House of Commons Journal Volume 12
20 January 1698

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 20 January 1698', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 12: 1697-1699 (1803), pp. 53-56. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=39534 Date accessed: 24 November 2014.


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Jovis, 20 die Januarii ;

Nono Gulielmi Tertii.

Prayers.

Duties on Leather.

A PETITION of the Fellmongers, Glovers, and Leather-dressers, within the Borough of Richmond in the County of York, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That, by the Duty laid upon Sheep and Lambs Leather, the Market that the Petitioners keep are become so very low, that they can scarce take so much Money as will defray their Charges and Expences; and this Decay of Trade has brought the Petitioners into a very low Condition; and should the said Tax be continued, it will be their utter Ruin: And praying the same may be taken off.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee, to whom the Petition of the Aldermen, Stewards, and Company of Fellmongers, Leather-dressers, and Glovers, in the City of Chester, is referred: And that they do examine the Matter; and report the same, with their Opinion therein, to the House.

Poor Relief.

Mr. Pagit, according to Order, presented to the House a Bill to explain the Act, passed the last Session of Parliament, intituled, An Act for supplying some Defects in the Laws for Relief of the Poor of this Kingdom: And the same was received.

The Bill was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.

Turner's Estate.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for supplying a Defect in a Conveyance lately made by Sir Edward Turner Knight, and Charles Turner Esquire, his Son, for the more effectual securing the Sum of 12,000 l. and Interest, upon their Estate.

Privilege.

A Complaint being made to the House, by Mr. Tankard, a Member of this House, That Mr. Edward Morris, Minister of Aldborough in the County of York, had intercepted Letters of the said Mr. Tankard's, which were sent by the Post;

Ordered, That the said Mr. Morris be summoned to attend this House, upon Monday come Fortnight, to answer the said Complaint.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Sir Bazil Dixwell have Leave to go into the Country for Three Weeks, having been lately very ill.

Irish Arrears.

Mr. Fox presented to the House an Account, touching the Matter of the Petition of Archibald Lawrimer, and Jacob Smith, in behalf of themselves, and others the Soldiers under the Command of the late Colonel Robert Bierly, and Colonel Hugh Windham, in the Reducing of Ireland.

And the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.

In obedience to an Order of the 3d Instant, We do humbly represent to this House, That the Pay-Office doth only keep a general Account between the King and each Regiment: And therefore it is impossible for us to give an Account of what is due to any particular Officer or Soldier; which the Captains of each Troop or Company can only do: And therefore it will be necessary, That the Colonel and Captains of the Regiment of Horse, commanded by Colonel Hugh Windham, to which Archibald Lawrimer, Jacob Smith, &c. your Petitioners, did belong, be directed to state the Accounts of their respective Troops, in order to their being satisfied out of what remains still due to clear the Regiment to the 1st of April 1692; which is the Sum of 1,478 l. 16 s. 6¾d.

All which is most humbly submitted to the great Wisdom of this House.

Coningsby.

January 18th, 1697.

Cha. Fox.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition and Account be referred to the Committee, to whom the Petition of Thomas Oldershaw and John Williams, on behalf of themselves, and the rest of the Troopers who served in Colonel Langston's Regiment during the Wars of Ireland, and since incorporated into several Regiments in Flanders, is referred: And that they do examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinion therein, to the House.

Irish Arrears.

A Petition of the Men reduced out of the Right Honourable the Earl of Arran's Regiment of Horse, in behalf of themselves, and several other Regiments of Light Horse, and the Right Honourable the Lord Raby's Dragoons, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That they had their Horses taken from them in Flanders, without any Satisfaction, though they brought them in: That, ever since 1693, they have paid 6d. per Day for mounting, except last Campaign, and in 1694, when Nine Guilders a Man was allowed to him that brought his Horse into Garison in good Order: That 3½ d. a Day has been stopped out of their Subsistence all the time they were in Flanders, for Returns of Money; and they are not yet paid their Irish Arrears: That they have waited Nine Weeks, since their Arrival in England, expecting what is due to the Petitioners; the Disappointment whereof, has reduced many of them to want Bread: And praying, That they may have Justice done them.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee, to whom the Petition of Tho. Oldershaw and John Williams, on behalf of themselves, and the rest of the Troopers who served in Colonel Langston's Regiment during the Wars of Ireland, and since incorporated into several Regiments in Flanders, is referred: And that they do examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinion therein, to the House.

Bampfyld's Estate.

A Bill to enable certain Trustees, therein named, to make, renew, and fill up, Leases of the Estate of Sir Coppleston Warwick Bampfyeld, during his Minority; and in case of his Death without Issue Male, during the Minority of his Brother John Bampfyld; was read a Second time.

