Morning Post January 2, 1788
1295. December 31, 1787 Westminster Forum
'Is the virtue of the female sex most in danger from their own natural
frailty, parental restraint, or the defects of modern education?'
Debate decided that female sex most in danger from the defects of
modern education.
Morning Post January 7, 1788
1296. January 3, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it probable that a reformed rake will make as good a husband, as
the man whose life has been uniformly consistent with prudence and
morality?
The fair Sex, from a native softness and generosity of mind, being often
led to give credit to maxims laid down by the other sex, upon the
truth of which their happiness or misery in wedlock may depend; a
Gentleman, no less respected for his abilities, than beloved for his philanthropy, has proposed the above question, as a subject of sufficient
importance to recommend to the attention of a liberal and enlightened
audience.
It was almost unanimously decided . . . that a reformed rake would not
prove so good a husband, as the man whose life has been uniformly
moral.'
Morning Chronicle January 2
1297. January 7, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Was the Belief of the Existence of Apparitions by the late Doctor
Johnson, an Impeachment of his Understanding?
The decision of the audience, by a small majority, justified Doctor
Johnson's belief in the existence of apparitions.'
Morning Post
1298. January 10, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Does the confidence reposed by the people in Mr. Pitt proceed more
from his wisdom and integrity as a Minister, or from an opinion that Mr.
Fox and his party have acted inconsistently and forfeited the support of
a free people?
A popular character, zealous in his attachment to Mr. Pitt, having
declared that the people are now convinced that they are indebted to
the Minister for the salvation of the Constitution, and a gentleman
equally animated in the cause of Mr. Fox, insisting that this distinguished Senator still possesses the confidence of the friends to freedom,
it has been agreed to refer the question to a public audience.'
Morning Chronicle January 9
1299. January 14, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Is the assertion of the Marchioness de Lambert true, that love improves
a virtuous soul?
Agreeable to the request of a celebrated poetical character, whose publications have lately been the subject of much panegyric in various prints
[the question is debated.] He has pledged himself on the present occasion, to make a public display of his talents in poetry, by opening and
arguing the above question, with a composition in verse; and afterwards
to close the debate of the evening, with a legendary tale, explanatory
of his opinion on the enquiry for investigation.
The Managers of this Institution are happy to be able to say, that the
poetical Composition of the Gentleman who opened the debate . . .
met with the unanimous applause of a numerous and splendid audience. - The humourous versified Essay which followed, afforded the
highest diversion; and the recitals of a gentleman belonging to the Bath
Theatre, added to the subsequent spirit with which the whole debate
proceeded, drew from the audience incessant marks of approbation.'
Morning Post
1300. January 16, 1788 School of Eloquence, Panton Street Haymarket
'Does not the amiable philanthropy of Mr. Howard, and the general
conduct of the Dissenters, incontestably prove their loyalty, and
demand a repeal of the corporation and test acts?'
Morning Post January 23
1301. January 17, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Does the confidence reposed by the people in Mr. Pitt proceed more
from his wisdom and integrity as a Minister, or from an opinion that Mr.
Fox and his party have acted inconsistently and forfeited the support of
a free people?
The honest zeal which ever marks the character of Englishmen in support of the man they hold to be the greatest friend to freedom, was
manifest during the whole of the debate. . . The friends of MR. PITT
seem confident that the decision will be in his favour, while the advocates of MR. FOX declare they are not afraid to trust his cause to a
British audience.'
Morning Chronicle January 16
1302. January 21, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Is it consistent with the principles of justice, or with the nature of the
British Constitution, and real interests of the Community, to punish
with death [any] crime except Murder?
The last Question . . . produced a debate, which gave a convincing
proof of the liberal support with which this society is honoured. . . It
was decided, that there are crimes besides murder which deserve the
punishment of death.'
Morning Post
1303. January 23, 1788 School of Eloquence, Panton Street Haymarket
'Does not the amiable philanthropy of Mr. Howard, and the general
conduct of the Dissenters, incontestably prove their loyalty, and
demand a repeal of the corporation and test acts?'
Morning Post
1304. January 24, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Does the confidence reposed by the people in Mr. Pitt proceed more
from his wisdom and integrity as a Minister, or from an opinion that Mr.
Fox and his party have acted inconsistently and forfeited the support of
a free people?
The audience . . . was almost unanimous in pronouncing the confidence
reposed in Mr. Pitt, to be the effect of his wisdom and integrity as a
Minister.'
Morning Chronicle January 23
1305. January 28, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Which is most likely to stimulate a man to great and worthy actions;
the passion of love, the sentiment of friendship, or the principle of
public spirit?
The managers of the Westminster Forum are happy to be able to speak
of the increasing reputation of this institution.'
Morning Post
1306. January 30, 1788 [School of Eloquence] Panton Street,
Haymarket
Question on the propriety of boxing.
'In a debate equally replete with severe irony and strong reasoning,
Boxing was pointedly reprobated by almost every speaker. A numerous
audience decided against the brutality of the practice.'
Morning Post February 6
1307. January 31, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Which is most dangerous to its possessor, Jealousy in a Lover, Profligacy in a Merchant, or Ambition in a Statesman?
A Lady, whose mental accomplishments can only be equalled by her
personal beauty, is the proposer of the above question. A recent circumstance announced in the public prints, as one among the fatal train of
consequences of which the passion of Jealousy has been the cruel
parent, is the reason assigned by the fair querist for uniting that passion
with the two other important branches of which the question is
composed.'
The audience decided that profligacy in a merchant was most
dangerous.
Morning Chronicle January 30
1308. February 6, 1788 [School of Eloquence] Panton Street,
Haymarket
'Are the understandings of the fair sex inferior to those of the male, or
does education alone constitute the difference?'
Morning Post
1309. February 7, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Would it be consistent with the political and commercial interests of
Great Britain for the legislature to pass an Act for the total Abolition
of the Slave Trade?
The above interesting subject drew to this Hall . . . a very numerous
assembly of Citizens the most respectable, and much to the honour of
the fair sex, a considerable number of them forsook the places of trifling
and uninstructive amusement, to attend the grave investigation of a
Question in which one of the most important branches of the Trade
and Commerce of this country is involved.'
Morning Chronicle February 6
1310. February 11, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Are the assertions of Dr. Johnson true, That the married are seldom
happy, and that celibacy has no pleasures?'
The discussion disproved the assertions of Dr. Johnson.
Morning Post
1311. February 12, 1788 Original London
'Is Disappointment in Love a sufficient Excuse for a Man remaining a
Batchelor?'
The Question decided in the negative.
Daily Advertiser February 19
1312. February 13, 1788 School of Eloquence
'Can the Slave Trade be justified on the principles of Justice, Christianity, Policy or Humanity?
Many ingenious arguments were adduced in favour of the Slave Trade - many powerful appeals to the feelings were urged against it. - Among
the foremost were those of an ingenious African. He contributed much
information on the subject (being the result of his own experience).'
Morning Post February 19
1313. February 14, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Would it be consistent with the political and commercial interests of
Great Britain for the legislature to pass an Act for the total Abolition
of the Slave Trade?'
Although vote adjourned, most speakers seemed in favour of abolition.
Morning Chronicle February 13
1314. February 18, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Can any abuse of the LIBERTY of the PRESS, justify a limitation of
that constitutional privilege?
As no subject is more interesting to an Englishman than that which
relates to his rights and privileges, the managers of the Westminster
Forum trust, that the above question will be particularly welcome to an
English audience; and the more so in the present period, as some recent
events of a public nature have given rise to much disputation on this
important topic.'
