladen and on shore; but several
of the goods were taken. Not a ship was left, but all were
burnt or sunk. Though we had received no benefit by it;
yet certainly the enemy never had a greater loss. (fn. 5) It is the
Lord's doing, and the glory be his.
Lord Strickland. I hope the joy of the news causeth the
silence. I move that a day may be appointed for thanksgiving, and the captain that brought the news may be rewarded.
Dr. Clarges. I second the motion for a day of thanksgiving, and that not only the captain, but the General and
all the captains may be rewarded.
Mr. Rouse and Colonel Jones moved to have a day of public thanksgiving set apart, and offered Thursday next for a
day in London, and that day fortnight all the nation over.
Mr. Highland. Thursday is the Cloth-market day; (fn. 6) so
moved on Wednesday, which was resolved. (fn. 7)
Sir William Strickland. I move that, as a mark of your
favour, you reward the General with a sum of money, 500l.;
or a jewel, worth that sum I proportion it to your purse.
Mr. Secretary. I shall not move against that; but the
first thing in order is to appoint the ministers to preach. I
desire that Mr. Manton may be one.
Colonel Jones moved, that Mr. Carter might be the other
minister to preach; which was resolved accordingly. (fn. 8)
Lord Strickland stood up, and moved, that Mr. Caryl
might preach; but it was too late, there being but only two
The place appointed, Margaret's, Westminster; the day,
A Committee appointed to desire his Highness's consent.
Ordered, that the Narrative be printed. (fn. 9)
Sir William Strickland. I hope that, though my motion
was out of season, it shall now fare no worse for it, nor because it comes from me. I moved that 500l. might be given.
I did proportion it to your purse, and not to his merit.
Dr. Clarges. I move that you would not regard your poverty, or any other arguments, but reward him like a Parliament; and that the General may have 1500l. and the Captain 100l.
Mr. Butler moved, that he might have a jewel of 1000l.
Mr. Speaker. I would remind you of what you have done
in like cases. Naseby was great news, yet he (fn. 10) had but a
jewel of 500l.; and in other cases the like. Your purse was
Colonel White. One very near akin to this person told
me, he hath saved nothing by the service, but spent of his
own estate. (fn. 11) I desire he may have a jewel of 500l., and the
Colonel Jones. I do not measure the gift by his service:
for if so, 15,000l. may be more proportionable than 1500l.
Yet, this being a jewel, a special mark of your favour, (and
as you have done before in such cases,) the favour is more
than the value.
Resolved, that he have a jewel of 500l., (fn. 12) and that the Captain (fn. 13) have 100l.; and that care may be taken by the Council
for payment thereof.
Captain Mason moved, that every Captain in the Fleet
might have a medal of 10l. presented to him; but this motion
Mr. Downing and Mr. Moody moved, that a letter of thanks
might be writ by the Speaker, in the name of the House, to
the General, which was resolved accordingly; and Mr. Secretary and Mr. Downing were appointed to prepare the
letter. (fn. 14)
Colonel Edwards. I move that Captain Stayner may have
a jewel of 200l. He has been named, but not spoken of. (fn. 15)
Mr. Bond (and others). It is not fit to reward one, lest
you put a slight and disregard upon others. It will cause a
quarrel in the fleet. I wish you had monies to reward them
Colonel Jones moved, that some provision might be made
for the widows and orphans of such as have been slain in this
action. (fn. 16)
Mr. Bedford. Mr. Manton (fn. 17) is out of town, and will not
return this fortnight. So I move, that Mr. Jacob may
preach in his stead.
Lord Strickland moved, that Mr. Caryl might preach.
Colonel Holland and Major-General Whalley moved, that
the vote of thanks might be given to the officers of the
fleet, as well as to the general; and that the collections for
the poor that day might be distributed to the widows and
orphans. But this was thought a poor motion, to reward
our soldiers' wives by going a begging for them.
Dr. Clarges. I move that Mr. Denn, a member of the
House, (fn. 18) being prosecuted at law by one Michael Beavor, an
attorney, may have his privilege.
Mr. Denn stood up, and said, this Beavor, in Michaelmas
term, had caused him to be sued to exigent, (fn. 19) and had promised to forbear prosecution; and thereupon he, Mr. Denn,
thought to have passed it by.
But, it seems, he prosecutes it still against him; and, therefore, he moved that it might be assigned him his privilege.
Resolved, that Beavor be sent for, in custody, as a delinquent. (fn. 20)
The Bill for assessments upon Scotland was read, and appointed to be read a second time on Saturday next.
Mr. Bedford offered his Report for Recusants.
Mr. Speaker called for the Bill for Irish Assessments, but
it being not ready—
Mr. Bedford went on, and made his Report.
It happened that Mr. Speaker spied the last sheet of the
old Bill lost, viz. prima vice, and altera vice, lecta, which is a
part of the record, and the clerk's warrant. He therefore
informed the House of it.
Lord Whitlock. Some particular order may be made (according as the truth is; and as in our private capacities we all
know,) to help this casual accident. It may be supplied that
way, for saving your time; or, otherwise, you must read the
other Bill the first and second time.
Mr. Bedford acknowledged his ignorance; being a young
Parliament-man, he was ignorant as other men, and nothing
being writ on that leaf, it was casually lost.
Mr. Lechmere. This is a new case. The entry is the record thereby to know that this is the Bill that was committed; and though you may find by the Journal the days of
the first and second reading, yet you cannot tell that this was
Lord Strickland. This is such a formality as may shake
all your foundation, and I had rather read a Bill twenty times
over than lay such a precedent.
Mr. Bedford went out and found a dirty paper in his
lodgings, as he said, with the indorsement, and brought it in.
Mr. Speaker. Your formalities are the very essence of Parliaments, and you ought to be tender in this case.
Mr. Godfrey. I move to read the Bill over again, rather
than lay a foundation for such a precedent. Though you
have a dirty paper before you, yet you cannot tell whether
this be the same sheet that belongs to that Bill.
Mr. Bedford. I am certain that this is the same paper, and
aver it upon my reputation to be the same.
Lord Whitlock. As there is a care to be had of the circumstances and formalities, as the essence of your proceedings, we are also to credit what a member says, and be tender
of him. A great deal of credit, and honour, and respect, are
to be given to one another. He has averred it upon his
credit. I desire you would credit him. I can witness for
him, that he has taken great care and pains in the business.
Mr. Bampfield. I move that the first amendments may be
read, for there are amendments upon amendments.
Lord Chief-Justice Glynn. By this it seems the whole Bill
was committed, and all altered but the title; so you ought to
pass the old amendments as well as the new.
After a debate upon the order of their proceedings pro et
contra, the debate was adjourned till to-morrow morning, nothing to intervene, and the House rose at one o'clock.