House of Lords Journal Volume 9
10 December 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 10 December 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 9: 1646 (1767-1830), pp. 567-570. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37183 Date accessed: 26 July 2014.


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DIE Veneris, 10 die Decembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Salawey.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Salisbury.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. North.
Ds. La Warr.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Howard.

Grey's Ordinance to be Minister of Ibstock.

Ordered, That an Ordinance be drawn up, to present Mr. Job Grey Cleric. to the Parsonage of Ibstocke, in the County of Leycester, and brought into this House.

Folks versus Sterling.

Upon reading the Report of the Judges, in the Case of Thomas Folkes, against Anthony Starlinge:

(Here enter it.)

It is Ordered, That this House approves of this Report.

Petition from Ireland.

A Petition was presented to this House, by divers Lords and Gentlemen of the Kingdom of Ireland, in Behalf of the Necessities of that Kingdom, in regard of the Want of Provisions and Money. (Here enter it.)

Irish Seas to be well guarded.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Admiralty do send Directions to those that have the Guarding of the Irish Seas, to have a great Care to the well-guarding those Seas.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the Irish Petition.

That this House is very sensible of the Miseries of the Kingdom of Ireland; and their Lordships will use their uttermost Endeavours for the supplying that Kingdom with those Things mentioned in this Petition: That this House have ordered the Commissioners of the Navy to send Directions to those that have the Guarding of those Seas, to have a special Care of those Seas.

Committee to prepare Heads for a Conference on this Petition; and to provide a Supply for the Army, to prevent their taking Free Quarter.

Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons To-morrow Morning, and then to communicate to the House of Commons this Petition now received concerning Ireland; and also concerning the Supply of the Army with a constant Pay, and against Free Quarter; and that these Lords do meet, and prepare what shall be said at the said Conference:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Salisbury.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Mulgrave.
Ds. North.

Any Three; to meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Bamfeild Baronet, &c.:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance concerning Plymouth. (Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees to this Ordinance.

Message from the H. C. for a longer Time to bring up the Articles against the impeached Lords; and with an Order.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Mildmay:

That, in regard of the great Affairs of the Kingdom, they desire their Lordships would please to give them a further Time, to bring up the Articles against the Seven impeached Lords.

2. To desire Concurrence in an Order for Four Hundred Pounds, in the Hands of the Committee formerly appointed for the Sale of Wood, to be paid to the maimed Soldiers. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That to the Order now brought up, this House agrees to it: As to the other Part of this Message, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Impeachment against the Seven Lords.

Ordered, That the Business of the Seven Lords impeached by the House of Commons shall be taken into Consideration on Tuesday next; and all the Lords to be warned, to attend the House then.

Parnacot and Teate.

Ordered, That the Errors in the Writ of Error between Parnacott and Teate shall be argued on Monday next.

Ordinance for 10,000 l. more for Plymouth Garrison.

"Whereas, by an Ordinance of Parliament, bearing Date the 23th Day of June, 1647, for the Raising of Monies, to be employed towards the Maintenance of Forces within this Kingdom, under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefax Knight, and for the speedy transporting of and paying the Forces for the carrying on the War of Ireland, there is Sixty Thousand Pounds to be Monthly raised, for the Uses aforesaid; of which said Sum of Sixty Thousand Pounds per Month, there is the Sum of Three Thousand Five Hundred Twenty and Seven Pounds, Six Shillings, and One Penny Half-penny, to be Monthly taxed and levied upon the County of Devon; and whereas, by an Ordinance of Parliament of the 26th of August, 1647, there was Eight Thousand Pounds ordered to be paid towards the Arrears of the Garrison of Plymouth, which are in Arrear from the 25th Day of March, 1647: It is hereby further Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds (over and above the said Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds) be charged upon the Credit of the said Assessment of the said Ordinance of Sixty Thousand Pounds Monthly; and that the several and respective Collectors and Receivers of the said several and respective Sums so to be taxed and levied upon the said County of Devon do, forthwith upon Receipt hereof, out of the First Money they shall so levy and receive, pay unto the Committee of the said County of Devon (over and above the said Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds) the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds, for and towards the Paying of the said Garrison of Plymouth, and for and towards the Reducing and Disbanding thereof, the Fort and Island and Mount Batten only excepted, which are not to be disbanded, but to continue in Pay, under the Command of Colonel Ralph Welden the present Governor; and that thereupon the Committee of the County of Devon for the Time being do pay the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds to the Governor of the Garrison of Plymouth aforesaid, and to the Mayor of the Town of Plymouth, upon Accompt, for the Payment of the Arrears, and Disbanding of the said Garrison of Plymouth, as aforesaid (any Order or Ordinance to the contrary hereof in any Wise notwithstanding); and that this Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge to the said Collectors and Receivers, for the Payment of the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds as aforesaid: Provided nevertheless, That whereas the Third and Fourth Months of the said Assessment of Sixty Thousand Pounds per Mensem is already engaged for the said Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds, and in Security for Monies borrowed by the Committee of the Army, the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds shall be levied and collected out of the First Monies that shall come in upon the Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth, and Tenth Months, and not otherwise."