Morning Post
1315. February 19, 1788 Original London Society, Capel Court
'Which stands the better chance for Happiness, an Old Woman who
marries a young Husband, or an old Man who marries a young Wife?'
Determined that old Man married to young Wife has best chance.
Daily Advertiser
1316. February 20, 1788 School of Eloquence
'Can the Slave Trade be justified on the principles of Justice, Christianity, Policy or Humanity?
Upon the adjourned question of the Slave Trade, besides several most
animated speeches, [the Society was] honoured by a circumstance never
before witnessed in a Debating Society. A lady spoke to the subject
with that dignity, energy, and information, which astonished every one
present, and justly merited what she obtained, repeated and uncommon
bursts of applause from an intelligent and enraptured auditory. The
question was carried against the Slave Trade.'
Morning Post February 19
1317. February 21, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Would it be consistent with the political and commercial interests of
Great Britain for the legislature to pass an Act for the total Abolition
of the Slave Trade?'
Morning Chronicle February 27
1318. February 25, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Can any political or commercial advantages justify a free people in
continuing the Slave Trade?
A NATIVE OF AFRICA, many years a Slave in the West-Indies,
will attend . . . and communicate to the audience a number of very
remarkable circumstances respecting the treatment of the Negroe
Slaves, and particularly of his being forcibly taken from his family and
friends, on the coast of Africa, and sold as a Slave - of the manner in
which he was treated while in captivity, and the means by which he
obtained his emancipation; together with several interesting circumstances relative to the conduct of the Slave-holders towards the African
women. Several popular Gentlemen, who have interested themselves
in the petitions presented to Parliament, will also be present; and a
LADY, whose intellectual accomplishments, and wonderful powers of
eloquence, delighted a public audience on Wednesday last, and procured her the highest respect and admiration, is expected to honour the
Society with her sentiments.
The advocates for the abolition argued, that no policy was well founded.
No commercial advantages could be permanent that were gained by a
departure from the indispensible obligations of justice, and that virtue
alone was the true foundation of national honour, the source of harmony, order and happiness in society. These arguments were ably
answered by the speakers on the other side.' Question adjourned.
Morning Post February 23
1319. February 26 Original London Society, Capel Court
'Which is most predominant in the Breast of Man, the Love of Life,
the Love of Liberty, or the Love of the Fair Sex?'
Daily Advertiser
1320. February 27, 1788 School of Eloquence
'Which is more blameable, the Lady that condescends to be mistress to
the man she loves, or marries the man she hates?'
Morning Post February 26
1321. February 28, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Would it be consistent with the political and commercial interests of
Great Britain for the legislature to pass an Act for the total Abolition
of the Slave Trade?
The friends to the abolition employed many ingenious arguments in
favour of the extension of freedom to a race of beings hitherto wandering in ignorance, and groaning under despotism, while the cautious
politician, professing equal love of humanity contended against an
innovation that might lead to the ruin of the trade and commerce of
his country, without any real benefit to the objects of emancipation.'
Morning Chronicle February 27
1322. March 3, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Can any political or commercial advantages justify a free people in
continuing the Slave Trade?'
Morning Post March 1
1323. March 4, 1788 Original London Society, removed from the Mitre
Tavern to Capel Court
'Which is most predominant in the Breast of Man, the Love of Life,
the Love of Liberty, or the Love of the Fair Sex?'
Determined that Love of Life most powerful in the human breast.
Daily Advertiser
1324. March 5, 1788 School of Eloquence, Panton Street
'Which is the greater Calamity - the Loss of a good Wife, or the Plague
of a bad One?
The audience decided . . . by a considerable majority' that the plague
of a bad wife was the greater calamity.
Morning Post March 4
1325. March 6, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Would it be consistent with the political and commercial interests of
Great Britain for the legislature to pass an Act for the total Abolition
of the Slave Trade?
The majority [of the audience] . . . declared that a total abolition of the
Slave Trade, would be inconsistent with the political and commercial
interests of this country.'
Morning Chronicle March 5
1326. March 10, 1788 Westminster Forum, Spring Gardens
'Can any political or commercial advantages justify a free people in
continuing the Slave Trade?'
Morning Post
1327. March 11, 1788 Original London Society
'Which has contributed most to the Disgrace of this Country, the
Cruelty and Peculation practiced by Servants of the India Company in
the East, or the Encouragement given to the African Slave Trade in
our West-India Possessions?
As the Attention of the whole Nation appears to be at present engrossed
by these two grand Objects, the Managers of this Institution have, at
the Request of a Number of Respectable Characters, brought them
forward in Contrast for this Evening's Entertainment.'
Daily Advertiser
1328. March 12, 1788 School of Eloquence
'Which must be more disagreeable to a Lady of delicacy, to be compelled to marry the most ignorant clown, or a complete modern fop?'
Morning Post March 11
1329. March 13, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Has the conduct of Mr. Pitt, respecting the affairs of India, merited
the praise or censure of the Publick?
There appeared to be a small majority against the Minister's conduct
in relation to the affairs of India.'
Morning Chronicle March 12
1330. March 17, 1788 Westminster Forum, Spring Garden
'Has Mr. PITT forfeited his claim to popularity by the introduction of
the depending INDIA BILL?
The dangerous precedent which an infringement of chartered rights
must afford, and the questionable propriety of placing unlimited power
in a Board of Controul were topics which call for the serious attention
of the Patriot and the Politician.'
The question was resolved, by a considerable majority, in favour of
Mr. Pitt.
Morning Post
1331. March 17, 1788 La Belle Assemblee, Brewer Street, Golden
Square
'(Under the Patronage of several Ladies of Distinction)
Do not the extraordinary abilities of the Ladies in the present age
demand Academical honours from the Universities - a right to vote at
elections, and to be returned Members of Parliament?
The refined nature of La Belle Assemblee being in itself an exclusion
of any indiscriminate assemblage of mixed company; the Nobility and
Gentry who may honour it by their presence, are humbly assured no
attention shall be omitted to render its order and regularity equal to its
elegance and entertainment.
The audience . . . was numerous and polite - the debate a brilliant
assemblage of wit, elegance, and pleasantry - the decision terminated
in favour of the affirmative of the question.'
Admission Half-a-Crown - Ladies permitted to speak in veils.
Morning Post March 15, 1788
1332. March 20, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it justifiable for a man to fight a duel to vindicate the honour of the
lady he loves, or under any provocation whatsoever?'
Morning Chronicle March 19
1333. March 24, 1788 La Belle Assemblee
'Which was more culpable in eating the forbidden Fruit, ADAM or
EVE?
The Lady who honoured the Managers by a letter subscribed CAUTION, is respectfully entreated to dismiss her apprehensions on the
present question - Indelicacy, and much more infidelity, will ever be
carefully banished.'
Morning Post March 21
1334. March 24, 1788 Westminster Forum, Spring Gardens, Charing
Cross
'Can a Lady seduced, and deserted by her seducer, be justified in intermarrying with a man of honour, without previously acquainting him of
her misfortune?
As it is no uncommon event for the female sex to form matrimonial
connections under the circumstances mentioned in the question, and as
the propriety of such marriages is a matter of much dispute, a sentimental Lady, well known to the literary world, has presented the above
inquiry.'
Morning Post
1335. March 26, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is the Male or Female Character more distinguished by Constancy in
Love?'
