February 1585
On Thursday the 4th day of February (to
which day the Parliament had been on Monday
the 21th day of December foregoing last adjourned) either House assembled together without
all manner of Pomp or Solemnity, as at other
ordinary and usual times, and so fell to the reading of such Bills, and treating of such other businesses as did remain unfinished upon their last
Adjournment.
The first work which the House of Commons
entred upon this morning after Prayers, was the
reading of some Bills not yet passed in their last
Meeting, being four in number, whereof the last
being the Bill for following of Hue and Cry, was
upon the third reading committed unto Sir Henry Cock, Mr Morrice, Mr Wroth, Mr Sandes, Mr
Conisby, and others; and the Bill was delivered
to Mr Sandes, but neither the place or time of
their meeting are set down.
On Friday the 5th day of February the Bill for
confirmation of her Majesties Letters Patents
granted to the Queens Colledge in Oxford was
twice read, and thereupon committed unto Mr
Sandes, Mr Mills, Mr Wade, and others, (and
the Bill was delivered to Mr Sandes) who were
appointed to meet to morrow in the Afternoon
in the Middle Temple Hall.
After which four other Bills of no great moment had each of them one reading; of which
the last being the Bill for explanation of the Statute lately made for the maintenance of Rochester
Bridge, was upon the second reading committed
unto Sir Philip Sidney, Mr Wotton, Mr Diggs, and
others, and the Bill was delivered to Mr Wotton,
who with the rest was appointed to meet to
morrow in the Afternoon in the Middle Temple
Hall.
It was agreed upon the Motion of Mr Speaker
that the House should be called to morrow morning.
On Saturday the 6th day of February two Bills
after the third reading passed upon the Question; of which the last was the Bill that Parsonages impropriate may be disposed to godly and
charitable uses.
The Bill for the Hue and Cry was delivered
in again by the Committees with an addition of
amendment to the same in paper; which addition being twice read, was ordered to be ingrossed and added to the same Bill.
On Monday the 8th day of February three Bills
of no great moment had each of them one reading; of which the last being the Bill to provide
remedy against fraudulent Conveyances was after
the second reading put to the Question, whether
it should be committed or no; and the Voices
for the No appearing upon the division of the
House to be 156, and the Voices for the Yea to
be but 140, was ordered not to be committed.
The addition to the Bill for Hue and Cry being ingrossed, was read the third time, whereupon it passed upon the Question.
On Tuesday the 9th day of February the Committees in the Bill for the Staple Fish were appointed to meet upon Friday next in the Middle
Temple Hall.
The Committees also in the Bill for Shoo-makers were appointed to meet on Saturday next at
the Guild-hall in the Afternoon, and Mr Wotton
and Mr Harries of Lincolns-Inn were added unto
them.
Four Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the last being the
Bill for repairing and maintenance of Sea-banks
and Sea-works on the Sea-coasts in the County
of Norfolk was upon the second reading committed unto Sir William Dymock, Sir Robert Germin, Sir Drew Drury and others, and the Bill was
delivered to Sir Drew Drury, who with the rest
was appointed to meet upon Friday next in the
Afternoon in the Middle Temple Hall.
The Bill for following of Hue and Cry, the
Bill for Swearing of Under-Sheriffs, and the Bill
that Parsonages impropriate may be disposed to
godly and charitable uses, were sent up to the
Lords by Mr. Treasurer, Mr. Vice-Chamberlain
and others.
Mr. Lewkenor, one of the Committees for Rochester Bridge and the Glass-houses, brought in
the Bill touching Rochester Bridge with some amendments; which Bill being then read again,
and the amendments being twice read, it was
ordered to be ingrossed.
A new Bill also concerning Glass-houses was
delivered in by the said Mr. Lewkenor with some
alterations and amendments.
Another Bill also of no great moment concerning the dying of Woollen Clothes, was upon
the second reading committed.
On Wednesday the 10th day of February six
Bills of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the last being the Bill touching Collectors of Issues by Juries, was read the
third time, and upon the Question was committed to the present consideration for a Proviso
unto Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Cromwell, Mr Sands, and others, to confer presently
in the Treasury-Chamber.
Upon a Motion this day made touching the
opinion of this House for Priviledge in a case of
Subpæna out of the Chancery, served upon Richard Cook Esquire a Member of this House, returned a Burgess to this present Parliament for
the Borough of Limmington in the County of
Southampton, It was ordered, That Mr Recorder
of London, Mr Sands and Mr Cromwell attended
on by the Serjeant of this House, shall presently
repair in the Name of the whole House into the
Body of the Court of Chancery, and there to
signifie unto the Lord Chancellor and the Master
of the Rolls, that by the ancient Liberties of this
House the Members of the same are priviledged
from being served with Subpæna's; and to require withal not only the discharge of the said
Mr Cook his appearance before them upon the
said Subpæna, but also to desire that from henceforth upon like cases the said Lord Chancellor
and Master of the Rolls will allow the like Priviledges for other Members of this House to be
signified unto them in writing under Mr Speakers
hand. Vide de ista materia in die sequenti.
It was Ordered, That Mr Anthony Kirle of
the Middle Temple shall be warned by the Serjeant of this House tomorrow in the Afternoon
(sitting the Court) to answer unto such matters
as shall be then and there objected against him
by this House on the behalf of Alban Stepneth
Esquire, being a Member of this House, returned a Burgess into the same for the Town of
Haverford West. Vide plus de ista materia on the
day next ensuing.
On Thursday the 11th day of February the Bill
against partial Juries and Tryals, was upon the
second reading ordered to be ingrossed.
Mr Recorder of London, Mr Cromwell, and
Mr Sandes being returned from the Chancery,
did declare unto the House, that they have been
in Chancery within the Court, and there were
very gently and courteously heard in the delivery of the Message and charge of this House
committed unto them, and were answered by
the Lord Chancellor, that he thought this House
had no such liberty of Priviledge for Subpæna's;
as they pretended; neither would he allow of
any Precedents of this House committed unto
them formerly used in that behalf, unless this
House could also prove the same to have been
likewise thereupon allowed and ratified also by
the Precedents in the said Court of Chancery.
And after some other Speeches and Arguments,
the said Mr. Sandes and Mr. Cromwell were further appointed to search the Precedents of this
House against to morrow, that thereupon this
House may enter into further Consideration of
the state of the Liberties and Priviledges of this
House accordingly. Vide plus concerning this
matter amongst the passages of the day foregoing.
Three Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the last being the
Bill to avoid partial Tryals and Juries, was read
the third time, and passed upon the Question.
Mr. Roger Erith Esquire, one of the Burgesses
for the Borough of Wilton in the County of
Wilts being sick, was upon a Motion made to
this House, licensed to depart into the Country
for the better recovery of his health.
Upon a Motion made by Mr. Recorder, that
those of this House towards the Law, being the
most part of them at the Bars in her Majesties
Courts attending their Clients Causes, and neglecting the Service of this House, be called by
the Serjeant to repair unto this House presently,
and to give their attendance in the service of the
same, It was Ordered, That the Serjeant of this
House do forthwith repair unto all the said
Courts, and there give notice and charge from
this House, that all those of this House that are
in any the same Courts, or at any of the Bars of
the same Courts, shall presently make their repair unto this House, and give their attendance
here. And the said Serjeant being sent shortly
after, many of them came into this House upon
the said Commandment accordingly. After which
said Motion the Bill touching Collectors of Issues
lost by Juries, was passed upon the Question,
without allowance of any Proviso from the
Clerks of the Extracts in the Exchequer.
Upon a Motion made by Sir William Herbert,
that Mr. Recorder of London who erft made a
Motion to this House, That those of the Law
being Members of this House, and then attending at the Bars in the Courts in the Hall, might
be sent for to give their attendance here in this
House, being now since their coming in gone out
of the House himself, and as he was informed,
was presently pleading at the Common Pleas Bar,
to the great abuse of this whole House, might be
forthwith sent for by the Serjeant to answer his
said contempt; It was Ordered, That the Serjeant of this House do forthwith go to the said
Common Pleas Bar, and charge the said Mr. Recorder to make his present repair unto this House
for his attendance, but not to answer to any
contempt.
The Bill touching the Water-Bailiff was read
the first time.
Five other Bills of no great moment had each
of them their last reading, and were sent up to
the Lords by Mr. Treasurer and others; of which
the last was the Bill of Explanation and Addition
unto the former Statute for maintenance of Rochester Bridge.
Mr. Anthony Kirle was brought to the Bar by
the Serjeant of this House, and charged by Mr.
Speaker in the Name of this whole House with a
Contempt to this House, for that he had served
Alban Stepneth Esquire, being a Member of this
House (returned into the same a Burgess for the
Town of Haverford West) with a Subpæna out
of the Star-Chamber in the Parliament time, and
within the Palace of Westminster, as the said Mr.
