DIE Lunæ, 8 Maii.
Earl of Manchester, Speaker.
Keeper of Windsor Park committed.
Ordered, That the Keeper of Windsor Park, sent
for at the Complaint of Mr. Maxwell, shall be committed to Newgate, until the Pleasure of this House be
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons on
Saturday return with this Answer:
That they have delivered their Message to the House
Sequestration of Shoreditch from Mr. Squire.
Ordered, That this House will hear Mr. Squire,
Vicar of Shoreditch, concerning his Answer to the Charge
in the Sequestration passed by this House, on Friday
next; at which Time the Parishioners are likewise to
attend this House.
The Speaker acquainted this House, "That Mr. Cary
had brought him a Letter from the Lord Viscount
Falkland;" which he read, as followeth:
Ld. Falkland's Letter, with a Message from the King, about the Bill for a Subscription to reduce the Irish Rebels.
"I am commanded, by His Majesty, to convey to
your Lordships His Majesty's inclosed Message to both
Houses of Parliament, occasioned by a Bill delivered
to His Majesty, from both Houses, by Sir Rob't Kinge,
Mr. Jepson, and Mr. Hill; and, this done, I remain,
"Very humble Servant,
Oxford, 5th of May, 1643.
Next, the Message was read. ( (fn. *) Here enter it.)
Message to the H. C. for Committees to consider of it.
The House Agreed, To communicate this Message to
the House of Commons; and to desire that the Committee of both Houses may be appointed to consider of
this Message, and meet this Afternoon; and that they
may come neither prepossessed nor engaged, but deliver
their Opinions to the Houses.
Message from the H. C. that Judge Mallet may be remanded to The Tower;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Denzell Holles, Esquire:
"That whereas Mr. Justice Mallett was formerly, as
a dangerous Person, committed to The Tower, by the
Committee for the Safety, consisting of Lords and
Commons; and they having received Information, on
Saturday last, that he is released, and permitted to
be at his Chamber at Serjeants Inne: Hereupon the
House of Commons, knowing him to be a dangerous
Person, and One who hath some Power in the
Western Parts, where the Waters are troubled already, whither if he should escape, he might do a
great deal of Mischief; therefore the House of Commons were resolved, on Saturday, to come up to
their Lordships, to desire that he might be remanded
unto The Tower; but, because their Lordships were
risen before they could come up, the House of Commons thought it fit to secure his Person until they
could come up to their Lordships; and now they do
desire that their Lordships would give Order that
Mr. Justice Mallet may be remanded to The Tower of
and for a Conference about a Declaration concerning the Treaty.
"2. The House of Commons desires that their Lordships would give a Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses, touching a Declaration to be published
concerning the Treaty with His Majesty."
Agreed, To give a present Conference.
Judge Mallet remanded to The Tower.
The Lords taking the Reasons of the House of Commons into Consideration, touching Mr. Justice Malett;
Ordered, That Mr. Justice Mallett shall be presently
remanded to The Tower of London, there to remain
during the Pleasure of this House.
The Answer returned was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House, having considered of the Reasons
brought up now concerning Mr. Justice Mallett, do
agree to them; and have Ordered, That Justice Mallett shall be remanded to The Tower of London.
Touching their Desire of a Conference, their Lordships will give a present Conference, in the Painted
Chamber, as is desired.
Message to the H. C. for a Conference on the King's Message.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Aylett and Dr.
To desire a present Conference, touching a Message
received from the King.
Countess of Rivers's Horses, taken away by Col. Marten, to be restored.
The House was informed, "That the Countess of
Rivers hath had her Horses taken away this Day by
Colonel Marten, though she is the Wife of a Peer,
and hath a Protection from this House, and hath received great Losses:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That, at the next Conference, to let the House
of Commons know the Particulars of the Business; and
that their Lordships have Power themselves to restore
these Horses, and to right themselves herein; but, in
regard that Colonel Marten is One of the Members of
the House of Commons, their Lordships (fn. *) do forbear to
take any Course therein before they had acquainted
them therewith; and desire them to take (fn. †) Order that
Colonel Marten may restore the Horses.
Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Bennett and Dr. Heath:
To desire that, at the next Conference, their Lordships may impart unto them some Things concerning the
Countess of Rivers.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons returned this Answer:
Answer from thence.
That the House of Commons will give a present Conference, as is desired.
The Messengers return with this Answer from the
House of Commons:
That (fn. ‡) they will hear what their Lordships will deliver at the next Conference, concerning the Countess
Committee to consider of the King's Message.