Morning Post
1336. March 27, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Which is the more eligible for a wife, a lady of fortune without education, or a lady of education without fortune?
To obtain happiness in the marriage state has long been the study of
mankind, but though a science with which every person would wish to
be acquainted, but few comparatively have obtained it. A Question
therefore that may lead the mind to avoid the steps of juvenile imprudence, and to pursue the paths of wisdom, as far as respects matrimonial
felicity, is highly worthy the attention of a rational audience.
The decision was almost unanimous, that a Lady of Education, though
destitute of Fortune, ought to be elected for a Wife, in preference to
the Lady of Fortune, without the benefit of Education.'
Morning Chronicle March 26
1337. March 31, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Can a Lady seduced, and deserted by her seducer, be justified in intermarrying with a man of honour, without previously acquainting him of
her misfortune?'
Determined that such a lady ought not to marry a man of honour,
without previously informing him of her misfortune.
Morning Post April 7
1338. March 31, 1788 La Belle Assemblee, Brewer Street, Golden
Square
'Which is the greatest calamity to a female of sensibility, the loss of a
lover by banishment, death, or marriage?'
Morning Post March 29
1339. April 2, 1788 School of Eloquence, Panton Street
'Which is the most injurious member of society - a Quack Doctor - a
Trading Justice - or a Methodist Preacher?'
Morning Post
1340. April 3, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is the great Increase of Methodists more to be attributed to the great
Zeal and Abilities of their Preachers, or to the Want of a proper Spirit
and Exertion in the Clergy of the established Church?
A learned Divine, warmly attached to the Freedom of publick Debate,
and particularly friendly to this Society as an Institution which encourages aspiring Genius, producing mental improvement and rational
Entertainment, thus diverting the minds of Youth from the pursuit of
licentious Pleasure, has proposed the above Question as a Subject calculated to call forth the Powers of Eloquence in the Discovery and Maintenance of Truth.'
Morning Chronicle April 2
1341. April 7, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Which are more likely to be productive of happiness to the possessor,
the gifts of nature, or the gifts of fortune?'
Morning Post
1342. April 8, 1788 La Belle Assemblee, Rice's Rooms, Brewer Street,
Golden Square
'Ought not those Ladies whose husbands are Peers, and Members of
Parliament, to exert their influence over them for an abolition of the
Slave Trade?
At a time when the eyes of all Europe are fixed on this country to
observe the part she may take in diffusing that liberty to others, which
for so many centuries has been her peculiar boast, the importance of
this inquiry must be obvious.'
Admission half a Crown.
Morning Post April 7
1343. April 10, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is the great Increase of Methodists more to be attributed to the great
Zeal and Abilities of their Preachers, or to the Want of a proper Spirit
and Exertion in the Clergy of the established Church?
In proportion as mankind discover and act consistently with truth, they
pursue the path of wisdom. Freedom in debate serves to promote this
desirable purpose. The clouds of prejudice must be dispelled, and the
principles of angry bigotry removed before the mind will be expanded,
and the heart warmed with benevolence.'
The vote was almost unanimous in favour of the great zeal and abilities
of the Methodist ministers.
Morning Chronicle April 9
1344. April 16, 1788 School of Eloquence
'Which is most worthy the admiration of this country, Mr. Fox, for his
opposition to the American war - Mr. Pitt for retrieving our declining
finances, or Mr. Burke, for bringing to public investigation the cruelties
and peculations practised in the East-Indies?
Now the spirit of party virulence seems nearly evaporated, it is presumed an enquiry into the three grand political characteristics of these
illustrious statesmen may neither be unworthy of the abilities of the
gentlemen who speak in the School of Eloquence, nor devoid of entertainment to the public, who now seem peculiarly interested in the affairs
of the East-Indies.'
Morning Post April 15
1345. April 17, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is Jealousy in a Husband, or Inconstancy in a Wife, more destructive
to matrimonial happiness?
Jealousy and Inconstancy in Wedlock never prevailed more than at the
present period. A young lady of extraordinary abilities has proposed
the [above] question. . . . The lady, it is said, has lately finished an
elegant novel, intitled "The Fair Inconstant" which is mentioned in
terms of the highest panegyrick, but whether she has confidence enough
in her talents to address a large assembly on so singular a question as
the above is, time only can discover.
It was the opinion of the audience . . . that inconstancy in a Wife is
more destructive to conjugal felicity than jealousy in a Husband.'
Morning Chronicle April 16
1346. April 21, 1788 Westminster Forum
COURTSHIP
'Which of the Two Maxims is more likely to prove successful to a Lover,
that of Lord Chesterfield, which recommends us to consider every word
before we speak it; or that of Ovid, which says,
"Speak boldly on, and trust the following word;
It will be witty of its own accord."
In answer to the Letter of the Lady who honoured this Society with the
above Question, the Managers beg leave to observe, that though it is
not strictly conformable to their rules to permit Ladies to speak in this
assembly; yet, as this seems a subject on which the Fair Sex are peculiarly qualified to decide, they are willing to indulge her, if she still
retains a wish to open the debate.'
The audience 'were of opinion, that the boldness recommended by Ovid
is more likely to prove successful to a Lover, than the caution suggested
by the late Earl of Chesterfield'.
Morning Post
1347. April 23, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence, Panton Street,
Haymarket
'Which is more eligible for a Wife, an Old Maid, or a Widow?
It has been an invariable maxim with the Proprietors of the School of
Eloquence to avoid as much as possible those questions which have
been debated in other Societies; however, at the united request of several Ladies, they have in this instance relaxed their laws, trusting the
eccentricity of the question - and the fund of risibility it must naturally
occasion, will plead their apology.
A widow was almost unanimously declared to be more eligible for a
wife than an old maid.'
Morning Post April 22
1348. April 24, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is the following opinion of Lord Peterborough founded in truth, viz.- That the Fair Sex are so envious of each other if you praise two of them
at once, though you give to each the beauty of Venus and the wisdom
of Minerva, they would neither of them be pleased?
The audience . . . were of opinion that Lord Peterborough's description
of female envy, was consonant with truth.'
Morning Chronicle April 23
1349. April 28, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Is the Assertion of Mr. Pope well founded, That every Woman is at
Heart a Rake?
A Lady of distinguished abilities, an admirer of the celebrated Poet,
from whose works the above Question is taken, has solicited the Managers to introduce it for public debate, in order that the true meaning
of the Poet may be discovered, and the fair sex publicly vindicated from
a charge, in which their moral character is materially concerned, if
unjustly accused.'
Morning Post
1350. April 30, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is it not contrary to justice and propriety, to compel Women to serve
[as] Church-Wardens, Constables, Overseers of the Poor, and other
Parish Offices?
The novelty of the present question joined to its temporary nature (it
being evidently founded on an affair that has lately been much canvassed, of a Woman being declared eligible to the office of Constable)
induced a numerous and polite audience . . . to vote its immediate
discussion.'
Morning Post April 29
1351. May 1, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is the assertion of the late Mr. Fielding in his novel of Tom Jones,
founded in truth, viz. That if Libertinism was more severely censured
by the FAIR SEX, a Libertine would be a rare Character?
As nature, for the wisest purposes, has adorned the Female Sex with
the most attractive graces of personal beauty, and mental affability, so
their influence upon the manners of the opposite Sex, has been in various respects felt, and evinced by a studied deference and complaisance
towards female opinion. How far the behaviour of the Fair Sex has
justified the sentiment contained in the above question is well worth an
attentive examination.'
It was decided that Mr. Fielding was correct.