Stepneth was coming to this House to give his
attendance there, and further afterwards procucured an Attachment out of the said Court against him, to the great hinderance and impediment of the said Mr. Stepneth his service and attendance in this House, and also to his great cost
and charge. To which he answered, True it
was he served a Subpæna upon the said Mr. Stepneth in a Cause of Suit, not then knowing him to
be a Member of this House, and afterwards understanding that the said Mr. Stepneth made default
of his appearance upon the said Subpæna, and
that four or five days after the return of the
Writ he made an Affidavit in the said Court of
the serving of the said Subpæna, and so obtained
an Attachment against the said Mr. Stepneth; at
which time he was told by one of the Attornies
of that Court, that the said Mr. Stepneth was a
Member of this House; alledging that before
that time he knew him not to be of this House,
and did then also forbear to cause the said Attachment to be executed upon him: In doing
whereof if he have given cause of offence or contempt unto this House, as he had done the same
ignorantly, so did he (he said) humbly submit
himself therein to the good and favourable Consideration of this House. Which done, he was
sequestred out of the House.
And then after sundry Motions had in the
same matter, and by some of which it appeared
that the said Mr. Stepneth had with payment of
Money to Mr. Kirle's Attorney redeemed his liberty from being arrested by the said Attachment; It was at last resolved by this House,
That the said Mr. Kirle had committed a great
contempt to this whole House, and the Liberties
and Priviledges of the same, both in serving the
said Subpæna upon the said Mr. Stepneth, and also
in procuring the said Attachment against him,
and in all the residue of the parts of the said Suit
from the time of serving the said Subpæna thitherto. And thereupon ordered and adjudged
by this House, That the said Anthony Kirle shall
for his said contempt be committed Prisoner to
the Serjeants Ward and Custody, there to remain during the pleasure of this House, and shall
also satisfie and pay unto the said Mr. Stepneth as
well all such his Costs and Charges and Expences
by him expended in and about the same Suit as
shall be set down and agreed upon by Mr. Morrice and Mr. Miles Sandes, who were for that
purpose appointed by this House to confer with
the said Mr. Stepneth, and to examine those
Charges; as also all other Charges which the
said Mr. Stepneth hath been at, or defrayed unto
the said Serjeant in or about the arresting which
should have been executed upon him by virtue
of the foresaid Attachment out of the said StarChamber at the Suit of the said Mr. Kirle.
After which the said Mr. Anthony Kirle was
brought again to the Bar, and there kneeling
upon his knees, was asked by Mr. Speaker, whether he had received of Mr. Stepneth any Money
for the Charges of the said Attachment? He answered he had not, but his Attorney had. And
being asked, whether his Attorney did receive it
to his use or no? He said his Attorney did allow
it to him in the payment for the Copy of Mr.
Stepneth his Answer. And then Mr. Speaker
pronounced unto him the said Judgment in form
aforesaid in the Name of this whole House. After
the pronouncing whereof he humbly besought
this House of their favourable goodness to grant
him liberty to follow some Causes of his own,
and also some other of his Clients; but it was denied him, and so he was had away by the Serjeant.
And after his departure upon some motions, that
Consideration might be had of his Clients Causes,
the Term now continuing but one day more, it
was referred to Mr. Speaker's liberty to let him
follow his own Causes and his Clients with his
Keeper attending upon him. Vide principium
hujus materiæ die præcedente, & vide consimilem
casum in Parliamento de Anno 31 Reginæ Eliz.
on Friday the 12th day of February.
On Friday the 12th day of February five Bills
were had in agitation in the House, whereof
two concerning the Government of the City of
Westminster and the assurance of Sir Thomas Lucy
were brought into the House by the several Committees of them with Proviso's and Amendments
added unto them, which they did humbly offer
to the Consideration of the House; and the other three of no great moment had two of them
one reading apiece, and the third two readings,
which was the Bill for the good Government of
the City of Westminster, viz. the body of the
Bill had one reading, and the Amendments two,
and then it was ordered to be ingrossed upon the
Question.
One of the said three Bills last mentioned to
have been read was a new Bill brought into the
House for the true answering of the Debts of
Edward Fisher Esquire; after the first reading
whereof upon a Motion made concerning it, it
was Ordered, that the said Edward Fisher should
be sent to by the Serjeant of this House to warn
him to be in this House himself upon Monday
next, if it please him to procure himself a Writ
for that purpose, or else that his Councel be then
there for him to shew cause, if he have any, why
this House should not proceed to the expediting
and passing of the same. Vide plus de ista materia on Monday the 15th day of this instant February following.
On Saturday the 13th day of February, the
Bill touching the breadth of Woollen-Cloths was
upon the second reading committed unto Mr.
Vice-Chamberlain, Mr. Treasurer, Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir Thomas Heneage, Sir
John Peeter and others, and the Bill was delivered to Mr. Treasurer, who with the rest was appointed to meet on Monday next in the Afternoon in the Parliament Chamber or Pension
Chamber of the Middle-Temple.
Mr Recorder of London, Mr Morrice and Mr
Penruddock, were appointed to hear and examine the State and manner of the serving of Process upon any the Members of this House from
time to time during this Session as occasion thereof shall fall out, and after such information and
intelligences thereof then further to impart the
same to this House as oc´casion shall serve for further resolution.
Three Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the second being
the Bill for Explanation of the Statute of 21 H.
8. touching Pluralities of Benefices, &c. was upon the second reading committed unto Sir Drew
Drewry, Sir Robert Germin, Sir Richard Knightley, Mr Recorder of London and others, who
were appointed to meet upon Tuesday next in the
Afternoon in the Middle-Temple Hall.
A Proviso to the Bill concerning certain assurances of Sir Thomas Lucy and others, was twice
read and Ordered to be ingrossed.
Mr Morrice, Mr Atkins and Mr Alford, were
added to the former Committees to meet this Afternoon in the Middle-Temple Hall to hear Mr
Arnold and his Councel touching the said Bill
and Proviso.
The Amendments in the Bill against GlassHouses and Glass-making was twice read and Ordered to be (with the Bill) ingrossed.
On Monday the 15th day of February, Mr
William Stoughton offered unto this House a certain supplication in Parchment of certain abuses
in the Ministry within the County of Leicester,
and also a note of certain Articles in Paper concerning some disorders in the Bishops Ministry;
and also Mr Edward Lewkenor offered another
Petition in Parchment touching the abuses in the
Ministry in the behalf of the Inhabitants in the
East part of the County of Sussex. All which by
Order of the House were read. And then also
was read another like Petition in Paper for the
Inhabitants of the Parish of Holkstone in the
County of Kent, which was before the last Adjournment of this Court offered unto this House
by Mr John Moore; and after sundry Speeches
and Motions had touching the said Petitions, Mr
Chancellor of the Exchequer putting the House
in mind of the like Petitions in effect offered unto this House in the sitting before the last Adjournment, and imparted to the Lords by a Committee of this House, with humble Suit unto
their Lordships to be a mean therein to her Majesty, desired them that they would now forbear any further to deal with these Petitions, until this House have first received Answer from
the Lords of the said others; alledging further,
that he had very lately put some of their Lordships in remembrance thereof on the behalf of
this House; and that he was Answered, we
should hear from their Lordships to Morrow
next touching their Answer of the same Petitions.
Whereupon it was then thought good by this
whole House to except their Lordships said Answer therein till then accordingly. Vide concerning Petitions on Thursday the 25th day of February ensuing.
The Committees in the Bills for Actions upon
the Case for perfecting of Assurances, and for
Fines and Recoveries in the twelve Shires of
Wales, were appointed to meet to Morrow in the
Afternoon in Lincolns-Inn Hall.
Upon a Motion made by Mr Edward Lewkenor,
that some of this House may be appointed to
draw a Form of Prayer and Thanksgiving to be
used in this House for the great benefits and blessings of God bestowed upon this whole Realm
in her Majesty, and for the long continuance of
the same, especially in this time of Consultation
this day appointed to be had and prosecuted in
making of Laws for the preservation and safety
of her Majesties most Royal Person; It was agreed, That the said Mr. Lewkenor himself should
take such of this House to him as he should think
good, and devise and digest the same form of
prayer and thanksgiving accordingly.
The Master of the Rolls and the Lord Chief
Baron did bring word from the Lords, that their
Lordships do desire present Conference with
some of this House in a matter of great importance, and that their Lordships have appointed
of themselves seventeen. Whereupon were Chosen presently thirty four of this House, viz. Mr
Treasurer, Mr Comptroller, Mr Chancellor of
the Exchequer, the Lord Russell, Sir Thomas Heneage, Mr Sollicitor, Mr Beale, Mr Wolley, Sir
Robert Germin, Sir John Higham, Mr Doctor
James, Sir Richard Knightley, Sir George Carey,
Mr Edward Lewkenor, Sir Henry Cock, Sir William Moore, Mr Edward Barker, Mr Brunker the
Master of the Requests, Mr George Greenfield,
Sir Edward Dymock, Mr Skinner, Mr Atturney
of the Wards, Sir William Mallory, Mr Strickland, Mr David Williams, Mr Harris, Mr Henry
Barkley, Sir Thomas Shirley, Mr Robert Bowes,
Mr Recorder of London, Mr Morrice, Mr William Knolles, Mr Faunshaw, Sir Drew Drury, Mr
Oughtred, Mr George Digby, and Mr. Cheek, who
repaired then presently to the Lords accordingly.
