House of Lords Journal Volume 9
20 May 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 20 May 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 9: 1646 (1767-1830), pp. 199-200. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37039 Date accessed: 03 September 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 20 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Price.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Northumb.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Suffolke.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.

Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall, Ordinance.

An Ordinance for giving a Salary to the Treasurers at Gouldsmithes Hall, was read Thrice, and Agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

Sir J. Norris charged with embezzling the Public Money.

This Day Nicholas Deane, upon Oath, at this Bar, did charge Sir John Norris, "That he hath taken Money to his own Use, and hath defrauded the State of it."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That Sir John Norris shall be summoned to appear before this House, to answer the said Charge.

Potter's Order for 1755 l.

The Order concerning paying of One Thousand Seven Hundred Fifty-five Pounds to Daniell Potter, was read, and Agreed to; and Ordered to bear Date the 1 May, 1647. (Here enter it.)

Ordinance for the Committee for Irish Affairs at Derby House.

The Ordinance for transferring the Powers of the Committee for the Irish Affairs at the Star-chamber to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House, was read, and Agreed to; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence therein.

Col. Manwaring, and Hide & al. his Creditors.

The House this Day heard the Counsel of the Creditors of Colonel Manwaringe, concerning his Protection which he hath from this House.

And it was alledged, "That Colonel Manwaring being no menial Servant to any Peer or Assistant to this House, nor no Officer to this House; and that he was outlawed, after a Judgment, before the Date of his Protection granted him by this House:"

Hereupon this House Ordered, That Colonel Manwaringe is left to the ordinary Proceedings which his Creditors have against him upon Execution.

Foot and Kendrick, late Sheriffs, sued by Richards, for Col. Manwaring's Escape.

Upon reading the Petition against Alderman Foote and Alderman Kendricke, late Sheriffs of London; and hearing what Mr. Reading said at this Bar, concerning Richards, who sueth them for an Escape of Colonel Manwaringe, who hath the Protection of this House:

It is Ordered, That it is referred to these Lords Committees following, to hear what Proof can be made on both Sides, of the Matter of Fact; and to report the same to this House:

Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Rutland.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Willoughby.

Any Two, to meet when they please; and to adjourn from Time to Time, as they think fit; and to have Power to send for such Persons as they shall think fit.

Debate on the King's Letter.

The King's Letter, which came on Tuesday last, was read this Day again.

And this Question was put, "Whether to adjourn this House into a Committee, to debate concerning the King's Removal from Holdenby, nearer London, before their Lordships go to consider of the whole Matter of the Letter?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

The Lord Wharton and the Lord Willoughby were appointed to be Tellers of the Votes: And the Lord Wharton reported, "That the Contents were Fifteen, and the Not Contents were Nine."

Then the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to debate the Matter, according to the former Vote.

The House being resumed;

This Question was put, "Whether the King shall be brought from Holdenby, nearer to London, before such Time as their Lordships consider of the whole Matter of the Letter?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

The King to be removed to Oatlands:

The Question being put, "Whether Oatlands shall be the Place where the King shall be removed from Holdenby?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to the H. C. about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler:

To let them know, that this House hath Resolved, That the Person of the King be removed from Holdenby, to Oatlands, as soon as the Place can be made ready for Him; wherein their Concurrence is desired.

Ordinance for Indemnity of Officers, &c. who have served in this War.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Indemnity of the Officers and Soldiers shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow.

Ordered, That the King's Letter shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Message to the H. C. with the following Letter.

A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners was read, and Ordered to be recommended to the House of Commons.

Which accordingly was delivered to Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler, to be delivered to the House of Commons To-morrow Morning.

Letter from the Scots Commissioners, recommending the E. of Ancram to have the Arrears of his Pension.

"To the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro Tempore.