Morning Chronicle April 30
1352. May 7, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is the common saying true, that there is no medium in the marriage
state, but that it must always be extremely happy, or very miserable?
As this Society will close, for the summer season . . . the Proprietors
wish to impress on the Public that sense they entertain of the patronage
with which it has been honoured. The number of important questions
communicated to them by correspondents, best speak the estimation in
which the School of Eloquence is held by the learned and judicious.'
Morning Post
1353. May 8, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it not disgraceful to a free and enlightened nation, to exclude the
Roman Catholicks from any Civil or Religious Liberties, which are
exercised by Methodists, Arians and Socinians?
A celebrated Romish Priest, has informed the Managers that he has
challenged a venerable and learned Gentleman of the Methodist persuasion, to meet him in the Fair Field of Public Debate, on the above
Question, and that Coachmakers Hall has been mutually agreed on as
the most respectable and popular assembly for free discussion of a subject, in the decision of which, every man who feels a respect for the
majesty of truth, will acknowledge himself immediately concerned.'
Morning Chronicle May 7
1354. May 14, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Which is the more disagreeable Character - a surly Old Bachelor or a
peevish Old Maid?
The various expences attendant on the School of Eloquence (for this
Evening) being presented as a gift to an indigent Widow, its entire
receipts will be appropriated to her relief. On this occasion, a Lady,
who has honoured this Society with her sentiments, has graciously
promised either to open or close the debate, or to speak in the course
of it. Previous to the entertainment, a Gentleman will (for that night
only) recite Collin's Ode on the Passions.'
Morning Post May 13
1355. May 16, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it not disgraceful to a free and enlightened nation, to exclude the
Roman Catholicks from any Civil or Religious Liberties, which are
exercised by Methodists, Arians and Socinians?'
Morning Chronicle
1356. May 22, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it not disgraceful to a free and enlightened nation, to exclude the
Roman Catholicks from any Civil or Religious Liberties, which are
exercised by Methodists, Arians and Socinians?'
The debate was marked by 'much pleasant but allowable sarcasm'. The
affirmative 'appeared to be the sense of the majority'.
Morning Chronicle
1357. May 29, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Are the Ladies of this country most distinguished for their Virtues,
Beauty or Mental Accomplishments?
An English Lady of Distinction, educated in France, but lately arrived
from that country, has acquainted the Managers of this institution, that
she has heard various opinions respecting the most prominent feature
in the character of her fair country-women, and it therefore desirous to
hear the above question publicly debated before a British audience.'
Times May 26
1358. July 2, 1788 Society for Free Debate, Great Room, Capel-court,
Bartholemew lane
'Does that Wife who assumes a Domination over her Husband, render
him or herself more conspicuously ridiculous?'
The World
1359. July 7, 1788 Society for Free Debate, Capel Court
'Is the Rev. Mr. Wesley censurable for publicly maintaining the Existence of Witches, the Doctrine of Apparitions, and Demoniac
Possessions?
The report of a Man possessed by Seven Devils, at Bristol, caused this
enquiry. The public will now have the opportunity of hearing, (at his own
desire) an aged, venerable, and learned Methodist, defend his opinions
concerning, and deliver a succinct account of these strange appearances.
Several Gentlemen of the first ability have promised to attend. The Lady
who spoke at the Mitre Society, and declared she had frequently conversed with an Apparition, may depend on a candid hearing.'
The World
1360. July 14, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Is the Rev. Mr. Wesley censurable for publicly maintaining the Existence of Witches - the Doctrine of Apparitions, and Demoniac
Possessions?'
The World
1361. July 21, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Is the Rev. Mr. Wesley censurable for publicly maintaining the Existence of Witches, the Doctrine of Apparitions, and Demoniac
Possessions?'
The debate 'after three evenings' investigation, terminated in Mr. Wesley's favour'.
The World
1362. July 28, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Which is the strongest obligation in the Marriage Covenant, Love,
Honour or Obedience?
Love was determined the most powerful obligation.'
The World
1363. August 4, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Between which Characters is the resemblance most striking - Sir
Robert Walpole and Mr. Pitt, or Mr. Fox and Oliver Cromwell?'
The World
1364. August 11, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Between which Characters is the resemblance most striking - Sir
Robert Walpole and Mr. Pitt, or Mr. Fox and Oliver Cromwell?'
The World
1365. August 18, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Which is the greater Domestic Evil, a Drunken Husband or a Scolding
Wife?'
The World
1366. August 25, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Is the desire of an Husband generally more powerful and commendable
in an Old Maid or a Widow?
A violent contest having taken place between a Maiden Lady and a
Widow, upon their adverse claims to Matrimony, they agreed to determine it by the decision of this Society. . . As in this institution Ladies
have the privilege of speaking, there will be nothing indecorous in
either, or both, supporting their own opinions.'
The World
1367. August 28, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Has the conduct of MR. FOX, in the part he has taken relative to the
late Westminster Election, reflected honour or disgrace upon him as a
British Senator?'
The World September 4
1368. September 1, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Is the Passion of Love more powerful from the Age of 15 to 30 - or
from 30 to 50?'
The World
1369. September 3, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence, Panton
Street Haymarket
'Do the Electors of Westminster deserve the Praise, or Censure of the
Real Friends of this Country, in rejecting Lord Hood, and chusing Lord
John Townshend, for their Representative in Parliament?'
The audience decided that praise was deserved.
The World September 10
1370. September 4, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Has the conduct of MR. FOX, in the part he has taken relative to the
late Westminster Election, reflected honour or disgrace upon him as a
British Senator?
As the constitutional liberty of this country is the pride of its own
subjects, and the envy of surrounding nations, every man will acknowledge the importance of the above question, the immediate object of
which is to refer the conduct of a British Senator touching the right of
election, the foundation upon which all our civil and religious privileges
are built, to the decision of the publick.'
Small majority favoured Fox.
Morning Chronicle September 3
1371. September 8, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Which is the most dangerous Member of Society, a Quack Doctor, a
trading Justice, or a Methodist Preacher?'
Daily Advertiser September 20
1372. September 10, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence, Panton
Street Haymarket
'Is it not a reflection on the Female Character, for Ladies to interfere
in Elections for Members of Parliament?
As several illustrious Females have the last two Elections for Westminster, taken a very active part in behalf of their favourite Candidate, it
has been requested, that the propriety of such conduct be submitted to
a fair and candid discussion, in order to determine, whether it should
subject them to praise or censure.
It was determined . . . that the Fair Sex deserved praise rather than
censure, for their interference in Elections.'
The World
1373. September 11, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Has the conduct of MR. FOX, in the part he has taken relative to the
late Westminster Election, reflected honour or disgrace upon him as a
British Senator?
In answer to the Card of the Lady, who says "she feels herself peculiarly
interested in the above question as a female canvasser for Lord John
Townshend" the Managers respectfully inform her, that the gallery has
a commanding view over every part of the Assembly Room.'
The Question was decided, 'by a small majority' in the negative.
Morning Chronicle September 10
1374. September 15, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Which is the most dangerous Member of Society, a Quack Doctor, a
trading Justice, or a Methodist Teacher?
Most of the Speakers, however, seemed rather too pointed to reprobate
the Conduct of the Methodist Preacher.'
Daily Advertiser September 20
1375. September 17, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is the Virtue of the Fair Sex most in Danger, from the Influence of
Love, Vanity or Avarice?'
It was determined 'that Vanity more frequently contributes to Female
Ruin, than either Love or Avarice'.