Mr. Yelverton being of the Learned Councel of
one of the Creditors of Edward Fisher Esquire,
and coming into this House for him, and also
some of the Creditors of the said Edward Fisher
being likewise present in this House at the Bar,
the Bill had in their presence its second reading;
and further Order was then given that they be
here again to Morrow in the Morning at the first
sitting of this Court. Vide concerning this matter on Monday the 22th day of February ensuing.
Three Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the last being the
Bill concerning the assurances of Sir Thomas
Lucie and others (the Proviso of it having been
once read) had it self the third reading, and
passed upon the question with the foresaid
Proviso.
The last former Committees returning from
the Lords, Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer one
of the said Committees declared unto the House,
that they attended the Lords in the Upper House
according to the direction of this House to them
in that behalf given, and that they found the
Lords not to want many of that number which
was signified unto this House from them; and
withal that there were likewise almost as many of
the Committees of this House as were by this
House appointed for that purpose. And that
the Lord Treasurer being the chiefest of the Committees of the Lords, shewed unto the said Committees of this House, that their Lordships of the
Upper House being of such quality and calling
as they are known to be, are one Member of the
Parliament; And also that the Knights, Citizens
and Burgesses of this House representing the
whole Commons of this Realm are also another
Member of the same Parliament, and her Majesty
the Head; And that of these three Estates doth
consist the whole Body of the Parliament able to
make Laws. And that none of the said two Houses without the other can in any wise make Laws.
And withal, that therefore of ancient Courtesie
and Custom, both the same Houses have used
mutual Conference each with other in matters
of doubt happening amongst them from time to
time in making and establishing of Laws, and
that yet notwithstanding their Lordships have
heard by Speeches abroad, not out of this House
(for they are not to take knowledge of any
thing in this House) that a Bill to provide remedy against fraudulent Conveyances passed
with their Lordships, and lately sent down from
them to this House, was upon a second reading
thereof in this House denied to receive a Committee, whereof their Lordships do greatly marvail and think it very strange not having known
the like course used in this House before, especially the Bill being so good and necessary for the
Common-Wealth, and so specially recommended
from their Lordships to this House, both at the
first sending down thereof to this House, and
sithence. And being (as their Lordships are informed) upon the reading thereof the first time
nothing spoken unto at all, and now lately at
the second reading thereof argued unto both
with the Bill and against the Bill by sundry on
both sides learned in the Laws and of good account and discretion otherwise, which doth
greatly import the Bill very much to deserve Conference without all contradiction. And further
declaring that the said Bill was very well favoured and liked of her Majesty, yea in so much that
her Highness used to call it her own Bill, that it
was framed and drawn by her Highness learned
Councel, very maturely and advisedly digested
in the Upper House with the privity and assistance of the Judges there attending, considered
of also in a Committee amongst their Lordships
themselves, and with very great deliberation passed also with them, and as before specially recommended unto this House from them; moved
in Conclusion, that this House would have such
further consideration for proceeding in some convenient course in the said Bill by Conference or
otherwise, as may in good discretion seem requisite. And not doubting, but as their Lordships
think many of this House have mistaken and misconceived some part of the said Bill, so their
Lordships upon Conference had (they doubt not)
will resolve and satisfie them in the same. And
therefore they desire to be advertised of the
Answer of this House therein as soon as may
be conveniently. Vide de ista materia in die
sequenti.
On Tuesday the 16th day of February a Motion
was made for Mr. Kirles releasment from his Imprisonment, and thereupon he was brought into
this House, and kneeling upon his Knees, making very humble submission unto this House
and acknowledging his fault, alledging it also to
have proceeded of ignorance and not of wilfulness, and likewise having paid to the Serjeant of
this House, to Mr Stepneth's use, three pound six
shillings eight pence, set down by Mr Morrice and
Mr Sands according to the former Order of this
House, was discharged paying his Fees, after he
had first taken the Oath of Supremacy. Vide concerning this matter on Wednesday the 10th day,
and on Thursday the 11th day of this instant February foregoing.
Upon a Motion made by Mr Doctor James,
that a Member of this House yesterday having
given great offence unto this whole House in
charging this whole House generally with matter
of accusation in those things which they do offer
and prefer unto this House only by way of Petitions and Motions for redress of certain griefs in
dutiful and convenient manner, may not so go
away with those undecent forms of Speech,
but be further called to Question for the
same.
Mr Atkins was thereupon Licensed by the
House to interpret his said Speeches in his place
without being Commanded to the Bar, who in
very humble sort declared his intention, was
very sorry for his over-sight, craved their good
opinions and submitted himself to the good satisfaction of this House.
Five Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the last being against Moor-burning, did upon the third reading
pass the House, and was with two more of the
said Bills, and two other Bills formerly passed
(the one for confirmation of her Majesties Letters Patents granted to the Queens Colledge in
Oxford) sent up unto the Lords by Mr. Treasurer and others, with Commission also given them
to attend their Lordships Answer to this House
for the Petitions of this House exhibited unto
them.
Mr. Nicholas Hare being one of the Committees in the Bill for repairing and amending of the
Sea-Banks and Sea-Works upon the Sea-Coasts
in the County of Norfolk brought in the old Bill,
and also a new Bill, which new Bill had its first
reading.
Mr. Treasurer and the residue returning from
the Lords, Mr. Treasurer declared, That according to the appointment of this House they had
moved the Lords touching their Lordships Answer to the Petitions of this House, and that
thereupon their Lordships sequestring the Committees of this House in the outer Chamber, did
soon after send them word by the Master of the
Rolls and the Lord Chief Baron, That when their
Lordships shall first have received an Answer
from this House unto them touching their Motion yesterday of the Consideration of this House
to be had touching the Bill against fraudulent
Conveyances, their Lordships would then make
Answer unto this House of the said Petitions; and
willed further to know the Answer of this House
touching the said Bill to morrow in the morning.
Vide concerning this business on Thursday the 25th
day of this instant February following.
After the foresaid Speech of Mr. Treasurer Sir
Walter Mildmay Chancellor of the Exchequer
stood up, and having recited the summ of it, did
further put the House in mind, that the Lords
did look for Answer touching the said Bill to
morrow, and therefore advising to consider of
it presently, shewed for his part his opinion touching the state of the said Bill in sort as it is
now, to be no further by this House dealt in but
one of these two ways, to wit, either at the next
reading thereof, being the third time of reading
it, without any manner of addition or other alteration whatsoever to put it to the question for
passing, or else leaving it as it now is, to begin
a new Bill in this House for the purpose of redress against frauds in such manner as this House
should think fittest. And so after sundry other
Speeches and Arguments had in the said matter,
the time being very far spent, it was deferred to
be further considered of and spoken to again to
morrow. Vide touching this business on the day
immediately foregoing.
For that the Warden of the Fleet attending
at the door of this House with Edward Fisher
Esquire cannot now for lack of time bring in the
said Fisher to make his appearance, further day
was given him to be here again to morrow in
the morning. Vide concerning this business on
Monday the 22th day of this instant February
ensuing.
On Wednesday the 17th day of February the
Committees in the Bill concerning Staple Fish
were appointed to meet in the open ExchequerCourt at two of the Clock this Afternoon.
The Committees also for Shoomakers and Curriers and Clothiers were appointed to meet in the
Middle Temple Hall this Afternoon.
Mr. Morrice brought in the old Bill against
vicious life and idleness, and brought in two
new Bills made and drawn out of some of the
Contents of the old.
The Committees in the Bill for breadth of
Clothes were appointed to meet this Afternoon
in the Exchequer-Chamber.
Three Bills also of no great moment had each
of them one reading; of which the last being
the Bill for the furtherance of Justice, was upon
the second reading ordered to be ingrossed.
The Warden of the Fleet brought Edward
Fisher Esquire to the Bar and some of the Creditors, with Mr. Yelverton being of Counsel with
the Creditors; the said Edward Fisher was heard
at large what he could say against the Bill exhibited to this House for order of payment of his
Creditors; and at last being sequestred out of
the House two several times, while the house
did consider of sundry his frivolous requests
made unto them, and of his dilatory devices and
shifting answers, did at the last give his full and
plain consent unto this house, as well of his instance and request unto this house mentioned
in the Preamble of the said Bill for passing of
the same, as also any thing this house should
think good in their own discretions to add in the
said Bill for the passing of the same, to authorize
the Commissioners to deal also with the Bishop
of Coventry and Litchfield for Composition of a
Rent-charge of 82 l. 10 s. distrainable upon all
the Lands of the said Edward Fisher. The said
Warden of the Fleet was then commanded to
take away the said Edward Fisher, and Mr. Sands
and Mr. Morrice were appointed to amend the
said Bill in that part against to morrow, and the
Bill to be ingrossed. Vide concerning this matter on Monday the 22th day of February ensuing.
