House of Commons Journal Volume 12
14 December 1697

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 14 December 1697', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 12: 1697-1699 (1803), pp. 6-9. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=39509 Date accessed: 24 July 2014.


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Martis, 14 die Decembris;

Nono Gulielmi Tertii.

Prayers.

Army Extras in Flanders.

THE Earl of Ranelagh, according to Order, presented to the House an Estimate of the Arrear of the extraordinary Charge of the War in Flanders, &c.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Subsidies to the First of November 1697.

Rixdollars. £. s. £. s.
To the Elector of Brandenburg 180,000 45,000
Hesse-Cassell 254,000 63,500
Wollfembuttle 121,221½ 30,305 10
Munster 149,997½ 37,500
Hanover and Cell 50,000 12,500
Holsteine 25,000 6,250
Brought over 195,055 10
Subsidies to Denmark 50,000
To Machado and Periera, their Arrears for Bread furnished to the Auxiliaries £
40,000
To Vander Kaa, for Bread and Forage 30,000
To Heycoop For Forage 40,000
Craynest 12,000
General Officers, &c. in several Years 15,000
To Fariscau, and Partners, the present Contractors for Forage 40,000 177,000
(fn. *) [To the King's Aids de Camp 1,500
Physick for the Army, about 4,500] [6,000 —]
£. 428,055 10

Woollen Manufacture.

A Petition of the Mayor, Aldermen, Deputy-Lieutenants, Common-Council, Merchants, Clothiers, Fullers, and other Traders in the Woollen Manufacture, in the City of Exon, and Parts adjacent, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Trade of the Woollen Manufacture is greatly decayed and discouraged in those Parts, by reason that Irish Wool is not directly brought into the Port of Exon; and that the said Trade is greatly increased in Ireland, to the great Diminution thereof in England: And praying the Consideration of the House, and Relief in the Premises.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill, upon the Matter of the said Petition: And that Sir Edward Seymour, and Sir John Elwell, do prepare, and bring in, the Bill: And that they do provide for the preventing the Exportation of Wool to France, either from England or Ireland.

Trade with Ireland.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to consider of the Trade of England and Ireland; and how to make the Trade of this Kingdom more beneficial.

And it is referred to Mr. Chancellor of Exchequer, Mr. Blofeild, Sir Rowland Gwyn, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Bridges, Sir John Bolles, Sir Tho. Davall, Sir Phil. Butler, Lord Pawlett, Mr. Bromley, Lord Coningsby, Mr. Cowper, Mr. Stonehouse, Mr. Norris, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Onslow, Mr. Henly, Mr. Colt, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Clark, Mr. Culliford, Lord Digby, Mr. Fuller, Sir John Elwell, Mr. Boscawen, Sir Sam. Barnardiston, Mr. Burrington, Mr. Tayler, Mr. Harrison, Sir Richard Onslow, Mr. Bohun, Mr. Heveningham, Sir Wm. Coriton, Sir John Kay, Sir Cha. Turner, Mr. York, Mr. Chenie, Sir Fran. Masham, Mr. Moore, Sir Edward Seymour, Mr. Burrard, Mr. Harley: And all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chambers.

Abolishing Payments of Smoak-Silver, &c.

Mr. Boscawen, according to Order, presented to the House a Bill to take away the Payments of Smoak-silver, Peter-pence, or Common Fine, payable at the Sheriff's Turn: And the same was received.

The Bill was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.

Ordnance Debt.

Mr. Lowther presented to the House an Account of the Debt of the Office of Ordnance, for Stores delivered, and Services performed, to the last Day of September 1697; and also what hath occurred since, exclusive of the Debt before November 1688.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Office of Ordnance.