The Lords following were appointed Committees, to
meet with a proportionable Number of the House of
Commons, to consider of the King's Message read this
L. Viscount Conway.
Any Five, to meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock.
The Lords went to the Conference; which being
ended, the House was resumed.
Serjeant Whitfeild reported to be gone to the King;
The House was informed, "That there is a Man in
Kente, that hath reported Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild is
gone to the King, and forsaken the Parliament; upon
this Rumour, his Tenants forbear to pay him any
Rents, and his Estate is in Danger to be seized on:"
Delinquents sent for, who said so.
Hereupon this House Ordered, That the said Person
should be sent for, to answer the same to this House.
Mrs. Jermy, a Pass.
Ordered, That Mrs. Jermy shall have a Pass, to
come from Oxford to London, and to go from London into
King's Message, about the Bill for reducing the Irish Rebels.
"His Majesty hath, with great Deliberation, considered and weighed a Bill lately presented to Him by
Sir Robert King Knight, and William Jephson and Arthur Hill Esquires, from both Houses of Parliament,
intituled, "An Act for the speedy Payment of Monies, subscribed towards the Reducing of the Rebels in
Ireland, which yet remains unpaid:" And though,
in these miserable Times of Distraction, when there
are Armies (pretended to be levied by Order of both
Houses) almost in every County of the Kingdom, and
all the good old Laws, the Observation whereof
would preserve the Public Peace, violated and suppressed; when the Treaty, hopefully begun towards
a happy Peace, is broken, and the Committee re-called
by both Houses, as if they intended no further Overture for laying down Arms, but to decide all Differences by the Sword; the World will easily judge
whether His Majesty might not well deny to consent
to any new Act of Parliament, the much major Part
of both Houses being by Force and Violence driven
and kept from those Councils, and His Majesty himself not suffered to be present: Yet, such is His Compassion of Soul towards His poor Protestant Subjects
of that His Kingdom of Ireland, that He would gladly
entertain any Expedient, whereby it might be evident the Condition of that Kingdom might be relieved, and the Distractions of this in no Danger of
being increased; and therefore His Majesty desires to
be satisfied in these Particulars:
"1. How the great and vast Sums of Monies already
raised by the several Acts of Parliament for the Relief of Ireland, and which by the Acts ought not to
be employed to any other Purpose than Reducing of
the Rebels, until they shall be declared to be subdued, have been expended; His Majesty having been
informed that no less than One Thousand Pounds of
that Money was, by One Order of One or both
Houses, issued for the Maintenance of the Army
which hath given Him Battle, under the Command of
the Earl of Essex?
"2. How His Majesty shall be secured, that the
Money, which by His Majesty's Consent shall be
raised for the Support of His Army in Ireland, shall
not for the future be diverted from that Use, and
employed against Him in this Kingdom?
"3. Whether it be just to compel His good Subjects, who have subscribed, to pay those Subscriptions, when as, at the Time they did subscribe, they
conceived themselves absolved from their Undertaking, if at any Time they were content to forfeit
the Sum mentioned in that Act; for His Majesty doth
not conceive that, by that Act, they are liable to pay
the whole Subscriptions, but to submit to the Penalty enjoined; and then His Majesty is not satisfied,
that, by a new Law, it can be just to compel them to
what at the First they undertook voluntarily, and it
may be would not have undertaken but upon the
Liberty they conceived to be then left them?
"4. Whether the Power given by this new Bill to
Warner, Towse, and Andrewes (Persons of whose Integrity and Affection to the Public Peace His Majesty
is in no Degree satisfied), be not too great; any Certificate of theirs being Ground enough to extend the
Estate of any Subject in England, whether he ever
underwrit or no?
"5. Whether, all Lands extended by virtue of this
Act being to continue in Extent till all Forfeitures be
satisfied, it may not be very prejudicial to Creditors
to whom those Lands are liable, and so the common
Justice may be disturbed?
"6. Whether, by this Act, the Extents being not to
be avoided or delayed for Omission of any Lands, the
same may not be prejudicial to all Purchasers; and
whether it be not against the known Course of the
"His Majesty desires to receive Satisfaction from
both Houses of Parliament in these Particulars, with all
possible Expedition; and then He shall give all the
World an Account how sensible He is of the Misery
of Ireland, and how desirous He is to find or embrace any Way for their Relief; the best, if not the
only, Way to which His Majesty conceives would
be, by a good and blessed Accommodation of the
lamentable Distractions of this Kingdom; which, if
the Matter of His Majesty's last Message were so
entertained as His Majesty hoped and expected,
might, (fn. *) by the Blessing of God, in a short Time be
House adjourned till 9 a cras.