On Thursday the 18th day of February five Bills
of no great moment had each of them one reading; of which the first being a Bill for preiervation of the Bridges in the Town of Redding, was
read the first time.
Sir William Moore, one of the Committees in
the Bill against dying with Sumach, brought in
the same Bill again as a frivolous Bill utterly unfit
to remain in this house.
Sir Edward Dymock, one of the Committees
in the Bill for bringing in of Staple Fish, Ling,
and Herings. brought in the old Bill and also
a new Bill agreed upon and made by the said
Committees.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer taking occasion to put this house in remembrance of some
consideration to be had by this house of the Bill
to provide remedy against fraudulent Conveyances passed with the Lords and brought from them
to this House, did the last day saving one treat
and debate till the rising of the same House, without any resolution therein then had; and shewing his own opinion therein divided his Speech
into three parts, first to consider what this House
hath already done touching the said Bill, then
what this House may do in the same, and lastly
what is most convenient for this House to do
further in the same. Shewing that what is done
already in the said Bill in this House, is this (as he
taketh it) viz. That the Bill first passing the
Lords and brought down hither was twice orderly read in this House, and upon the second
reading thereof was likewise orderly argued unto
in this House both against the Bill and with the
Bill, very gravely and learnedly on both sides
for to have the same Bill committed to further
consideration, which for his part he could well
have liked it should have so been; yet because
this House thought good it should not be committed, and denied to have it committed, he
thinks this House hath done therein very orderly
without any Errour, because it seemed good to
this House so to do. And that albeit many times
Committings and Conferences be very necessary
between both the Houses, yet it is at the liberty
of each of the same Houses whether they will
admit any such or no, and so no error in that
which is done. And that the said Bill as it now
standeth is a Bill that may have a third reading
(in this House as he thinketh) if this House shall
so thing good. And is of mind that this House
may ...... Here it seemeth Mr Fulk Onslow at
this time Clerk of the House of Commons, intending to supply the residue of this said Speech
and of other Arguments and Disputations had
and passed in this matter, did leave a blank of
near upon a side and a half; but whether through
negligence or forgetfulness this (as divers other
places) was never perfected.
But what the resolution of the House at the
end of the said Arguments was, may probably
be gathered out of other Passages this very day
concerning the same business, viz. That they
would justifie their former Proceedings in not
committing the said Bill concerning fraudulent
Conveyances sent down unto them from the
Lords to have been justly, discreetly and orderly
resolved on in the House, where the manner and
form of the said Bill was and is utterly disliked,
and that therefore the said House of Commons
would speedily frame a new Bill to the same
effect.
Vide concerning this business on Monday the
15th day and on Tuesday the 16th day of this instant February foregoing.
Mr Serjeant Rodes and Mr Doctor Carey did
bring down from the Lords to the House of Commons three Bills; of which one was concerning
the Lord Dacres and the Lord Norris, the second concerning the relief of the Hospital of
Eastbridge in Canterbury, and the third concerning the Explanation of a former Statute touching Tellors and Receivors made Anno 13 Reginæ
Eliz. of which said three Bills the Original Journal-Book of the Upper House mentioneth only
the two latter to have been sent down as aforesaid, and as it seemeth omitted the first.
The foresaid Mr Serjeant Rodes and Mr Doctor Carey brought also a Message from the Lords
for present Conference with some of the House
of Commons touching the Bill of Jesuits lately
passed the said House. Whereupon these Committees following were appointed to repair presently unto their Lordships accordingly, viz. Mr.
Comptroller, Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, Mr Treasurer of the Chamber, Mr. Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Mr Sollicitor, Sir Philip Sidney, Mr
Recorder of London, Mr Beale, Mr Topclysse, Sir
John Higham, Mr Howard, Mr Morrice, Sir William Herbert, Sir Henry Nevill, Sir William
Moore, Mr Fulk Grevill, Mr Wolley and Mr
Sands.
And before the going of the said Committees
it was resolved by this House, that they should
further signifie unto their Lordships that this
House hath resolved, that as touching the late
Proceeding of this House in the Bill to provide
remedy against fraudulent Conveyances sent unto this House from their Lordships, This House
hath in all parts and points of their dealing therein proceeded discreetly, gravely and orderly, according to the Liberties of this House, without
any errors of this House, or cause of offence by
them given to their Lordships. And that as this
House very well liketh that fraud be met with
and prevented, though not in such manner and
form as in the said Bill was devised; so they do
purpose to frame a Bill in this House for the same
effect in such fort as to this House shall be thought
good. And lastly should move their Lordships
for Answer of the Petitions, if it might so please
their Lordships. Vide concerning these Petitions
on Thursday the second day of this instant February ensuing.
Upon a Motion made by Mr Diggs that Doctor Parry a late unworthy Member of this
House and now Prisoner in the Tower, in his
late submission to this House upon his former
contempts was reconciled, with condition (at
his now request) of his good behaviour afterwards, and hath sithence so misbehaved himself
as deserveth his said Imprisonment in the Tower;
It was resolved by this House, that he be disabled
to be any longer a Member of this House, that
a Warrant be made to the Clerk of the Crown
Office for a Writ to be directed to the Sheriff of
Kent for chusing and returning into this present
Parliament another Burgess for the Borough of
Queenborough, in lieu and stead of the said Doctor
Parry. Which promise of his future amendment
Vide on Friday the 18th day of December foregoing.
Five Bills of no great momemt had each of
them one reading; of which the second being
the Bill of Plymouth-Haven was upon the second
reading committed again to the former Committees, and Mr Grafion was added unto them, and
the Bill was delivered to Mr Wroth, who with
the rest was appointed to meet in the MiddleTemple, Hall to morrow in the afternoon.
The Committees returning from the Lords,
Mr Vice-Chamberlain ...... here it seemeth that
Mr Fulk Onslow at this time Clerk of the House
of Commons intending to supply the residue of
this speech, did leave a blank of two half sides
at the least for that purpose, but very negligently omitting to supply it, hath left those two
great businesses of the Petitions and the not committing of the said Bill of fraudulent Conveyances upon the second reading sent down from
the Lords to the House of Commons, (of which
said matters see before in the passages of this
very day) altogether naked and undetermined,
which might else have served for great use and
good precedent for the priviledges of the said
House.
But yet it may be probably conjectured out
of the ensuing passages of some other days,
what the Lords did answer to these foresaid Petitions, of which said answer Mr Vice-Chamberlain
made report, viz. That for the Petitions in which
the House of Commons desired their Lordships
to joyn with them, they would yet defer their
resolution till a further time; And for the committing of their said Bill concerning fraudulent
Conveyances sent down from them upon the second reading thereof, they did not altogether
disallow the defence and justification which the
said House of Commons had made for and concerning their proceeding therein by the said
Committees; As also that they should frame a
new Bill to the same purpose. And it is most
likely that their Lordships did well approve of
that Message sent by the foresaid Committees
concerning the framing of a new Bill for the prevention of the foresaid frauds, because immediately upon Mr Vice-Chamberlain's Speech ended,
a special Committee was appointed by the House
upon Mr Speakers motion for that purpose,
prout sequitur.
Mr. Speaker, after Mr. Vice-Chamberlain had
(as it seemeth) ended his Speech, moved the House
to appoint a Committee for the framing of a new
Bill against fraudulent Conveyances. Whereupon the said House named these following, viz.
all the Privy Council, Mr. Cradock, Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Sands, Mr. Attorney of the Court of
Wards, Mr. Morrice, Mr. Owen, Mr. Diggs,
Mr. Harris, Mr. Faunshaw, Mr. Beamond and Mr.
Recorder of London. The old Bill that came
from the Lords was delivered to Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, and all these were appointed to meet
to morrow in the afternoon in the Exchequer
Chamber to draw a Bill to the same purpose instead of the said former Bill.
Mr. Sollicitor one of the Committees in the
Bill for reformation of Errors in the twelve Shires
of Wales brought in the old Bill and also a new
Bill for that purpose.
Upon a motion for reading of the Bill of
Tythes, Mr Speaker shewed forth the Bill brought
into the House in so many several pieces, some
written on both sides of the paper and so sowed
one upon another in the midst of some of the
leaves that it cannot be read or known how to
be read, or taken in the right places for the reading. Whereupon it was again to be better written, and ordered that every part thereof should
be rightly placed by the Committees.
On Friday the 19th day of February six Bills
of no great moment had each of them one reading; of which one of them being a new Bill for
the bringing in of Staple Fish and Herring had
its first reading; and another being the sixth and
last (viz.) for the continuance and explanation
of certatin Statutes had its first reading, and a
Proviso offered to the same Bill was once read,
and another Proviso also offered and the same
once read, and a saving also offered to the same
was once read. Quod nota.
Upon a motion read by Mr George Moore touching some provision to be made against Libellers,
these Committees following were appointed to
consider thereof, (viz.) Mr George, Moore, Mr
Graston, Mr Thomson, Mr Skinner, Mr Edmund
Saunders, Mr Cradock, Mr Crew, Mr Nicholas
Hare and Mr John Hare, and to meet to morrow
in the Afternoon in the Middle-Temple-Hall for
that purpose.