Order for 440 l. for sick and wounded Soldiers.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Committee formerly appointed for the Sale of Wood do forthwith pay, unto the Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, the Sum of Four Hundred and Forty Pounds, remaining in Arrear under their Power, to be issued for the Relief of the said sick and maimed Soldiers, and for providing and Payment of Medicaments for their Cure."

Petition of Irish Nobility and others here, praying the 20,000 l. ordered for Leinster, and 10,000 l. for Ulster, may be immediately sent over;—for an Ordinance to be passed for Relief of Ireland;—and for Ships to be sent to Guard the Irish Seas.

"To the Right Honourable the House of Peers assembled in the High Court of Parliament.

"The humble Petition of divers of the Protestant Nobility and Gentry, of the Kingdom of Ireland, now attending in and about London;

"Humbly shewing,

"That when (by rendering of the City of Dublin and the other Garrisons thereupon depending) all the Brittish and Protestant Inhabitants and Forces in Ireland became under the Rule and Protection of the Parliament, great were the Comforts apprehended by the Protestants there, of the happy Fruits thereof, in a vigorous Prosecution of the War; and great were the Fears and Terrors apprehended thereat by the Rebels. And we do most humbly and thankfully acknowledge the Wisdom and Piety of the Parliament, in sending Forces and Provisions thither; which Forces, and the Forces formerly there, and now joined with them, have lately (by the Blessing of God) obtained great and even miraculous Victories against those Monsters of Men (whose unprovoked, horrid Rebellion was accompanied with such and so great and barbarous Cruelties as no Age or Nation can parallel); for which great Victories, we bless and praise The Eternal Majesty.

"But so it is, may it please your Lordships, that we observe, by several sad Advertisements forth of Ireland (to our unspeakable Grief and Sorrow), that those Armies, whom God hath so blessed with such happy Successes, are (for Want of Means to support them) reduced to very great Extremities; and particularly that at Dublin and thereabouts (where the Rebels have burned and destroyed the small Circuit of the Quarters) the Miseries of the Soldiers and Inhabitants are such, as the Markets are disturbed, the Passages leading thereunto beset, the Corn in the Country which did supply them destroyed and burnt, the Troops in that Want that few of them are able to shoe their Horses, the Foot naked for Want of Cloaths, and both Horse and Foot enduring all Kinds of Misery that accompany Wants; that, the next Week after the Burning of the Corn in the Country by the Rebels, the Price of Corn arose at Dublin from Twenty-four Shillings to Three Pounds a Quarter; that the small Remainder of Corn there is in a Manner already so exhausted, as it will not be had there at any Rates; that that City (in all Times the chief Honour and Beauty of that Kingdom) is now, by the present Miseries of the distressed Soldiers and alike distressed Inhabitants, become a lamentable Spectacle of Desolation and Misery: And great Pity it is, that those Soldiers who are Persons of so great Valour and Merit, and those Inhabitants who have so chearfully contributed to their Support whilst they were any way able, should be now reduced to so great Wants and Miseries. And finally, that to such an extreme Height of Misery are both Army and Inhabitants brought, as (if Supplies be not speedily sent) it is feared they will be both enforced suddenly to desert the Place, and ship themselves from thence as they can get Opportunity; whence must then unavoidably follow the Loss of the whole Province of Lemster, and therein of the City and Castle of Dublin, which then will fall into the Hands of the Rebels, to the endangering of the Loss of the whole Kingdom, which were to the Kingdom of England an unspeakable Dishonour, Loss, and Danger: That, for that End, the Traitor Owen Roe O'Neile lies with a considerable Army of Horse and Foot not far from Dublin, watching all Opportunities, and (well knowing the Necessities of the English Army) declines fighting, lest so (being overthrown) he should thereby become disappointed of those the Rebels dangerous Aims and Expectations.