The World
1376. September 18, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it possible for a Lady who has lost the Husband that was the object
of her first Love, to entertain as strong an affection for the second as
the first?
As a number of ladies constantly honour this Society with their presence, the managers are happy in compliance with their requests, to
introduce occasionally, such questions as more immediately interest the
female heart. At the same time they embrace the hope that by a judicious treatment of these questions much rational entertainment will be
produced, and the audience inspired with a right sense of social virtues-
"And Marriage be no more the jest of fools"
Audience voted a second love could not be as strong.'
Times/Gazetteer September 17
1377. September 22, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Which is the most dangerous Member of Society, a Quack Doctor, a
trading Justice, or a Methodist Preacher?'
Daily Advertiser September 20
1378. September 24, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence, Panton
street Haymarket
'Which is the greatest Object of Pity, the Man who is deceived by the
Lady he loves, or he who is reduced to poverty by the treachery of
a false Friend, or the Debtor deprived of his liberty by a merciless
Creditor?'
The audience decided that the debtor was most to be pitied.
The World
1379. September 25, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Can an Advocate for the Slave Trade be justly deemed a real Friend
to the Constitutional Liberties of this Country?
As the Exercise of Reason is the distinguishing characteristic of Man
from the Brute Creation, so it is the duty of Rational Beings to lend
an attentive ear to those who complain of "Man's Cruelty to Man". - In this Inquiry the Philosopher, the Orator and Politician have a theme
on which their abilities may be honourably employed. It is to be hoped
that gentlemen will speak with freedom, remembering that the invariable object of this Institution, is to cherish Genius, enlarge the Understanding, and
"To spread the Truth from Pole to Pole"
Question answered in the negative.'
The World
1380. September 29, 1788 Capel Court Debating Society
'Is it not a Duty incumbent on all Mankind to enter into the State of
Wedlock?
The Importance of the above Subject does not cynically preclude the
Sallies of Wit or Humour; elegant and forcible Reasoning, Jollity and
Mirth, are equally deducible upon it. In short, its engaging Wit, as
the handmaid to Virtue, inclined the Managers to give it that early
Investigation.'
Daily Advertiser September 27
1381. October 1, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence, Panton
Street, Haymarket
'Is it possible for a Lady who has lost the Husband that was the object
of her first Love, to entertain as strong an affection for the second as
the first?
Several Ladies of great respectability have heard that the above question was debated at Coachmaker's Hall, being prevented from indulging
their inclinations to be present at the Debate, solicited the Managers
of this Institution to introduce it for public discussion.'
It was determined 'that the first impressions of Love were stronger'.
The World
1382. October 2, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'But every woman is at heart a Rake'
'Whether the above Sentiment of Mr. Pope's ought to be considered as
a compliment to, or censure of the Female Sex?
Various are the opinions of the true meaning of the celebrated Poet,
from whose works the above remarkable lines are selected; and as the
moral character of the female sex is of the greatest importance, not
only to their own happiness and honour, but to society at large, the
above question will doubtless be considered by the public to merit a
fair and free discussion.'
It was decided that Pope meant to censure the fair sex.
Times/Gazetteer October 1
1383. October 6, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Whether a Lady, entertaining no tender Affection for a Lover (who
attempted an Act of Suicide on her Refusal) would be justifiable in
marrying him?
To make the Woes of others our own is the Duty of every intelligent
Being. To determine the Line of Conduct to be pursued in such a critical
Situation is an Employment worthy the Man of Sense and the Female
of Susceptibility. As the Fair Sex are undoubtedly the most competent
to investigate a Subject of this Nature, the Managers have prevailed
with the Lady, to whose Exertions this Institution owes much of its
Popularity to begin and conclude the Debate, a Debate which must
interest every sympathetic feeling to bestow a Sigh on the Fate of an
Hackman, a Werter, or an Elliott.'
Daily Advertiser October 4
1384. October 7, 1788 Daily Advertiser
'Religious Discourse. . . The Subject for this Week is "How are we to
understand the Doctrine of the blessed Millennium, will it be before
the general Conflagration, or upon the System of Dr. Burnet and others
in the new Heavens and the new Earth?" A full description of this
scriptural, rational and highly profitable Entertainment, containing the
Rules. . . To the discerning and religious Part of Mankind it can be no
unpleasing Intelligence that a Society is forming of liberal, learned and
sensible Christians, whose sole view is to glorify God, disseminate
divine Knowledge, and reconcile those seeming Differences among the
Parties. This being their plan, they do not permit any Atheist, Deist,
nor Socinian, nor any Wit disposed to ridicule Internal Religion and
Christian Experience to confer among them, lest a greater Crop of
Errors than of Bible Truths should be reaped in their Association. The
long complained evil tendency of religious debating Societies being thus
remedied, we hope our Conference will be of real utility. Ladies and
Gentlemen having any intention to become Members will apply soon,
as the Number is limited to 72.' Strangers, however, will be admitted.
1385. October 8, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is it a duty incumbent on Children always to consult their Parents
previous to Marriage?'
It was determined that 'children ought at all times to consult their Parents previous to Marriage.'
The World
1386. October 9, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is the encrease of bankruptcies more to be imputed to luxury and
extravagance, or to the decline of trade?'
Audience thought due more to luxury and extravagance.
Morning Chronicle October 16
1387. October 13, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Is the Practice of foretelling future Events (commonly called
Fortune-Telling) founded on Truth, or authorized by Religion?
At the desire of several Professors of the Art, who have promised to
vindicate and explain its Principles' the above Question is proposed. 'If
we may venture to predict on this Subject, we perceive much Mirth and
Entertainment in a Conjunction; Wit will be the Lord of the Ascendant;
Reason may afford a benign Aspect, and several Luminaries of the first
Magnitude will rise to the Occasion.'
Daily Advertiser October 11
1388. October 13, 1788 A CARD To the Conductors of the Westminster Forum
'Several Friends to rational Entertainment having called at Spring Gardens to know when this institution would open for the season, were
informed that it is to be removed to the Great Room (late Patterson's)
King-Street, Covent-Garden, and to be opened for public debate next
Wednesday Evening. This is certainly a more central part of the city of
Westminster, and consequently an accommodation to many who make
this Society their favourite place of amusement. They beg to hint also,
that as the melancholy encrease of female prostitution, must interest
the feelings of every compassionate bosom, a question, enquiring into
the cause of so much beauty being consigned to infamy and public
contamination, would be a subject on which the orator might speak
with laudable animation, as it involves an evil, which it is the duty and
interest of every community to attempt to remedy, in order to which,
it is necessary to explore the cause from whence it proceeds.'
The World
1389. October 15,1788 Westminster Forum for Free Debate (Removed
from Spring Gardens, Charing Cross, to the Great Room, King-street,
Covent Garden)
'Is the Prevalence of Female Prostitution more to be imputed to the
Treachery and Falsehood of the Male Sex; or to the Misconduct of
Parents, in giving their Daughters an improper Education?
Encouraged by the flattering approbation of numerous respectable
friends, the Conductors are determined to spare no pains to render this
Institution the most rational and instructive of any that can engage the
attention of an enlightened public. Care will be taken to preserve the
strictest order; and every Gentleman desirous of cultivating the art of
Public Speaking, may rest assured of meeting in this Society with the
most liberal support. The subjects for debate will be miscellaneous; but
none will be admitted, which have not a probable tendency to inspire
a love of our country; to represent Virtue in the most engaging dress,
and Vice in the most odious colours; to delight while they reform;
eradicate pernicious errors, and warm the heart with benevolence.'