An addition to the Bill for the true answering
of the debts of Edward Fisher Esquire made by
order of this House by certain Committees appointed for the same, was twice read and ordered to be ingrossed. Vide concerning this matter
on Munday the 22th day of this February ensuing.
On Saturday the 20th day of February, Three
Bills of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the second being the Bill for
the maintenance of the Hospital of Eastbridge in
Canterbury was upon the second reading committed unto Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr
Recorder of London, Mr Morrice and others,
and the Bill was delivered to the said Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, who with the rest was
appointed to meet on Tuesday next being the
23th day of this instant February ensuing, in the
Exchequer Chamber in the Afternoon.
The Bill for the true payment of Tythes was
brought in again by Mr Sands one of the Committees better and more plainly reformed and
amended than it was last delivered in by Sir John
Peter.
The Bill exhibited by the Curriers which was
not yet read, was appointed to be delivered to
the former Committees, and they then to resolve
whether the same Bill shall be read in this House
or no, who were appointed to meet on Monday
next in the Afternoon in the Inner-Temple Hall.
The Bill for Plymouth-Haven was brought in
again with a Proviso.
Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer and others,
having presently been in the Committee Chamber of this House to consider of the State of the
Bill touching the Sabbath day, shewed, that by
the precedents of this House, this House may
add to the Lords former additions to the said Bill;
and further also, that this House may without
all doubt make a Proviso to the same Bill if this
House shall so think good. But having recited
two special Precedents of this House meeting
with the very points of this Bill, wisheth therefore in respect of the maintenance and preservation of the liberties of this House, that this
House do in all convenient and seemly sort stand
to the Liberty and Choice of this House to add
to their Lordships additions, and not otherwise
at all. Vide concerning this business on Wednesday the 17th day of March ensuing.
Three Bills of no great moment had each of
them one reading; of which the last being the
Bill for furtherance of Justice was read the third
time and passed upon the Question.
Two Bills of no great moment were sent down
from the Lords to the House of Commons by
Serjeant Rodes and Mr Powle; whereof one was
for establishing of a Jointure to the Countess of
Huntington.
On Munday the 22. day of February five Bills
of no great moment had each of them one reading; of which the last being the Bill for the true
payment of the debts of Edward Fisher Esq; was
read the third time and passed the House, and the
word or Figures xxviij. put instead of the word
or Figures xxiiij. in sundry places of the said
Bill, were read three times before the passing of
the same as aforesaid. Vide concerning this matter on Friday the 12th day, Munday the 15th
day, Tuesday the 16th day, Thursday the 18th
day, Friday the 19th day of this instant February foregoing.
This aforesaid Bill with two others of no great
moment that had formerly passed this House, were
sent up to the Lords by Mr Treasurer and others
the Committees for Conference touching the
Bill for better observation of the Sabbath day,
and the Committees also for the petitions, with
order from this House to move their Lordships
presently in both these Causes accordingly. Vide
concerning the Bill for the Sabbath on Wednesday the 17th day of March ensuing.
Mr Serjeant Rodes and Mr Doctor Ford did
before the sending up of the former Bills to their
Lordships bring down from them to the House
of Commons two Bills; the one touching the
disposing of Parsonages Impropriate before passed in this House with some amendments, and the
other for the preservation of Grain and Game.
Nota, That the Journal of the Upper House
agreeth with this Journal of the House of Commons, that the last of these two Bills concerning
the preservation of Grain and Game, was at this
time sent down from the Lords to the House of
Commons, but differeth in the form; which
Bill touching Parsonages Impropriate is there
set down to have been sent to the said House of
Commons on Saturday the 28th day of February; and at this time another Bill concerning
Moor-burning in the Counties of Northumberland, &c. to have been sent down with the foresaid Bill concerning Grain and Game, &c.
The Bill for confirmation of Errors in Fines
and Recoveries in the 12. shires of Wales was
read the second time.
The Bill concerning Insufficient Justices, Sheriffs, &c. in Wales was read the first time, and
committed to the former Committees in the last
former Bill, and Mr Recorder, Mr Attorney of
the Wards and Mr Harris were added unto
them, and the Bill was delivered to Mr Attorney,
who with the rest was appointed to meet this
Afternoon in Lincolns-Inn Hall.
Mr Treasurer and the residue returning from
the Lords, Mr Treasurer declared, that according
to the appointment of this House they have dealt
with the Lords both as touching the Bill for the
better observation of the Sabbath day, and also
for their Lordships answer to the Petitions; and
shewing unto their Lordships that by Warrant of
the Precedents of this House, this House might
very well make additions unto their Lordships
additions in the same Bill, wherewith (as he
thought) their Lordships seemed somewhat satisfied; so touching their Lordships answer to
the said Petitions he said, That it so much passed his Capacity to conceive and understand all
the effect of it, as that he would not undertake
upon him to make a report of it, but would leave
it to such other of the said Committees as could
both better remember it and deliver it.
Whereupon Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer
affirming Mr Treasurer his former speech touching their said proceedings for the said Bill of the
Sabbath, shewed further, that as concerning their
said motion for their Lordships answer to the
said Petitions, Their Lordships Sequestring the
Committees of this House into the outer Chamber, there came shortly after unto them the Lord
Treasurer and the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury; The said Lord Treasurer declaring first
unto them the answer of the Lords to the said
Petitions in general, and afterwards the said Lord
Archbishop shewing the same in particular having a certain note in his hand for his remembrance, but uttering much more in his Speech;
which he said was so long and consisted of so
many parts, as he thought for his own part he
could not sufficiently signifie unto this House:
And did therefore make a motion that those of
the Committees which were also then present
thereat, might meet this Afternoon in the Exchequer Chamber, and helping each other's memory set down the substance and effect of the
said answer in all the parts thereof as near as
they can; and so then afterwards to signifie the
same unto this House to morrow. Which was
thereupon so agreed and resolved accordingly.
Vide touching these Petitions on Thursday the
25th day of this instant February following.
The Bill concerning the Lord Dacres and the
Lord Norris was read the third time, and thereupon passed the House.
On Tuesday the 23. day of February Two Bills
of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the last being the Bill for the
true Answering of Tythes, &c. had its first
reading.
Upon a Motion begun by Sir Thomas Lucy and
continued by Sir Thomas Moore, that those of
this House which are of her Majesties PrivyCouncil may in the name of this whole House be
humble Suitors unto her Majesty, that for as
much as that villanous Traitor Parry was a Member of this House in the time of some of his most
horrible and traiterous Conspiracies and attempts
against her Majesties most Royal Person (whom
Almighty God long preserve) her Majesty would
vouchsafe to give Licence to this House, for that
many of this House are of the Fellowship of the
Association, to proceed to the devising and making of some Law for his Execution after his
Conviction, as may be thought fittest for his so
extraordinary and most horrible kind of Treason:
It was resolved that those of this House being of
her Majesties most honourable Privy-Council and
now present at this Motion, to wit Mr. Treasurer and Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, shall exhibite the
same humble Suit of this House unto her Majesty accordingly at their convenient opportunity.
A Proviso was added to the Bill for Plymouth-Haven, and was twice read and Ordered with
the Bill to be ingrossed.
Mr Cromwell was added to the former Committees for Priviledges, and touching serving of
Process upon the Members of this House and their
Servants.
Mr John North Knight for Cambridg shire, was
added to the former Committees for reviving of
Statutes, and the same Bill with the three Provisoes before read were again committed to the
same Committees and to the same Mr North, together with the Bill touching Cables, Halters and
Ropes.
Sir Edward Dymock being Sheriff of the County of Lincoln, was Licensed by this House to depart into the Country for the service of her Majesty in the charge of his said Office.
Nota, That Sir Edward Dymock here being
Sheriff of Lincolnshire was also a Member of the
House of Commons and continued in the service
of it without interruption or question a great
part of this Parliament, and now upon the Licence of this House departed into the Country
about some necessary occasions concerning his
said Office. Vide concerning this matter on Friday the 4th day of December foregoing.
A like Precedent also there was in Anno 31
Reginæ Eliz. on Friday the 21th day of February.
Quod vide.
The Bill for the Jointure of the Countess of
Huntingdon was twice read and passed upon the
Question.
The new Bills last passed were sent up to the
Lords by Mr Treasurer, Mr Vice-Chamberlain
and others, with Commission also to put their
Lordships in remembrance touching their search
for Precedents with the Clerk of the Upper
House alledged by the Committees of this House
for Warrant of this House in proceeding with
the Bill for the better observation of the Sabbath
day by additions of this House to be added unto their Lordships former Additions in the same
Bill. Vide concerning this matter on Thursday
the 25th day of this instant February ensuing.
It should seem (though it be not expresly set
down in the Original Journal-Book) that the
House did this day fall into consultation and consideration of all the dangers which were imminent over the Kingdom, of the means to prevent
them, and of the great expences her Majesty
had been at in the defence of her Dominions
and Allies fit to be supplied ; which is set down
at the end of this day in manner and form following.
