DIE Mercurii, 17 die Maii.
Earl of Manchester, Speaker.
Answer from the H. C. about the Archbishop of Canterbury's Jurisdiction; and for a Conference.
The Messengers sent Yesterday to the House of Commons return with this Answer:
That they agree with their Lordships in the Order
for sequestering the Power and Jurisdiction of the Archbishop of Cant. and that they will give a Conference
this Morning. (Here enter the Order.)
L. Lovelace, Leave to be absent.
Ordered, That the Lord Lovelace hath Leave to
go to his House at Hurley, and return on Thursday come
Sequestration of Stanford Rivers from Dr. Meredith.
Ordered, That Dr. Meredith, Parson of Stanford
Rivers, in Essex, shall be permitted to receive the Profits of the Living, till the Time of the Sequestration.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about Scotch Affairs;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Grey of Rutbin:
To desire a present Conference, concerning the Affairs of Scotland.
and with an Order.
2. They desired their Lordships Concurrence with
them in an Order concerning Monies contributed for
The said Order was read, and agreed to.
(Here enter it.)
The Answer returned was:
That this House agrees with the House of Commons
in the Order now brought up; and that their Lordships
will give a present Conference, as is desired, in the
Mr. Howard's Pass renewed.
Ordered, That Mr. Howard's Pass, for his going
into France, shall be renewed, and bear Date as this
Sequestration of Fyfield, from Mr. Reade.
Upon the humble Petition of Alexander Reade, Parson of Fifeild; in the County of Essex: It is Ordered,
That the Minister that is appointed to officiate that Cure
for Six Months shall make Choice of a convenient Chamber to reside in during the Six Months; and the said
Doctor Reade is to pay for the Rent of the same: And
it is further Ordered, That Doctor Reade shall nominate Two Men, and the Minister Two Men more, to
be indifferent Persons, for receiving the Profits and
Tithes of the said Living of Fyfeild.
Mr. May's Mare to be restored.
Ordered, That the Lord General be desired to give
Order, That Mr. Maye's Mare, taken by Bulmer the
Scout, may be restored to him.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Report of the Conference concerning Scotch Affairs.
The Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference;
which was, "To communicate some Instructions to be
given to Mr. Welden, who is to be sent into Scotland
from the Two Houses of Parliament."
The Instructions were read. (Here enter them.)
"2. An Order was read, to authorize Michaell Welden
to go into Scotland." (Here enter it.)
"3. An Order was read, That the English Commissioners should deliver a Copy of the Letter of the Six
Lords to the Secret Council of Scotland."
(Here enter it.)
"4. The Committees Report of His Majesty's
Answer to both their Papers delivered to Him
at Oxford, concerning the Commissioners for
Conservation of Peace sent from Scotland:
"The Committee of Lords and Commons, attending His Majesty at Oxford upon the Treaty, having
presented to Him a Paper concerning the Scotish
Commissioners, His Majesty told them, That that
Paper was no Part of the Treaty; and that He
would send an Answer to it, by Messengers of His
own, to the Houses.
"The Committee acquainted His Majesty, That
they had something to offer Him concerning the Scotish
Commissioners, and presented to Him the Second Paper about that Business; which being read, the King
said, That He had not denied that which was desired
in the First Paper; and therefore He was not to take
the Second; but He would send His Answer to the
First, and then the Houses might send further if they
should see Cause."
"Instructions for Mr. Michaell Welden, sent from
both Houses of Parliament to the Lords of
Secret Council, and the Commissioners for
Peace, in Scotland, as following:
Instructions for Mr. Welden, to be sent to Scotland.
"1. You shall deliver the Letters from both Houses
of Parliament to the Lords of Secret Council in Scotland.
"2. You shall deliver the Letters from both Houses
of Parliament to the Lords and other Commissioners
for Conservation of Peace, established by Act of Parliament there.
"3. You shall, in the Name of both Houses, demand Justice may be done upon those Six Earls mentioned in the said Letters, according to the Act of
Pacification; and that, for the present, their Persons
may be secured.
"4. You shall acquaint the Lords of Secret Council,
and the Commissioners for Conservation of Peace,
with the Answer of both Houses of Parliament, May
the 13th, to the Lord Lyndsey's Papers, of the 27th of
January and the 6th of May, concerning the Scotts
Army in Ireland.
"5. You shall shew unto the said Lords the Instructions of both Houses to their Committees at Oxford
in April last, concerning the Commissioners of Peace
sent from the Kingdom of Scotland, under His Majesty's Safe Conduct, and the Safe Conduct of both
Houses of Parliament in England; and desire them
to (fn. *) let us know where the Impediment was, that they
came not to the Parliament, according to their Safe
Conducts; and what Propositions they were which
they intended to make to both Houses of Parliament
for the Peace of this Kingdom, or what other Overtures of Pacification they were enabled to make unto
the King's Majesty, and both Houses of Parliament.