Morning Post
1390. October 15, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Do Mankind in general exercise their Fancy or Judgment most, in the
Choice of a Wife?
The Managers beg leave to inform the Public, that the disturbance
which took place last Wednesday Evening, was intirely owing to the
malevolence and illiberality of an individual, who will never in future
be permitted to have any connexion with any Society to which they
belong.'
It was decided 'that Mankind consult their judgment rather than their
fancy, in choice of a Wife'.
The World
1391. October 16, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Whether the great number of Old Maids may be mostly imputed to a
disappointment in love, to the treachery of the male sex, or to any
peculiarity in their own temper and disposition?
The Lady who favoured the Managers with the above question has
informed them she belongs to a Club of female literatae, some of the
Members of which constantly attend Coachmakers Hall on all questions
of a moral, sentimental or philosophical nature. She adds, that as the
banishment of prejudice, and the improvement of the mind, are the
sole objects of the sisterhood, they are desirous of receiving some
information on the above question, being one which for some time has
engaged their attention.'
The audience attributed the generality of old maids to a disappointment
in Love.
Morning Chronicle October 16/Daily Advertiser October 23
1392. October 20, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Can a Man who really loves a Female deliberately seduce her?
Were the Ladies convinced of this important Truth, That the Seducer
cannot really love, "So many of the Sex would not in vain, of broken
Vows, and faithless Men complain." The philanthropist, the Moralist,
and the Man of Genius will on this Subject have the happy Opportunity
of affixing an indelible Impression of Virtue on the female Mind, which
Accident can never impair, nor Artifice obliterate.'
Daily Advertiser October 18
1393. October 21, 1788 Christian Areopagus
'Whether the Rev. Mr. Huntington in preaching the rigid Decrees of
Election, or the Rev. Mr. Winchester in insisting on the Doctrine of
Universal Salvation, approaches nearer the true Character of a Gospel
Minister?
The above Question will undergo a fair and free Debate. . . The Doctrines of these popular Preachers being considered by their respective
Followers as unanswerable, though totally contradictory to each other,
several Gentlemen who profess themselves sincere Enquirers after
Truth have requested the Managers to bring forward the Question, it
being a subject in which every Christian is immediately concerned.'
Daily Advertiser October 20
1394. October 22, 1788 Christian Conference
'What are we to think of particular and universal Redemption, which
is most scriptural and rational, or are both so?'
Daily Advertiser October 21
1395. October 22, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Were a General Election to take place, would the Independent
Electors of Westminster prove themselves Friends to the Constitutional
Liberties of this Country, by re-electing Mr. FOX, and rejecting LORD
HOOD?
An eminent Political Character, a Patron of Liberty, and of this Institution, is the author of the above Question. Its importance must unquestionably be felt. Mr. Fox is charged by many with having, in several
instances, and particularly in the late Westminster Election, made an
attack on the essence of the Constitution, of which he has professed
himself the zealous Guardian; while on the other hand his conduct is
said by others to entitle him to live in the warmest applause of every
Friend to Freedom and Britain.'
The World
1396. October 22, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is it justifiable for a Man to fight a Duel with the Seducer of his Daughter, or Sister, or in vindication of the honour of the Lady he loves?'
The World
1397. October 23, 1788 Coachmakers hall
'Does it not reflect Disgrace upon a People who boast of being free to
preclude any of their Fellow Subjects from an equal Participation of
Liberty on Account of their religious Principles?
The celebrated Dr. Price has maintained, that all Civil Establishments
of Religion ought to be considered as "Boundaries placed by human
Folly to human Investigation"; and that no free Country can without
the Imputation of Injustice deprive a Subject of any part of his Liberty
on Account of his religious Sentiments. Several other Learned Divines
and Politicians having on the contrary contended, that the Roman Catholicks and some other Sectaries cannot, consistently with the Safety of
a free State, be allowed an equal Share of Liberty with others.'
Daily Advertiser
1398. October 27, 1788 Free Debate, Capel Court
'Which is the greater Virtue, Sincerity in Friendship or Constancy in
Love?
Impressed with a grateful Sense of that publick Patronage with which
the Capel Court Debates have been honoured, the Conductors pledge
themselves to select such Questions as join publick Utility and moral
Improvement to rational Delight; no Indulgence will be withheld from
young Gentlemen who wish to acquire the Habit of publick Speaking,
and every Effort will be . . . to render the Utility of the Society equal
to it Popularity.'
Times October 25
1399. October 28, 1788 Christian Areopagus
'Whether the Rev. Mr. Huntington in preaching the rigid Decrees of
Election, or the Rev. Mr. Winchester in insisting on the Doctrine of
Universal Salvation, approaches nearer the true Character of a Gospel
Minister?'
Daily Advertiser October 27
1400. October 29, 1788 Christian Conference
'What are we to think of particular and universal Redemption, which
is most scriptural and rational, or are both so?'
Daily Advertiser October 28
1401. October 29, 1788 Times
'It is a disgrace to the modesty of the sex, to see a woman debating a
question among a parcel of idle apprentice boys, at a Sixpenny Assemblage, in so well regulated a city as that of London. The Lord Mayor
should look to this matter, which certainly ought not to have permission, and thus under his very eye set his authority at defiance. The
debating ladies would be much better employed at their needle and
thread, a good sempstress being a more amiable character than a female
orator. A dissertation on Mantua-Making, if the ladies are to speak in
public, must be of greater benefit than a dispute about Sincerity in
Friendship, Constancy in Love - Charlotte's ideal grief, Werter's romancing tomb - Albert's mock matrimony.
1402. October 29, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Were a General Election to take place, would the Independent
Electors of Westminster prove themselves Friends to the Constitutional
Liberties of this Country, by re-electing Mr. FOX, and rejecting LORD
HOOD?
An eminent Political Character, a Patron of Liberty, and of this Institution, is the author of the above Question. Its importance must unquestionably be felt. Mr. Fox is charged by many with having, in several
instances, and particularly in the late Westminster Election, made an
attack on the essence of the Constitution, of which he has professed
himself the zealous Guardian; while on the other hand his conduct is
said by others to entitle him to live in the warmest applause of every
Friend to Freedom and Britain.'
The World
1403. October 29, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is it justifiable for a Man to fight a Duel with the Seducer of his Daughter, or Sister, or in vindication of the honour of the Lady he loves?'
Decided that a man was justified in fighting such a duel.
The World
1404. October 30, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Does it not reflect Disgrace upon a People who boast of being free to
preclude any of their Fellow Subjects from an equal Participation of
Liberty on Account of their religious Sentiments?
The Mind of Man cannot be better employed than in the Discovery of
Truth; free Debate tends to this noble Purpose, and is one of the Privileges of the British Nation.'
Daily Advertiser October 29
1405. November 3, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Which is the greater Virtue, Sincerity in Friendship or Constancy in
Love?'
Daily Advertiser November 1
1406. November 4, 1788 Christian Areopagus, Kings Arms Tavern,
Grafton Street Soho
'Whether the Rev. Mr. Huntington in preaching the rigid Decrees of
Election, or the Rev. Mr. Winchester in insisting on the Doctrine of
Universal Salvation, approaches nearer the true Character of a Gospel
Ministry?'
Debate terminated in favour of Mr. Huntington.
Daily Advertiser November 3
1407. November 5, 1788 Westminster Forum for Free Debate, King
Street Covent Garden
'Does the Conduct of the Administration or the Opposition approach
nearer to Revolutionary Principles?'