The open dangers threatned to this Kingdom
are from Spain, the Pope and the holy League in
France; the secret from the Jesuits, that secretly
lurked here to stir up her Majesties Subjects of
the Roman Religion to all manner of Treason
and Rebellion: Both which dangers though the
time of them were a while intermitted in respect
of the Execution, yet the purpose was not,
which their late Conspiracies and attempts both
here and in Ireland did plainly show.
The means to prevent these dangers were to
suppress the spreading of Jesuits and the growing
of Popery, to exact such Oaths of the Papists as
had been already Ordained, to provide for the
preservation of her Majesties Person, to terrifie
Ireland, and to provide sufficient Forces at home
both by Land and Sea.
The great expence that her Majesty had been
at even since the last Parliament did appear
plainly in respect of divers places and Forts
which had been repaired, much Powder and Munition had been stored up, and her Navy also
since that time increased: besides many other extraordinary Charges and Expences which she had
been at in the assisting of her Allies and the preserving of Ireland, and that her Majesty did specially shun danger from Ireland, of which they
conceived this Proverb to be true, Look to Ireland if we will rest quiet in England. And therefore (it seemeth) some of the Privy-Council
did move to think of what supply were now fit
to be given to her Majesty towards the supporting and sustaining of all her said great Expences
and Charges.
On Wednesday the 24th day of February, Three
Bill of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the last being the Bill for imploying of Lands and Tenements given to the
maintenance of High-ways, Bridges, &c. was
read the second time, and committed unto Mr
Wroth, Mr. Sandes, Mr. Cradock and others, and
the Bill was delivered to Mr. Sands, who with
the rest was appointed to meet this Afternoon in
the Middle-Temple Hall.
Mr. John North and Mr. Heile were added to
the former Committees for continuance of Statutes; the Bill and Provisoes, and also the Bill
for Cables, Halters and Ropes were delivered to
Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, who with the rest was
to meet in the Exchequer Chamber this Afternoon.
Mr. Attorney of the Court of Wards, one of
the Committees in the Bill for Jonas Scot, brought
in the Bill again into the Court.
It seemeth that some of the Privy-Council or
others moved this day for consideration to be
had in what measure and manner they should
supply her Majesty by Subsidy; And it seemeth
that the House did thereupon further assent unto it. All which is very negligently omitted by
Mr. Fulk Onslow at this time Clerk of the House
of Commons; for there is only set down the
names of the Committees in manner and form
following, viz. All the Privy-Council being Members of this House, the Lord Russell, Sir Philip
Sidney, Sir Thomas Heneage, Mr. Sollicitor, Sir
William Moore, Sir Robert Germin, Sir George
Carie, Sir Henry Nevill, Mr. George Rotheram, Mr.
Sandes, Sir William Mohun, Sir Robert Bowes, Mr.
John North, Sir Walter Rawleigh, Mr. Trenchard,
Mr. Ralph Evers, Sir John Tracy, Mr. Bevill, Sir
Henry Cock, Sir Thomas Cecill. Sir Francis Hastings, Mr. Mollineux, Mr. Wroth, Mr. William
Herbert, Sir Thomas Manners, Sir Drew Drewry,
Mr. Digby, Mr. Edward Audeley, Mr. Leveson, Mr.
Attorney of the Wards, Mr. Henry Barkley, Sir
Thomas Shirley, Mr. Anthony Mildmay, Mr. Henry
Talbot, Mr. Russell, Sir Thomas Lucie, all the
Knights for Wales, Sir Nicholas Woodroofe, Mr.
Recorder, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Layer and Mr. Wolley, who were appointed to meet this Afternoon in the Exchequer Chamber for the Subsidy.
At the nominating of this Committee (as it
seemeth) the whole Treasons plotted between
Henry Nevill and Doctor Parry according to
their own Confessions were related, where these
fragmentary particulars only (through the Clerks
negligence) are set down to this or the like purpose following, viz.
That the said Doctor Parry having behaved
himself unreverently and disorderly in the House
of Commons, upon revealing his mind to her
Majesty which he denied to do there, had been
pardoned both by her Majesty and the House, as
see on Thursday the 17th day of December, and
on Friday the 18th day of the same Month, as
also on Thursday the 18th day, and on Tuesday
the 23th day of this instant February foregoing.
And since upon discovery of fouler matters had
been Imprisoned and disabled from being a Member of this House.
That the said Nevill and he had had divers
Conferences and Projects for the advancement of
the King of Spains Conquest of England, from
whose Wars the said Nevill having served in them
had lately returned poor into England.
That the said Parry and Nevill had amongst
other things Plotted to go into the North, there
to raise Rebellion or to take the Island in Kent,
or to sell Barwick, or lastly to Murther her Majesty.
That they had read together Doctor Allens
Seditious Book concerning the Deposition and
Murthering of Heretical Princes (as he styles
them.)
That they had sworn together mutual Secrecy, with divers other matters partly agreed
upon between the said Nevill and Parry in their
Consessions, and partly confessed by either of
them singly and deemed by the other.
To which purpose Sir Christopher Hatton Vice Chamberlain made a very exact and Elaborate
Speech, of which there are only some short heads
or notes set down in the Original Journal-Book,
much to the purpose following, viz.
That the said Nevill and Parry had resolved
either to Murther her Majesty in her Garden at
St James's, or else to set upon her whilst she
should be in her Coach in the Fields, each of
them having for their assistance five or six men
with Pistols.
That Nevill began first to be touched with
remorse of Conscience, and notwithstanding his
Oath of Secrecy did threaten Parry, that except
he would desist from his said intended Treason
he would reveal it.
That the said Nevill thereupon departing from
the said Parry, upon his next meeting again
with him continued with him in the same mind,
and still refused to join with him in the Execution of their former Complotted Treason, and
that shortly after Parries Commitment and Imprisonment he had discovered it.
That the said Parrey in the Year 1580. having
been Pardoned by the Queen after a Capital offence committed by him, departed with Licence
into France, where being reconciled to the Roman Church he travelled to Venice, and there
having been diversly and severally instructed and
incouraged by Benedict Palmes a Jesuit, by Campegio the Popes Nuntio there; and lastly again
afterwards at Paris in France, by one Morgan an
Agent of the Queen of Scots; here upon the Encouragement of Cardinal Como and the Pope himself, he returned into England with a mind full
of Treason and Disloyalty, with divers other
things in the like purpose, which are at large set
down in Annal. Regin. Eliz. conscript. à Guiliel.
Cambden Edit. Latinè Lugd. Bat. Anno Domini
1625. à pag. 391. ad pag. 395.
Vide concerning this matter on Thursday the
17th day, and on Friday the 18th day of December foregoing; as also on Thursday the 18th
day, and on Tuesday the 23th day of this instant
February last past.
On Thursday the 25th day of February, Three
Bills of no great moment had each of them one
reading ; of which the last being a Bill for repairing of Sea-Banks and Sea-Works, was upon
the second reading Ordered to be ingrossed.
The Articles for two Fifteenths and Tenths,
and one entire Subsidy granted to her Majesty,
were brought in by Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, and read in the House, and appointed
to be delivered by Mr Speaker to her Majesties
Learned Councel to draw the Bill for the
same.
Sir Francis Knolles Knight, Treasurer of her
Majesties Houshold, declared this day unto the
House their Lordships Answer touching the Petition so often before mentioned, in which the
House of Commons had desired their Lordships
to join with them.
But what these Petitions were, is by the negligence of Fulk Onslow Esquire, at this time Clerk
of the House of Commons wholly omitted, not
only here, but in all other places of this present
Journal where they are often before mentioned,
as may appear by the enumeration of the several
days proceeding that concern them at the end
of this Animadversion, although they might be
in part collected out of those fragmentary Answers (which are likewise very imperfectly set
down) which were reported by the foresaid Mr
Treasurer to have been delivered to the Committees of the House of Commons by the Archbishop of York, and are found in the said Original Journal Book it self. But in respect the matters contained in the said Petitions were of great
weight and well worthy to be left entire to Posterity (that so the zealous care of the Commons
at this time may not die in silence) I have caused them to be transcribed wholly and exactly in
this place of this present Journal out of a very
good Copy of them I had by me, by the help
whereof also the Archbishops Answer to all the
several Articles or Petitions aforesaid (which
were in number sixteen) may be the better understood. But before the inserting of the said
Petitions it shall not be amiss to make reference
unto the several days on which they were mentioned. Vide therefore on Monday the 14th day,
on Tuesday the 16th day, and on Monday the 21th
day of December foregoing; As also on Monday the 15th day, Tuesday the 16th, Thursday the
18th, and Monday the 22th, and now lastly on
this present Thursday the 25th day of this instant
February. And now follow the said Petitions
out of the foresaid Copy of them I had by
me, before which was prefixed this Title following.
The humble Petitions of the Commons of the Lower
House of Parliament to be offered to the consideration of the Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Temporal of the Higher House.