And the Question being put, That the Bill be committed;

The House divide.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Sir Francis Drake,
Sir John Elwell:
110.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr. Shackerly,
Mr. Manley:
  85.

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

And it is committed to Mr. Hooper, Mr. Vincent, Mr. Palmer, Sir Wm. Bowes, Sir Francis Drake, Mr. Hobby, Sir Fra. Masham, Mr. Harley, Sir Robert Burdet, Sir Wm. Drake, Mr. Ettrick, Mr. Farrer, Sir John Elwell, Mr. Drake, Lord Castleton, Mr. Bertie, Mr. Boscawen, Sir John Banks, Mr. Gwynn, Mr. Freke, Mr. Foley, Mr. Henly, Mr. Smith, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Whitaker, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Hoblyn, Mr. Serjeant Bond, Sir Cha. Turner, Mr. Foley, Sir Wm. Coriton, Sir Joseph Jekyll, Mr. Crocker; and all the Members that serve for the Counties of Cornwall, Devon, and Somerset: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four a Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

And the Petition of John Forster Clerk, Mary Forster Widow, John Stamp, and Katherine his Wife, Margaret Garret, Henry Farwell Clerk, and Eliz. his Wife, Heirs at Law to Warwick Bampfyld Esquire, deceased, which was presented to the House upon Monday last, and ordered to lie upon the Table till the said Bill was read the Second time, was again read.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee, to whom the said Bill is committed.

Grants from the Crown.

Ordered, That the Receivers and Auditors of the Duchy of Lancaster do lay before this House an Account of all Grants, since the 3d Day of December 1696, in that Duchy.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of the Constat annexed to a Warrant of the 12th of January 1697, importing a Grant of Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, Parcel of the Manor and Bailiwick of St. James's, in the County of Middlesex; included in the Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of a List, directed in Letters to the Lords Justices of Ireland, of the 15th of September 1697, for granting several forfeited Lands and Estates, specified therein, amounting to the clear yearly Value of 2,001 l. 18s. 9½d. included in the Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of a Schedule, annexed to Letters to the Lords Justices of Ireland, of the 23d of April 1697, for granting unto Maurice Annesley Debts, Judgments, Mortgages, and Incumbrances therein mentioned, on a Report from the chief Governors; included in the said Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of the Schedule, mentioned in Letters to the Lords Justices of Ireland, of the 1st of December 1697, for demising to Thomas Cook several Lands forfeited to his Majesty; together with a Report of the Lords Justices, relating thereunto; included in the said Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of the Schedule, specified in a Letter to the Lords Justices of Ireland, of the 15th of September 1697, for granting to the Marquis of Puisar, and his Heirs, several forfeited Estates, therein specified; included in the said Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That an Account be laid before this House of all Grants, made in England and Ireland, of Estates real and personal, since the 13th Day of February 1688.

Ordered, That an Account be laid before this House of all Gifts and Gratuities, since the said 13th Day of February 1688.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Copy of the Warrant, mentioned in Letters to the Lords Justices of Ireland, of the 16th of April 1697, for granting to Thom. Raylton Esquire, several Judgments forfeited to his Majesty in Ireland, on a Report of the Lords Justices, and Mr. Attorney-General, of Ireland; together with the said Report; included in the said Account of Grants laid before this House.

Ordered, That the Clerk of the Crown do lay before this House Copies of all Bills which have passed under the Great Seal of England, to be passed into Acts of Parliament in Ireland, for Confirming of any Grants of forfeited Estates there.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday Morning next, take into a Consideration the Accounts of Grants from the Crown, laid before this House.

Accounts from Ordnance Office.

Sir Henry Goodrick presented to the House an Account of Monies received by the Treasurer and Paymaster to the Office of his Majesty's Ordnance, in the Years 1685, 1686, 1687, and 1688: And also,

An Estimate of the Charge of the Office of his Majesty's Ordnance for Land-Service, for the Year 1698.

And the same were read; and are as follow; viz.

The Treasurer and Paymaster's Accounts of Monies received.

£. s. d.
In the Years 1685. Between the 30th June 1684, and the 30th of June 1685 63,739
1686. Between the 30th of June 1685, and the 30th of June 1686 75,692 8 6
1687. Between the 30th of June 1687, and the 30th of June 1687 97,211 8
1688. Between the 30th of June 1687, and the 30th June 1688 100,001 6 4

Office of Ordnance,
17 January 1697/8.

H. Goodrick,
Jon. Charlton,
C. Musgrave,
Ja. Lowther.

Memorandum. There was a Debt of above 60,000 l. contracted by the Office of Ordnance, in the Reign of the late King James.