"Right Honnorable,

"The Earle of Ancram, for many Yeares haveing faithfully served His Majesty, as Gentleman of His Bed-camber, since the Begining of these Troubles hath constantly adhered to the Parliament; for which he hath suffered much from the Enemy in his Estate, whereby he hath bin forced in these Tymes to contract greate Debts, for Maintenance of himselfe, his Noble Lady, and many Children; and is now brought to such Extremityes, as he is neither able to provide for their Entertainment, nor to sattisfy his Creditors, unlesse the Honnorable Houses shal be pleased to give Order for Payment of his Lordship's Pension, whereof there is a considerable Summe due in Arreare. The Parliament of Scotland hath severall Tymes recommended his Lordship to the Honnorable Houses; and now againe, according to their Directions, wee doe earnestly intreate that they will be pleased to take his Condition seariously into Consideration, and to appoint such a certaine Way for Payment of the Arrears to his Lordship, and of his Pension for the future, as he and is Family may be enabled to subsist, and to give Satisfaction to his Creditors; which shall exceedingly obleige

Worcester House, the 17th of May, 1647.

"Your Lordship's
Most humble Servaunts,
Charles Erskine.
Hew Kennedy. Ro. Barclay."

Ordinance for 1755 l. to Potter.

"1 Maii, 1647.

"Be it this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That One Thousand Seven Hundred Fifty and Five Pounds, due unto Daniell Potter from the Parliament, be paid in Course, out of the Receipts at Gouldsmiths Hall, together with Interest for the same at the End of every Six Months, unto the said Daniell Potter, his Assignee or Assigns; and if any Person or Persons shall lend the said Daniell Potter any Part or Parcel thereof, that every such Person or Persons, their respective Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be satisfied and reimbursed the several and respective Sums so lent, out of the Receipts at Gouldsmiths Hall, in Course as aforesaid, with Interest for the same, at the End of every Six Months, from the Time of the Loan thereof, or of any Part thereof; and the Receipt or Receipts of the said Daniell Potter, his Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, to whom the respective Monies lent shall be paid, together with the particular Receipt or Receipts of the Persons that lent the same, or of their Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be to the Treasurers at Gouldsmiths Hall their sufficient Warrant and Discharge, for Payment of the said One Thousand Seven Hundred Fifty and Five Pounds, and Interest, or any Part or Parcel thereof, accordingly: And it is hereby further Ordained, That the said Daniell Potter shall have no Benefit of the Ordinance dated 3 Augusti, 1644, for Payment of Monies unto Handicraftsmen and others."

Ordinance for an Allowance for Mess. Waring and Herring, Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall.

"Forasmuch as Mr. Richard Wareinge Grocer, and Michaell Herring Merchant, Citizens of London, have formerly been employed, and are, by Ordinance of Parliament, of the Sixth Day of February, 1646, appointed Treasurers, for receiving all such Monies as have or shall be paid into Gouldsmiths Hall, by any Persons, by Way of Fine and Composition for their Delinquencies, as also for Goods bought, and Monies borrowed, on the Credit of the said Treasury, for which there is no Provision of any Salary or Allowance in the said Ordinance to be made unto them, for their Care and Travail in the said Employment: It is hereby Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the said Mr. Wareinge and Mr. Herringe shall have, out of all such Receipts as have been paid in until the Sixth Day of February, 1646, One Penny in the Pound; and out of all such Monies as have been, or shall be, paid into the said Treasury, upon Fines and Compositions with Delinquents, from the said Sixth Day of February, 1646, (fn. *) Three Half-pence in the Pound: And be it further Ordained, That the Commissioners sitting at Gouldsmiths Hall for compounding with Delinquents be hereby authorized and enabled to make such Allowance unto any Person or Persons who have been, or shall be, employed in that Service, as they shall judge convenient; and to satisfy all such Charges as shall accrue for the providing of all necessary Accommodation, for the better managing and carrying on of the said Service: And it is hereby further Ordered and Ordained, That the Committee of Accompts sitting in Cornhill do, from Time to Time, receive and audit the Accompts of the said Treasurers, as they shall present the same unto them; and make Report thereof to both Houses."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

Footnotes

* Origin for There Half-pence