Decision favoured Administration.
Morning Post November 11
1408. November 5, 1788 Christian Conference, Blossom Street Chapel,
Norton Falgate
'Is it possible to reconcile our Calvinist and Arminian Brethren? or may
Election and the Perseverance of the Saints be made scripturally and
reasonably to harmonize with the freedom of the Will and general
Redemption?'
Admission in the Body of the chapel 6d. Outside the bars 2d.
Daily Advertiser November 4
1409. November 5, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Are we more indebted for our Liberties to the Revolution or to the
Barons for obtaining Magna Carta?'
More indebted for our liberties to the Revolution.
Daily Advertiser November 11
1410. November 6, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Does it not reflect Disgrace upon a People who boast of being free to
preclude any of their Fellow Subjects from an equal Participation of
Liberty on Account of their Religious Sentiments?'
Audience decided 'against the policy of granting every denomination
of Christian an equal participation of Civil Liberty'.
Daily Advertiser November 5/The World
1411. November 10, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Is Mr. Pope's Assertion true, That Every Woman is at Heart a Rake?
It is the Aim of the Conductors of these Debates to present the Publick
with original Questions; but at the Solicitation of many Ladies, who
wished to hear one of their own Sex defend them against the Sarcasm
of the above celebrated Writer, they have dispensed with the Observance of their usual Custom.'
Daily Advertiser November 8
1412. November 11, 1788 Christian Areopagus
'Does Reason or Revelation countenance a Belief in the Appearance
of Ghosts and Apparitions?'
Daily Advertiser November 10
1413. November 12, 1788 Christian Conference
'Is it possible to reconcile our Calvinist and Arminian Brethren, or may
Election and the Perseverance of the Saints be made scripturally and
reasonably to harmonize with the Freedom of the Will and universal
Redemption?'
Daily Advertiser November 11
1414. November 12, 1788 Westminster Forum
SEDUCTION - ROWE'S FAIR PENITENT
'I swear I could not see the lovely false betrayer
Kneel at my feet, and sigh to be forgiven,
But my relenting heart would pardon all,
And quite forget 'twas he that had undone me.'
'Are the above lines expressive of the real feelings of the Female Heart
under the misfortune of Seduction?
This question was received from a lady no less celebrated for her exalted
rank, than her splendid abilities and distinguished patriotism.'
Morning Post November 11
1415. November 12, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Which is the greater Cause of Matrimonial Infelicity, the Neglect of
Dress and Behaviour in the Wife, or the Want of Respect and Attention
in the Husband?'
Daily Advertiser November 11
1416. November 13, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Is it not a Principal Cause of Conjugal Unhappiness that Gentlemen
pay more Respect to the Ladies when in Courtship than after Marriage?
Whatever has a tendency to explore the sources of matrimonial infelicity
must be of concern to the public in general. To a cause of conjugal
misery, the late death of an amiable young Lady has been attributed,
to whom the words of an elegant Poet are justly applicable:
Soft as the Balm the gentle gale distills,
Sweet as the fragrance of the new mown Hills,
Her opening Mind a thousand charms reveal'd,
Proof of those thousand that were still conceal'd.'
Question determined in the negative.
The World
1417. November 17, 1788 Times
'To the Editor of the TIMES
Sir,
The following question being advertised in to-day's Paper, to be
debated to-morrow evening in Capel-Court, Bartholomew Lane, I have
suggested a few thoughts upon it, which, if you think worthy notice,
you will please to insert, "Which is the most calculated to promote
licentiousness, the desperate doctrine of predestination, propagated by
the Calvinistic Methodists; the sale of indulgencies in the Church of
Rome; or the system of universal salvation, maintained by the Rev. Mr. Winchester?"
I consider the question as founded on three different principles, calculated to establish an assurance of future happiness, or certain eventual
fate; but as they operate differently, our present enquiry is, which has
the greatest tendency to promote licentiousness. Admitting mankind to
be equally well informed, I can perceive no difference in the consequences of the positions; for the ultimatum of each, being irrevocably
fixed, gives the fullest latitude to the gratification of vicious propensities: but to view their operations on the minds of the ignorant, who are
seldom disposed to think; that, which strikes them in the most plain,
easy, and forcible manner, will certainly have the greatest influence.
As being told therefore, in plain terms, they shall be saved, is evidently
calculated to make the strongest impression: the doctrine of "general
salvation", appears to be the most fertile soil for licentiousness.
I cannot help expressing my concern to find clergymen interesting
themselves in the disquisition of religious topics, in these debating societies, for of all the dangerous systems that may be adopted, none can
be more truly calculated to promote licentiousness and irreligion.
R.'
1418. November 17, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Which is most calculated to promote Licentiousness, the desperate
Doctrine of Predestination, propagated by the Calvinistic Methodists,
the sale of Indulgencies in the Church of Rome, or the System of Universal Salvation maintained by the Rev. Mr. Winchester?
To ascertain the truth or fallacy of the novel Doctrine of the above
popular Preacher is an Office which must deeply interest every Believer
in the Christian Religion. The Pious and well-disposed of all Persuasions
are hereby invited to decide upon a Subject the most awfully important
ever submitted to public consideration.'
Daily Advertiser November 15
1419. November 18, 1788 Christian Areopagus
'Do Reason or Revelation countenance a Belief in the Appearance of
Ghosts and Apparitions?'
Daily Advertiser November 17
1420. November 19, 1788 Westminster School of Eloquence
'Is not the present State of this Country an incontestible Proof that Mr.
Pitt better deserves the Support and Confidence of the People than any
of his Competitors or Predecessors in Office?'
Daily Advertiser November 18
1421. November 19, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Would it not reflect honour on the Bench of Bishops, to use their
efforts for the suppression of Field Preaching, and limit the number of
Methodistical Chapels?
The Managers agree with the learned proposer . . . that a public investigation of subjects like these, may tend to tear in pieces the mask of
hypocrisy; elucidate truths the most important; and display true Religion in its nature, grandeur and Divine Majesty.'
The World
1422. November 20, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Which is the most predominant in the mind of man, the Love of Life,
the Love of Liberty, or the Love of the Fair Sex?'
Morning Chronicle November 27
1423. November 24, 1788 Capel Court Society
'Which is most calculated to promote Licentiousness, the desperate
Doctrine of Predestination, propagated by the Calvinistic Methodists,
the sale of Indulgencies in the Church of Rome, or the System of Universal Salvation maintained by the Rev. Mr. Winchester?'
Daily Advertiser November 22
1424. November 25, 1788 Christian Areopagus, Great Room, King's
Arms Tavern, Grafton Street, Soho
'Whether the Rev. Mr. Lindsey, and the other Ministers who deny the
Divinity of Christ, have not departed more from genuine Christianity
than either the Roman Catholicks or Antinomians?'
Daily Advertiser November 17
1425. November 26, 1788 Christian Conference
'Amongst the different sects of Christians which has most truth and
least errors?'
Daily Advertiser November 25
1426. November 27, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Which is the most predominant in the mind of man, the Love of Life,
the Love of Liberty, or the Love of the Fair Sex?'
Audience determined in favour of the love of the fair sex.