Due to the last of September 1697, for Stores delivered, and Services performed to that Time £. s. d.
137,086
Due since that Time 17,090 16 8
Due to the Train of Artillery in Flanders 43,980 9 8
Due upon the Expedition to Newfoundland, Bomb-Vessels, &c. 6,000
                                                                                                                                                                  £. 204,157 6 4

Remaining in the Treasurer's Hands,

Sea-Service, In Tallies on the Poll 9,000
Ditto, on the Fourth 4 s. Aid 3,500
Ditto, on the 3 s. Aid 10,000
Ditto, on Salt, &c. 51,912 11 7
In Malt Tickets 5,180 19 11
Land-Service, In Tallies, on Three-fourths of the Customs 11,900
Ditto, on the First 4 s. Aid 2,300
Ditto, on the Poll 8,320 1
Ditto, on Salt 58,690
Ditto, on Marriages, &c. 1,301 2 2
Ditto, on the 3 s. Aid 11,000
Ditto, on Malt-Tickets 5,000
                                                                                                                                        £. 178,104 14 10½

C. Musgrave,
Ja. Lowther,
Wm. Boulter.

Memorandum: These Tallies cannot be discounted; and therefore must wait many Years their Payment in Course; so at present are of no Use towards discharging any Part of the Debts, or carrying on the Business of the Office.

Jo. Charleton.

Navy Debt.

Sir Robert Rich, according to Order, presented to the House an Estimate of the general Debt of his Majesty's Navy; calculated to the 30th of September 1697.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Admiralty-Office, 14th December 1697.

£.
Due on Bills in the Second Book; namely, Pursers Balance Bills, and for extra necessary Money, Pensions, Half-pays, Surgeons, Free-Gift, Pilotage, &c. occurred before the 26th of March 1686. 40,000

Wear and Tear.

Due on Bills in the present Register, for Stores of all Sorts, Workmanship, Freight of hired Men of War and Tenders, Disbursements, Salaries, Pensions, Bounty to Widows and Orphans, Pilotage, Transportation of Stores, Imprests, Bills of Exchange; and for Masts, Plank, Pitch, Tar, Timber, and other Stores now delivering; Disbursements, Freight of Men of War and Tenders; and other Services, for which no Bills are yet made out; and the Debts of the Out-Ports; the Sum of £.
222,258 376,051
For Wages to his Majesties Yards, Guard-Ships, and Ordinaries 153,793

Navy Debt.

Seamens Wages.

£. £.
For Wages to his Majesty's Ships, in Pay, to Michaelmas 1696, which are not yet paid up to that time 983,752 1,862,849
For Wages for all his Majesty's Ships in Pay, from the 1st October 1696, to the 30th of September 1697 719,044
For the Recalls of those paid off whose Books are not yet cleared; calculated from the said Books, by casting each Man's Wages remaining unpaid thereon, as also what remains in Arrears on the Books made up 160,053

Victualling.

£.
For the Service of victualling his Majesty's Navy, according to an Account received of the same from the Commissioners thereof, over and above the Money in their Hands, 182,114

Sick and Wounded.

For the Service of the Sick and Wounded, as per an Account received from those Commissioners, over and above the Money in their Hands 45,120

Register-Office.

£.
Due to the Seamen that have registered themselves for his Majesty's Service, according to the late Act of Parliament, on Account of their annual Allowance of 40 s. a Man, the Sum of 16,389
Total is Two Millions Five hundred Twenty-two thousand Five hundred Twenty-three Pounds 2,522,523
Memorand. There is remaining in Tallies, in the Hands of the Treasurer of the Navy, about 1,000,000
H. Preistman,
R. Rich
G. Rooke,
J. Houblon,
Kendall,
G. Wharton.

Cruisers.

Sir Robert Rich also, from the Commissioners of the Admiralty, presented to the House an Account of Cruisers according to Act of Parliament.

And the Title thereof was read.

Money due to Regiments.

The Lord Conningsby presented to the House an Account of what remains due to several Regiments under the Care of his Lordship, and Charles Fox Esquire, to the time they were placed on the English Establishment.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Regiments whose Accounts were stated soon after the War of Ireland, to the 1st April 1692.