"6. You shall, from both Houses, communicate unto
the Lords of the Secret Council, and to the Commissioners (fn. †) for the Conservation of the Peace, the
Declaration upon the Result of the Treaty, and all
the Passages and Proceedings of the Treaty at Oxon."
Order to authorize Mr. Welden to go to Scotland from both Houses.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Michaell Welden
Esquire shall repair to the Kingdom of Scotland, and
shall be authorized to deliver such Letters to the Lords
of the Secret Council, Commissioners for the Conservation of the Peace betwixt the Two Kingdoms,
or any others, and pursue such Instructions, as he
shall receive from both Houses of Parliament, or
by their Directions; and, for the better enabling the
said Mr. Welden to proceed in this Service, there shall
be Letters of Credence sent to the said Lords of the
Council, and Commissioners for Peace, and all others
whom it may concern, signed by the Speakers of both
Copy of the Letter, intercepted from the Six Scotch Lords, to be sent to the Secret Council, that they may be secured.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the English Commissioners for the Scotts Affairs acquaint the Commissioners of Scotland with the Letter intercepted by
the Lord Fairefaix, from divers Earls of Scotland,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed: And the
Lords and Commons desire the Earl of Lindsey to
acquaint the Secret Council of Scotland and the Commissioners of Peace for that Kingdom therewith, to
the End the Persons of the said Earls may by them
be secured, to answer what shall be objected against
them from both Houses of Parliament in England."
The Certificate of Sir Nathaniell Brent was read, as
Johnson and Ingram, concerning the Parsonage of Paulsbury.
"Whereas, upon the Petition of Ezechiell Johnson
Clerk, presented to your Lordships, wherein he complaineth against one Peter Ingram Clerk, for the
undue procuring of a Collation to the Rectory of
Paulesperry, in the County of North'ton, your Lordships have, by your Order of the 13th of this Instant May, required me to give an Account of the
said Business: I do humbly certify unto your Honours, That, upon Examination of the Matter, I find
that the said Collation was unduly obtained, and by
Surreptition, on the Behalf of the said Mr. Ingram;
and that the same ought not to have passed, being
done contrary to several Orders made by your Lordships, whereof I was never informed until this present: And I do therefore humbly conceive that the
said Collation, and all Proceedings thereupon, ought
to be vacated, and no further Use made thereof
against the said Mr. Johnson: All which I do humbly
leave to the Wisdom of this House.
May 17, 1643.
Hereupon this House Ordered, That the former
Order of this House for his Possession of the said Parsonage, and (fn. *) the Collation and Proceedings of the
said Ingram, shall be vacated and nullified.
Talcot and Johnson.
Ordered, That the Cause between Mr. Talcott and
Mr. Johnson shall be heard at this Bar, on Tuesday come
Doughty and Overman.
Ordered, The Writ of Error between Doughty and
Overman shall be argued at this Bar, by Counsel on
both Sides, this Day Fortnight; and the Parties to have
Ordinance for Sequestration of the Archbishop of Canterbury's Jurisdiction.
"Whereas William Lord Archbishop of Canterbury
standeth impeached, in this present Parliament, for
High Treason, and for divers other great Offences
and Misdemeanors, and, by reason of many great
and weighty Businesses, he cannot yet be brought to
Trial for the said Offences and Misdemeanors; and
he, in respect of his said Archbishopric of Canterbury,
hath Power to give and collate fit Clerks to divers
Parsonages, Vicarages, Prebends, and other Ecclesiastical Promotions and Preferments; and, if any
of them should become void, and he left to prefer
whom he pleases to the same, the same may prove
very inconvenient, he bestowing them upon unfit and
unworthy Persons: Be it therefore Ordered and
Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in this present
Parliament, That, in Case any of the aforesaid Parsonages, Vicarages, Prebends, or other Ecclesiastical
Promotions or Preferments, now be, or shall hereafter, and before the Trial of the said Lord Archbishop, become void, that the said Lord Archbishop of
Canterbury shall forbear to present or collate any Person or Persons thereunto, without the Leave and Order of both Houses of Parliament: And it is further
Ordered and Ordained, That the said Lord Archbishop shall, from Time to Time, until his said
Trial, present and collate such fit Person and Persons
to every such Parsonage, Vicarage, Prebend, and other
Ecclesiastical Preferment as aforesaid, which now are,
or hereafter before the said Trial shall become void,
as by both Houses of Parliament shall be nominated
and appointed: And it is further Ordered, by the
said Lords and Commons in Parliament, That all
Archdeacons, Registers, and other Officers, Ministers,
and Persons whatsoever, shall forbear to give or make
any Admission, Institution, Collation, or Induction,
of any Person or Persons whatsoever, which by the
said Archbishop shall be presented in or to any such
Parsonage, Vicarage, Prebend, or other Ecclesiastical
Preferment, other than such Person and Persons as
shall be nominated and appointed by both Houses
of Parliament as aforesaid: And it is lastly Ordered,
That the said Lord Archbishop, and the Churchwardens of every Parish, and other Officers of the
Church, where any Parsonage, Vicarage, Prebend,
or other Ecclesiastical Promotion or Preferment, in
the Donation or Gift of the said Archbishop, is,
shall, within Two Months after the respective Avoidance
thereof, give Notice of such Avoidance to the Lord
Speaker of the House of Peers for the Time being."