1. WHere by a Statute made the thirteenth
of her Majesties Reign it was Enacted, That none should be made a Minister unless
he be able to Answer and render to the Ordinary an account of his Faith in Latine, according to certain Articles set forth in a Synod holden Anno 1562. and mentioned in the said Statute, or have special gift and ability to be a
Preacher; It may please their honourable Lordships to consider whether it were meet to be Ordained, that so many as have been taken into the
Ministry since the making of this Statute, and
be not qualified according to the true meaning
and intent of the same, be within a competent
time Suspended from the Ministry and Execution
of any Function thereto appertaining, unless
they shall be found of that ability which the
Statute requireth.
2. That where in a Synod holden 1575. It
was provided that unlearned Ministers heretofore made by any Bishops should not from thenceforth be admitted to any Cure or special Function, it may also like their Lordships to advise
whether so many as have been since that time admitted contrary to the form of that Article, shall
be within a competent time removed; And that
for better Explanation of that Article such be
taken for unlearned, as be not qualified according to the Statute before-recited, and provision
made for the due Execution of that Article so
declared for ever hereafter.
3. Where also in that great and weighty
charge which in the Book containing the form of
Ordering of Priests established by the Statutes
of this Realm, is prescribed to be delivered to
all such as shall be received into the Ministry, they
are admonished that they be the Messengers, the
Watchmen, the Pastors and Stewards of the
Lord, to teach, to premonish, to feed and to
provide for the Lords Family, to seek for Christs
Sheep that be dispersed abroad, and for his Children which be in the midst of this naughty
World, to be saved through Christ for ever, with
other remembrances of other sundry weighty
parts of their Duties; It may like their Honours
to consider of some good Order to be given, that
none hereafter be admitted to the Ministry but
such as shall be sufficiently furnished with gifts to
perform so high and so earnest a Charge, and
that none be superficially allowed as persons qualified according to the Statute of the thirteenth
of her Majesties Reign before recited, but with
deliberate Examination of their knowledge and
exercise in the Holy Scriptures answerable to the
true meaning of that Statute.
4. Further, That for so much as it is prescribed in the form of Ordering Ministers, That the
Bishops with the Priests present shall lay their
hands severally upon the head of every one that
receiveth Order, without mention of any certain number of Priests that shall be present; and
that in a Statute made 21th of King H. the Eighth
is affirmed, that a Bishop must occupy six Chaplains at giving of Orders; it may be considered
whether it may be meet to provide that no Bishop shall Ordain any Minister of the word and
Sacraments, but with the assistance of six other
Ministers at the least, and thereto such only be
chosen as be of good report for their Life, learned, continually resiant upon their Benefices with
Cure, and which do give testimony of their Cure
for the Church of God, by their Charge. And
that the said Ministers do testifie their presence
at the admission of such Ministers by Subscription of their hands to some Act Importing the
same. And further that this admission be had
and done publickly and not in any private House
or Chappel.
5. And where admission of unnecessary multitudes to the Ministry at one time hath been an
occasion that the Church at this day is burthened with so great a number of unable Ministers,
It may like their Lordships to advise, whether
some provision might be made that none be admitted to be a Minister of the Word and Sacraments but in a benefice having Cure of Souls then
vacant in the Diocess of such a Bishop as is to
admit him, or to some place certain where such
Minister to be made is offered to be entertained
a preacher, or such Graduate as shall be at the
time of their admission into the Ministry placed
in some Fellowship or Scholarship within the Uniniversities, or at the least that trial be made of
this Order for such time as to their Honors wisdoms shall be thought convenient.
6. That it be likewise considered whether for
the better assurance that none creep into the
charge and Cures being men of corrupt life or not
known diligent, it might be provided that none
be Instituted or by Collation preferred to any
benefice with cure of Souls or received to be
Curate in any Charge, without some competent
notice before given to the Parishes where they
take charge, and some reasonable time allowed
wherein it may be lawful to such as can discover any defect in conversation of life in the
person who is to be so placed as is aforesaid, to
come and object the same.
7. That for the encouragement of many to
enter into the Ministry which are kept back by
some conditions of Oaths and Subscriptions whereof they make scruple, it may be considered whether this favour may be shewed them, that hereafter no Oath or subscription be tendred to any
that is to enter into the Ministry or to any benefice with Cure or to any place of preaching,
but such only as be expresly prescribed by the
Statutes of this Realm; Saving that it shall be
lawful for every Ordinary to try any Ministers
presented to any Benefice within his Diocess by
his Oath, whether he is to enter corruptly or
incorruptly into the same.
8. Whereas Sundry Ministers of this Realm diligent in their calling and of godly conversation
and life, have of late years been grieved with
Indictments in Temporal Courts and molested by
some exercising Ecclesiastical Jurisdictions for omitting small portions or some Ceremony prescribed in the Book of Common-Prayer, to the great
disgrace of their Ministry and imboldening of
men either hardly affected in religion or void of
all Zeal to the same, which also hath ministred
no small occasion of discouragement to the
forwardness of such as would otherwise enter
into the Ministry, some good and charitable
means may be by their honorable discretions
devised, that such Ministers as in the publick
service of the Church and in the administration
of the Sacraments do use the Book of Common
Prayer allowed by the Statutes of this Realm and
none other, be not from henceforth called in
question for omission or change of some Portion
or rite as is aforesaid, so there doings therein be
void of contempt.
9. That for as much as it is no small discouragement to many that they see such as be already in the Ministry openly disgraced by Officials
and Commissaries, who daily call them to their
Courts to answer complaints of their doctrin and
life or breach of Orders prescribed by the Ecclesiastical Laws and Statutes of this Realm, It may
please the reverend Fathers or Archbishops to
take to their own hearings, with such grave assistance as shall be thought meet, the causes of
Complaint made against any known Preacher
within their Diocess, and to proceed in the examination and Order thereof with as little discredit to the Person so complained of, without
great cause and in as charitable sort as may be,
restraining their said Officials and Commissaries
to deal in any Sort in those Causes.
10. It may also please the reverend Fathers to
extend their charitable favours to such known
godly and learned Preachers as have been Suspended or deprived for no publick offence of
life, but only for refusal to subscribe to such Articles as lately have been tendred in divers parts
of this Realm, or for such like things, that they
may be restored to their former Charges or places of Preaching, or at least set at liberty to
preach where they may be hereafter called.
11. Further, That it may please the reverend
Fathers aforesaid to forbear their examinations
ex officio mero of Godly and learned Preachers
not detected unto them of open Offence of life
or for publick maintaining of apparent error
in Doctrin, and only to deal with them for such
matters as shall be detected in them. And that
also her Majesties Commissioners for Causes Ecclesiastical be required, if it shall so seem good,
to forbear the like proceedings against such Preachers and not to call any of them out of the
Diocess where he dwelleth, except for some notable offence, for Reformation whereof their aid
shall be required by the Ordinary of the said
Preachers.
12. Item, For the better increase of knowledge
of such as shall be imployed in the Ministry, It
may please their Lordships to advise, whether it
may be permitted to the Ministers of every
Archdeaconry within every Diocess to have
some common exercise or conference amongst
themselves, to be limited and prescribed by their
Ordinary, both touching the moderation and also the time, places and manner of the same, so as
the moderators of these exercises be Preachers
resiant upon their benefices having Cure of Souls,
and known to bear good affection to the furtherance of such profit as may grow by the same
exercises.
13. Where complaint is made of the abuse of
Excommunication which is the highest censure
that Christ hath left to his Church, and many
are grieved as well in regard of the causes and
matters wherein it is at this day used, as of the
persons which have the common execution thereof, and no redress can be had herein but by Act
of Parliament, that some remedy may be thought
of in that behalf before the end of this Session,
and for reformation to be had herein, it may
please their Lordships to consider whether some
Bill might not be conveniently framed to this
effect, viz. That none having Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction shall in any matter already moved or
hereafter mentioned give or pronounce any Sentence of Excommunication, and that for the
continuance of any Person in Cases depending
before them, it shall be lawful to pronounce him
only contumax, and so to denounce him publickly; And if upon such Denuntiation, as in
Excommunications hath been used, the Party
shall not submit himself nor stand to abide such
Order as is to him assigned within forty days,
then it shall be lawful to signifie his contumacy
in such manner and sort, and to such Court as
heretofore hath been used for persons so long
standing Excommunicate, and that upon such
Certificate a Writ de contumace capiendo shall be
awarded of like force to all effects and purposes,
and with like Execution as the Writ de excommunicato capiendo is.
14. Nevertheless for as much as it seemeth not
meet that the Church should be left without this
censure of Excommunication, it may be provided, that for enormous crimes, as Incest, Adultery and such like, the same be Executed by the
Reverend Fathers the Bishops themselves, with
the assistance of grave Persons, or else by other
persons of Calling in the Church with like assistance, and with such other Considerations as upon deliberation shall be herein advised of, and
not by Chancellors, Commissaries or Officials as
hath been used.