£. s. d. £. s. d.
Royal Regiment of Horse 2,344 18 21/8 26,758 10
Lord Gallwaye's 2,261 15 8
Brigadier Leveson's, late Villier's 2,234 15
Brigadier Lumley 1,841 4
Colonel Langston, broke in Flanders 1,292 12
Colonel Coy 1,941 8
Colonel Windham 1,478 16
Royal Regiment of Dragoons 1,415 1 17/8
Colonel Lloyd's, late Leveson's, Dragoons 1,838
Colonel Selwyn's Regiment of Foot 1,196 1 55/8
Colonel Trelawnye's 582
Colonel Brewer's 2,023 11 10¾
Colonel Tiffin 2,104 17 97/8
Colonel Webb, late Beaumont's 1,912 17
Sir John Jacob, late Hastings 1,998 9 27/8
Company of Miners 291 18 10¼
Regiments whose Accounts are stated to the 31st of December 1691.
Colonel Ross Dragoons, late Wynn's 8,264 18 54,677 7 10¼
Sir Hen. Belasys Regiment of Foot 4,706 19
Brigadier Stewart's 6,905 3 33/8
Colonel Coot, late Lisburne's 7,333 11 10¾
Colonel Brudenell, late Row 6,476 12
Colonel La Melonier 7,361 16 41/8
Count Marton, late Du Cambon's 7,211 13
Colonel Belcastle 6,416 12 5/8
From the 1st April 1692, to the 1st of May 1693.
Colonel Frederick Hamilton's 3,349 18 6,954 12
Colonel Foulk's, now Colonel Lillingston's 3,604 14 4
88,390 10 95/8
More due to the Three French Regiments of Foot from the 1st of May 1692, when they came the Second time out of Ireland, to the 1st of May 1694, at which time they were placed on the English Establishment 11,561 7
Coningsby. Cha. Fox. £. 99,951 18 41/8

Transport Debt.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of Transports do lay before this House an Account of the Debt owing upon Account of Transport-Service.

Accounts referred.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the several States, Estimates, and Accounts, which have been presented to the House, be referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Resolved, That it be an Instruction to the said Committee, That they do consider of a Gratuity to be given to such Officers and Soldiers of the English Army, who are, or shall be, disbanded.

Soldiers to exercise Trades.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to enable Soldiers, who shall be disbanded, to exercise their Trades: And that Mr. Hammond, and Mr. Moyle do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.

Supply.

The House according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Sir Thomas Littleton took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir Thomas Littleton reported from the said Committee, That they had taken Consideration of the States, Estimates, and Accounts, to them referred; and had directed him to move, That the same may be referred to a select Committee, to examine.

Resolved, That it be referred to a select Committee, to examine the said States, Estimates, and Accounts; and to report the Matter of Fact to the House.

And it is referred to Mr. Chancellor of Exchequer, Sir Chr. Musgrave, Sir Richard Onslow, Lord Spencer, Lord Coningsby, Sir El. Harvey, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayers, Mr. Wharton, Mr. Daniel, Mr. Gwynn, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Newport, Sir Robert Clayton, Mr. Mason, Sir John Bolles, Sir Walt. Yonge, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Wm. Williams, Sir Wm. Scawen, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Onslow, Mr. Arnold, Sir Wm. St. Quintin, Mr. Harvey, Mr. Lowndes, Mr. Neale, Mr. Bethell, Sir Edward Seymour, Sir Hen. Colt, Mr. Boyle, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Harley, Mr. Bromley, Lord Ranelagh, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Bridges, Lord Digby, Mr. Norris, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Kendall, Sir Tho. Dyke, Sir John Elwell, Sir Rowland Gwynn, Sir Hen. Hobart, Lord Pawlet, Mr. Clark, Sir Wm. Lowther, Mr. Colt, Sir Tho. Hussey, Sir Robert Rich, Colonel Granville: And they are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon at Four a Clock, in the Speaker's Chambers.

Sir Thomas Littleton also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the said Committee to move the House, That they may have Leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday Morning next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Receipts and and Issues of Revenue.

Ordered, That the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury do lay before this House an Account of the Receipts and Issues of the Revenue, for the Year ending at Michaelmas last.

Ordered, That an Account be also laid before this House how the Revenue stands charged.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine a Clock.

Footnotes

* These Articles between Brackets are omitted in the Journal, and are supplied from the Account which was presented to the House.