"And considering those dreadful Consequences which may happen by the said Extremities and Wants; and that, in such Case, the Charge of raising, arming, furnishing, and transporting such Numbers of new Forces thither, as might be competent but to re-gain the present Footing, and to restore England but to their present Condition there, would (besides the Occasion of a greater Effusion of English Blood) be as great a Charge as that, which (now in short Time seasonably applied) may make a fair Progress to the full Subduing of the Rebels; and considering also, that we humbly conceive that the future Safety and Happiness of England are so chained and interwoven with that of Ireland, as the Good or Evil of either must necessarily become common to both;

"We, therefore, out of zealous and dutiful Affection to the Good and Safety of both Kingdoms, do humbly crave Leave to make known to your Lordships those sad Advertisements lately come thence; and humbly to beseech that (in Prevention of those great and general Mischiefs which we doubt and fear will otherwise happen) the Twenty Thousand Pounds voted for the Army in Lemster immediately after the Victory there lately gained by Colonel Jones, and the Ten Thousand Pounds voted for Munster after the Victory there lately gained by the Lord Inchiquin, and such further Supplies as in your Wisdom shall be judged fit for Ulster and Connaught, may with all Speed be hastened away in present; and that some settled Course may by your Lordships be prescribed, not only for the future constant Maintenance of all the Forces now in that Kingdom, but also of such additional Forces to be speedily after sent thither, as your Lordships shall find necessary for carrying on the War so vigorously and powerfully as may in short Time determine the Charge of England there; and to that End we humbly beseech, that whereas the Relief of Ireland is mentioned in the Ordinance of Sixty Thousand Pounds per Mensem (out of which that Kingdom hath not as yet, for aught we know, received any Supply, and perhaps conveniently cannot in regard of your other great and weighty Occasions, that now there may be a particular Ordinance for the Relief of Ireland placed upon such Parts of this Kingdom as to your Wisdoms shall seem meet, and special Collectors and Treasurers appointed to receive the same, that so it may with what Expedition is possible be applied towards Reduction of that Kingdom, and which in Appearance is now, by God's Mercy, made more easy (if timely prosecuted) than it was at any Time since the Rebellion broke forth: And we also humbly beseech, that those that command the Parliament's Ships may have strict Charge, so to guard the Seas between England and Ireland, as to render Safety against the Rebels Frigates to those that usually trade to and from thence, whereby Provisions may with the more Freedom be carried thither for the Relief of the Inhabitants and Soldiers, and particularly the Seas between Dublin and Drougheda and those Parts on the one Side, and Chesheir and Lancasheir and Wales on the other Side, which Seas are now of late much infested by the Rebels Frigates, not only to the Danger of interrupting Trade, but also of hindering that frequent Correspondence and Intelligence which is necessary to be held between England and those Parts of Ireland: All which Charges (by the Blessing of God) will be abundantly recompensed in Honour, Profit, and Security, to the Kingdom of England and to the Protestant Religion, and in great Advantage and Profit to the Soldiery to be employed in that War, and to all particular Adventurers therein.

"And the Petitioners shall pray, &c.

"Hen. Bathon.
Ardglasse.
Conway & Kilulta.
A. Ranulagh.
V. Cromwell.
Edw. Brabson.
Kerry.
William Caulfeild.
Edw. Blaney.
Will'm Parsons.
Ad. Loftus.
Gerrard Lowther.
Rob't Hannay.
Arthur Blundell.
Hardresse Waller.
Francis Willoughby.
Arthur Loftus.
Thomas Clayton.
Geo. Blundell.
James Mountgom'y.
Randall Hill.
Calcott Chambre.
John Ward.
Thomas Dutton.
William Tynte.
George Blunt.
Symon Needham.
Phane Becher.
John Loftus.
Robert King.
Rob't Merideth.
Paule Davis.
Thomas Staples.
Edw. Povy.
James Castle.
Luke Brady.
Alexander Gering.
John Sharpe.
George Bunbury.
Math. Derenzy.
Thomas White.
Will'm Sambach.
Arthur Hill.
John Davis.
Will'm Parsons.
Fenton Parsons.
Edw. Terleton.
Roger West.
Stephen Crow.
George Carleton.
John Freeman.
Richard Southwick.
John Fenwick.
Richard Warberton.
John Bunbury.
John Madden.
John Stewart.
James Rainalds."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.