The said Estimate. £. s. d.
Allowances and Wages to the Master General, principal Officers, Storekepers, Clerks, Labourers, Gunners, Fire-masters, Fire-workers, Bombardiers, &c. daily attendant and employed in the Office at the Tower, Berwick, Carlisle, Chatham, Gravesend, Jersey, Kinsale, Plymoth, Portsmouth, Sheernesse, Tilbury, Tinmouth, Upnor-Castle, Windsor, &c. 16,560 7 6
Rents of Houses for Officers, Governors, Store-keepers, Clerks, Labourers, &c.; and of Store-houses in Goodman's Fields, at Plymouth, Portsmouth, Kinsale, &c. 707
Increase proposed, of Eight Engineers, Six Gentlemen of the Ordnance, Twelve Bombardiers, and Sixty Gunners 2,573
Repairing Platforms, which are very defective, at most of the Forts, Castles, and Garisons, in England 6,000
Charge of Standing Carriages, &c. and repairing Defects of Carriages, at the said Forts, Castles, and Garisons 3,000
Repairing the Barracks, Bridges, Gates, &c. at the said Forts, Castles, and Garisons 6,000
Furnishing Beds, Bedsteads, and Sheets, for the Barracks at the said Forts, Castles, and Garisons; supposing but 5,000 Men to be quartered therein 10,000
Expence of Ladles, Sponges, Match, Petty Emptions, and other Gunners Stores, and Flags, at the said Forts, Castles, and Garisons 3,000
Transporting Stores to and from the said Forts, Castles, Garisons, &c. for furnishing them, and bringing away such as are defective and unserviceable, or otherwise 1,500
Incident Charges for Engineers to survey and make Draughts and Estimates of necessary Repairs; and for Clerks, Labourers, &c. to take Remains of Stores, either for delivering them into the Custody of a new Officer, or otherwise, at the said Forts, Castles, and Garisons 2,000
Repairing the Carriages of the Train for Guns, Mortar-pieces, &c. now returning from Flanders; as also Harness, Pontoons, and all other Stores 3,000
Tents for 6,000 Foot, and 4,000 Horse 3,325
Ammunition for Duty and Exercise of the said Foot and Horse 1,500
Repairing of about 30,000 Arms returned, and to be returned, from the Forces already, and to be disbanded 7,500
Keeping clean and repairing Arms, Armour, and other Stores 3,000
Wharfs, Breakers, &c. for the Defence and Security of the Fortifications at Sheernesse 2,000
Stoving, repairing, and new-working, of about 8,000 Barrels of Gunpowder already in Store, and to be returned from the Flanders Train 4,000
Charge of Engineers sent to the Plantations; viz. Barbadoes, Jamaica, Leeward Islands, Bermudus, and New York 1,405 5
The Charge of 500 Ton of Saltpetre, which was always reckoned necessary to be in Store; of which there is now none; at 45 l. per Ton 22,500
                                                                                                                              £. 99,570 12 6

Office of Ordnance,
17 January 1697/8.

H. Goodrick,
Jon. Charleton,
C. Musgrave,
Ja. Lowther.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Account, and Estimate, be referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Preventing Corruption of Juries.

Ordered, That the Bill to prevent the Corrupting of Juries be read a Second time To-morrow Morning.

Grants from the Crown.

A Motion being made, and the Question being put, That an Account be laid before this House of all Grants, made since the 29th Day of May 1660;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Sir Henry Colt,
Mr. Denz. Onslow;
162.
Tellers for the Noes, Sir John Bolles,
Mr. Manly:
119.

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That the Secretary of the Treasury do lay the said Account before this House.

Cashiers of Customs, and Excise.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House an Abstract of what Interest hath been allowed to the Cashiers of the Customs and Excise, since the Year 1670.

Discount on Tallies.

Ordered, That an Account be laid before this House of what Warrants have been directed to the Auditor of the Imprest, for allowing any Interest or Discount of Tallies or Exchequer-Bills.

Supply Bill; Discount on Exchequer Bills.

Sir Thomas Littleton, according to Order, reported from the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill for reducing the Discount on Exchequer-Bills, and giving them a better Currency, was committed, the Amendments made by the Committee to the said Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House; and which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

A Clause was offered to be added to the Bill, with Blanks, That no Broker shall deal for any Parliamentary Security, but such as are appointed by the Treasury:

And the same was twice read; and the Blanks filled up.

And the Clause was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.

Supply.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Buying and selling Offices.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to prevent the Buying and Selling of Offices: And that Colonel Wharton do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Worsley have Leave to go into the Country for Ten Days, upon extraordinary Occasions.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be revived.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine a Clock.