Morning Chronicle November 27
1427. November 27, 1788 Times
'The Debating Societies will shortly undergo the same interdiction as
the Sunday sacred music six-penny meetings - to the great grief or
idle apprentices and industrious pickpockets - a new room is opened,
contrary to an express act of Parliament, near Soho Square, for disputing on religion, and inculcating atheistical principles, against the true
establishment of christianity. This practice it is trusted will be immediately stopped, and the hearers as well as the speakers, committed by
the Magistrates in that division of Westminster. Indeed the Ecclesiastical Court should take up this matter, as religion is now the question
at most of these societies of debate.'
1428. November 28, 1788 Capel Court Society
'Would a Plurality of Wives, as allowed by the Rev. Mr. Madan in his
Thelyphtora, be more productive of Confusion or real Advantage to
Society?'
Daily Advertiser November 22
1429. November 28, 1788 Times
'We must again notice, that, of all matters, religion is a subject which
should not be made the sport of idle prentice boys and scripture
madmen in a debating society. The Magistrates are therefore reminded,
it is their duty to put a total stop to those nuisances by a public notice,
interdicting such idle assemblages.'
1430. December 1, 1788 Capel Court Society
'Was not Charlotte censurable for admitting the Visits of Werter after
she was the Wife of Albert?'
Daily Advertiser November 22
1431. December 2, 1788 Christian Areopagus
'Whether the Rev. Mr. Lindsey, and the other Ministers who deny the
Divinity of Christ, have not departed more from genuine Christianity
than either the Roman Catholicks or Antinomians?'
Daily Advertiser
1432. December 3, 1788 Christian Conference
'If none can be Saved without the Knowledge of the Truth, what will
become of those who never heard of the Truth?'
Daily Advertiser December 2
1433. December 3, 1788 Westminster Forum, King Street Covent
Garden
'Should any event displace the present Administration, and fix the
leaders of opposition in the seat of power, would it be advantageous or
injurious to the welfare of this country?
Were the managers permitted publicly to announce the name of the
author of this question (who is expected to speak on it), public curiosity
would indeed be highly stimulated. They, however, should hold themselves inexcusable not to throw out some hint, that the lovers of debate
may not, through a want of information be disappointed of hearing
perhaps one of the first orations ever expected in a society of this
nature.'
Morning Post.
1434. December 4, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Are the Fair Sex capable of acquiring as much Wisdom and Knowledge
as the Male?
As it is the object of this Society to mingle entertainment with mental
improvement, and to draw the minds of both sexes from fashionable
follies and pernicious pleasures to the salutary pursuit of wisdom and
the chaste delights of virtue. Questions are proposed to suit the various
tastes of the multitude, in order that they may be induced by degrees, to
prefer, and at length reap the benefits of a rational place of amusement.'
The audience decided that the female sex were not as capable of acquiring so much wisdom and knowledge as the male.
Morning Chronicle December 3
1435 December 8, 1788 Capel Court Society
'Is it not a Violation of the boasted Liberties of Great Britain to tolerate
Slaving in any part of her Dominions?'
Advertisement talks of 'the Arcana of this inhuman Traffick'.
Daily Advertiser December 6
1436. December 8, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Whether the Doctrine maintained by Mr. Fox in the House of Commons, respecting the Regency, justified Mr. Pitt in charging him with
speaking little less than Treason against the Constitution of this
Country?
In the Decision of this Question, every Man who has a Regard for the
Constitution, to which he owes the Privileges of a Briton, must feel
himself intimately concerned. A fair and free Debate upon Subjects
which involve the dearest Rights of a free People cannot be held in a
Place more eligible than a popular Institution, situated in the Heart of
the Capital, in the Presence of an Assembly of Citizens, whose Judgment, and whose Interest upon the Event of every political Discussion,
plead the Propriety of introducing the above Question at the Present
important Crisis.'
Daily Advertiser
1437. December 10, 1788 Christian Conference
'What is the true Characteristick of a Christian?
Admission Inside the Bar 6d. where each Gentleman may introduce a
Wife, Daughter, or Sister gratis.'
Daily Advertiser December 9
1438. December 10, 1788 Westminster Forum, Removed from Spring
Gardens to King Street, Covent Garden
'Which would have the greater tendency to maintain the honour and
advantage of this Country - a conjunct, or individual Regency?'
Morning Post
1439December 11, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Whether the great Extent and Grandeur of the Metropolis is not a
Proof of the Increase of Luxury, and injurious to the national
Prosperity?
A Petition has been presented to the Managers by a Number of Poor
but intelligent Peasants, complaining of the Injury to Agriculture by
the Number of new Buildings about every Part of this Capital, and
praying that the above Question may be publickly debated. . . As some
of the brightest Ornaments of the Law and the Senate have acknowledged their Obligations to this popular Institution, many Gentlemen
of distinguished Rank and Abilities are expected to attend on this
Occasion.'
The majority declared 'that the increase of the Metropolis was not
injurious to national prosperity'.
Times December 10/The World December 12
1440. December 15, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Which manifested himself the true Friend of the Constitution, Mr. Fox
in asserting, That the Prince of Wales has a positive Claim to the Executive Power, as a Regent; or Mr. Pitt in maintaining, That his Royal
Highness possesses no more Right to that Office than any other
Subject?'
Daily Advertiser December 13
1441. December 17, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Which is more constitutional, the assertion of Mr. Fox, The Prince of
Wales has the same right to the exercise of regal power as if his Majesty
were really dead; or that of Mr. Pitt - His Royal Highness has no more
right to such power than any subject within the realm?
Free Debate is one of the valuable privileges of the British constitution.
To collect the public opinion upon subjects of the last importance, is
the duty of those who conduct societies of this nature, the Managers
have, therefore, in this crisis, submitted the above enquiry to the consideration of that Public, whose dearest interests are connected with its
discussion.'
Morning Post
1442. December 18, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Whether the Doctrine maintained by Mr. Fox in the House of Commons, respecting the Regency, justified Mr. Pitt in charging him with
speaking little less than Treason against the Constitution of this
Country?'
Daily Advertiser December 17
1443. December 22, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Should the Prince of Wales be appointed Regent, would his Royal
Highness more essentially promote the Interests of this Nation by
retaining Mr. Pitt as Prime Minister, or dismissing him from the Public
Service?'
Daily Advertiser December 20
1444. December 23, 1788 Coachmakers Hall
'Whether the Doctrine maintained by Mr. Fox in the House of Commons, respecting the Regency, justified Mr. Pitt in charging him with
little less than Treason to the Constitution of this Country?'
Question determined in favour of Mr. Pitt.
Daily Advertiser
1445. December 24, 1788 Westminster Forum
'In the present critical situation of affairs, would Mr. Pitt, by forming
a junction with Mr. Fox, attach to his character any of that particular
odium which the enemies of Mr. Fox attribute to him for his coalition
with Lord North?
From the well-known powers of humour possessed by some gentlemen
who have promised to attend the debate, much keen satire and ironical
remarks may be expected; at the same time the subject by no means
precludes the Patriot, the Orator, and the Man of Genius from displaying the advantages that may probably result to this country from
so conciliatory a measure.'
Morning Post
1446. December 29, 1788 Capel Court Debates
'Is it not an Instance of great Partiality, inconsistency, and Injustice, in
the Free Masons, to exclude the Fair Sex from a Knowledge of their
Secret?'
Question decided in favour of Free Masonry.
Daily Advertiser December 27
1447 December 31, 1788 Westminster Forum
'Which is the wiser Man - he who marries, or he who remains single?
The alarming situation of public affairs having lately engrossed the
attention of this Society, the Managers trust any apology for deferring
questions of a more entertaining, though less important nature, is altogether unnecessary.'
Morning Post