"Die Mercurii, 17 Maii, 1643.
Ordinance for a new Loan for Ireland.
"Whereas, by an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, dated the 30th Day of January last, for
a new Loan and Contribution towards the Relief of
Ireland it is (amongst other Things which conduce
to the Advancement of that Service) Ordered, That
the Churchwardens of every Parish (or the Overseers
for the Poor where there are no Churchwardens),
having collected and gathered the free and charitable
Benevolence of all the Inhabitants thereof, and all
Sum and Sums of Money, Victual, Arms, Ammunition, Goods, Wares, or Commodities, that any the
said Parishioners shall be willing to lend and disburse,
as in the said Ordinances is expressed, shall cause to
be written down, in a Schedule thereof indented, as
well the Name and Names of the several Givers, as
of the Lenders, with the several Sum and Sums which
shall be by every of them lent or given; and, having subscribed their Names at the Foot of One Part
of the said Schedule indented, shall deliver that Part,
together with all such Sum and Sums of Money,
Victual, Arms, Ammunition, Goods, Wares, and
Commodities, unto such Person or Persons as shall
be therefor employed and intrusted by Order of the
Committee of Parliament mentioned in the said Ordinance to be appointed to take Care of the Affairs
of Ireland, or any Eight of them; and that the said
Person and Persons so intrusted shall, upon Receipt
thereof, subscribe the other Part of the said Schedule,
to remain with the Churchwardens, or Overseers, and
Parishioners, as is expressed in that Ordinance; and,
receiving the Money, Victual, Arms, Ammunition,
Goods, Wares, and Commodities, in the several
Parishes, shall (with all convenient Speed after the
Receipt thereof) return the same unto the Treasurers
appointed by that Ordinance, at The Guildhall, London: Now, forasmuch as in the Directions that have
been already given into the several Counties of this
Kingdom, to the Commissioners named in the late
Act of Parliament for raising the Subsidy of Four
Hundred Thousand Pounds, to whose Care and good
Endeavours the managing of this Affair is especially
recommended, no Person or Persons are particularly
named to receive such Money, Victuals, Arms,
Ammunition, Goods, Wares, and Commodities, from
the Churchwardens and Overseers, in such Manner
as the Ordinance of Parliament doth seem to require,
and as may be for their Indemnity and Discharge;
the and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, to avoid all Ambiguities and Hindrances that may retard the Service, which is of so
great Necessity at this present, and to give the best
Furtherance they may to so pious and charitable a
Work, which is so well begun in divers Parts of the
Kingdom already, do hereby authorize and appoint
the beforementioned Commissioners, named in the
late Act of Parliament for raising the Subsidy of Four
Hundred Thousand Pounds, in the several Counties
of this Kingdom, and the Dominion of Wales, within the several Divisions of each County, as well
within Liberties as without, to receive and take,
either by themselves or such Persons as they shall
depute from the Churchwardens, Collectors, and
others that are employed for such Collections, all such
Monies, Victuals, Arms, Ammunition, Goods, Wares,
and Commodities, as they have or shall, from Time
to Time, have collected by virtue of the said Ordinance, together with the Schedules thereof so to
be signed as aforesaid; and to subscribe and deliver back, unto those Churchwardens or Collectors,
the other Part of such Schedules indented, for their
Indemnity and Discharge; and the said Churchwardens and Collectors of every Parish, as well within
Liberties as without, are hereby required to deliver,
without Delay, all such Money, Victuals, Arms, Ammunition, Goods, Wares, and Commodities, with
the Schedules before mentioned, unto those respective
Commissioners, or such as they shall appoint to receive the same, who are in all other respects to observe the former Directions given them for the disposing thereof, according to the Tenor of the said
Ordinance, and Letters given them in that Behalf."
House adjourned till 10 a cras.