15. Where Licences of non-Residence are offensive in the Church, and be occasion that a
great number of this Realm do want instruction,
and it seemeth that Cases certain wherein the
same may be allowed can hardly be devised, such
as shall be void of great inconvenience and danger; It may therefore be considered by their
Honourable Lordships, whether it were more
convenient or necessary that the use of them
were utterly removed out of the Church; and
so likewise of Pluralities.
16. But howsoever it shall be thought convenient to order these Faculties, yet for so much as
besides the known duty of a Minister prescribed
by the word of God, her Majesties Injunctions
do require in every Curate a further quality of
learning than ability to read only, as may be gathered by the forty third Article, and by other
Charges imposed upon him to teach the Principles of Religion as is set down in the forty fourth
Article; and sith also that no faculty of plurality or non-residence but with condition to see
the Cure from which he is absent sufficiently served; May it please their Lordships to consider,
whether it were expedient to provide, that none
now having Licence of non-residence, either by
Law or by Faculties, shall hereafter be permitted
to enjoy the benefit of such Licence, except he
depute an able and sufficient Preacher to serve
the Cure, and that no Curate by him placed be
suffered to continue in his service of that Cure
except he be of sufficient ability to Preach, and
doth Weekly teach that Congregation, and perform the other Duties of instructing the Youth
in the Catechism prescribed by her Majesties Injunctions.
These Petitions being thus transcribed out of
the before-mentioned Copy of them I had by
me, now follow the Answers of the Lord Treasurer and the Archbishop of York out of the Original Journal-Book of the House of Commons,
as they were reported this instant Thursday Febr.
25. by Sir Francis Knolles Knight, Treasurer of
her Majesties Houshold to the said House; which
being imperfect in themselves I have caused to be
a little altered and enlarged: whereby, as also
by casting an Eye back to the several Petitions
according to the several numbers or figures by
which they relate each to other, they may the
more fully be understood.
The Answer now which their Lordships had
given unto the Committees of the House of Commons being delivered unto them by the Lord
Treasurer and the Archbishop of York, was related unto the said House by Mr Treasurer one
of the Committees, and is set down in the Original Journal-Book of the House of Commons in
this (or rather a more imperfect) manner and
form following.
The Lord Treasurer in general made Answer,
That the Lords did conceive many of those Articles which the House of Commons had proposed
unto them, to be unnecessary, and that others
of them were already provided for, and that
the Uniformity of Common-Prayer had been
established by Parliament.
The Archbishop of York made an Answer more
at large to all those several Articles which the
House of Commons had proposed to their Lordships.
To the two first Articles he said, He conceived
them not fit to be allowed of, because divers
qualified persons were dispensed withal by Law.
Secondly, That it was against the Rule of Charity to suppose that those who were non-resident
had not some lawful avocation. Thirdly, That
where Parishes had not sufficient Preaching Ministers, Divine Service and Godly Homilies were
for the most part read; yet he promised that concerning non-residency it should be holpen and
redressed as soon as might be.
The third Article he confessed to be very necessary.
The fourth Article he utterly disallowed.
The fifth Article tending to the avoiding of
Ministerium vagum, he allowed; yet said he it
was sufficiently provided for already, saving he
thought it might stretch too far, viz. to Deans, & c.
The sixth Article he utterly disallowed, which
favoured of popularity and might raise many
Controversies and Dissensions.
The Seventh Article he utterly misliked, alledging, that the Bishops themselves were not
discharged from the taking of that Oath; and
for subscription, he said he doubted not but that
it was lawful, and that it might prove the
Cause of much order and quietness in the
Church.
The Eighth and Ninth Articles he utterly disallowed, as freeing them from Jurisdi(?)tion Temporal, and from the Bishops and all ...... But
what should here follow is left imperfect through
the great negligence of Fulk Onslow Esquire, at
this time Clerk of the House of Commons, in the
Original Journal-Book of the same House; and
yet it may seem that here should these words follow, viz...... their Ministers, after these words,
viz. from the Bishops and all....... And what
these two Articles concerned, may easily be seen
by casting an Eye back to the Petitions foregoing, n. 8. & n. 9.
The Tenth Article he said he could not but
dislike, because deprivation was often necessarily
used in terrorem, and that the party so deprived
might upon his Submission (as in the Case of
Excommunication) be received into favour.
The Eleventh Article he misliked.
The Twelfth Article he said that himself (in
the name of their Lordships whom in all that he
had before said he had but personated) did think
it necessary, and would take Order for such Exrecises as the............... But what should
here follow is most negligently omitted by the
Clerk of the House of Commons, yet it may be
gathered by this Article n. 12. foregoing, that it
was required that the exercises of private Conferences and Fasting might be more frequently enjoyed.
The Thirteenth and Fourteenth Articles he
confessed to require no more than seemed reasonable; yet being more narrowly searched into, would breed much inconvenience: for if Excommunication shall not be allowed upon Contumacy and such other Delinquencies, though
small in themselves, then must there be some new
censure brought into the Church, which would
be the occasion of much Innovation. To which
also he added, that Excommunication in these
Cases was used to no other end than Outlawries
and Attachments in the Courts of Law and Justice, it being only to bring Parties to their lawful Answers, who upon their appearance are
absolved of course: But yet promised that himself and the rest of the Bishops would take pains
therein themselves; And that no Excommunication should hereafter be sent out but for Adultery and some other weighty Cause, or for such
Contumacies as could not otherwise be possibly
remedied.
The Fifteenth and Sixteenth Articles he acknowledged to stand with good reason, and that
for himself he never granted any dispensation
perpetual, but to one man who was then Aged
eighty Years. And for himself he professed he
would never again allow of any Pluralities for
Life. And that the Original Faculty thereof belonged to her Majesty. Further alledging, that
himself (in the name of their Lordships) did
very well allow of that Proviso of theirs, That
when any temporary Dispensations were granted, provision should be made of very able,
godly and sufficient Curates.
And lastly he added, that because he feared
some of the House of Commons were too ready
to think and speak hardly of that Ancient and
Godly Order of Bishops, yet he desired them
that they would be pleased to think well of himself and the rest of his Brethren now living, if
not in respect of their places, yet for Charity
sake, and for that some of them were Preachers
when many of the House of Commons had been
in their Cradles.
Upon this Relation made by Mr Treasurer
unto the House of Commons touching their Lordships Answer delivered by the Archbishop of
York and the Lord Treasurer to himself and the
rest of the Committees touching the foresaid Petitions, divers Motions and sundry long Speeches
were made; in the conclusion whereof it was at
last agreed, that first the former Committees calling to them such other grave Members of this
House, learned in Divinity and in the Common
Laws of the Realm, and also in Canon Law, as
they shall think good, shall confer together in
the Exchequer Chamber to Morrow in the Afternoon, touching the Answer of the Lords unto this House concerning the Petitions of this
House exhibited unto their Lordships, and after
such Conference and consideration had of the
same Answer, then to resolve for further proceeding therein as then shall be thought meetest
by this House. Vide concerning this business on
Monday the 14th day, Wednesday the 16th day,
and on Monday the 21th day of December foregoing: As also on Monday the 15th day, Tuesday
the 16th, Thursday the 18th, and on Monday the
22th day of this instant February last past.
Mr Wharton one of the Committees in the
Bills touching Curriers Shoomakers, & c. brought
in the old Bill and also a new.
On Friday the 26th day of February, Four
Bills of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the second being a new Bill
against Idleness and Incontinent Life, and for the
punishment of Rogues and Vagabonds, was upon the second reading committed to the former
Committees, and Mr Grafton, Mr Doctor Fletcher,
Mr Alford and Mr Lewkenor were added unto
them, who were appointed to meet to Morrow
in the Afternoon at two of the Clock in the
Middle-Temple Hall.
A Bill against unlawful Licences to Marry was
upon the first reading committed unto Sir Robert Germin, Mr Strickland, Mr Sands, Mr Greenfield
and others, and the Bill was delivered to Mr
Sands, who with the rest was appointed to meet
to Morrow in the Afternoon in the Middle-Temple Hall.
The Bill against unlawful Marriages in some
cases was upon the second reading committed to
the former Committees in the Bill against incontinent life, & c. and the Bill was delivered to
Mr Doctor Fletcher; Mr Beale the Master of
the Requests, and Mr Aldersey were added unto
them.
The Bill for swearing of Bishops and Archbishops was read the second time.
Mr Vice-Chamberlain one of the Committees
for framing of a Bill against fraudulent Conveyances shewed, that the said Committees had met
and travelled therein and drawn a new Bill accordingly; and thereupon delivered in the same
Bill, together with the former old Bill which
was sent from the Lords.
On Saturday the 27th day of February Four
Bill of no great moment had each of them one
reading; of which the last being a Bill for the
maintenance of the Pier and Cobb of Lime-Regis was upon the second reading thereof committed unto Mr Vice-Chamberlain, Mr Fitz James,
Mr Hammon, Mr Hassard and others, and the
Bill was delivered to Mr Hassard, who with the
rest was appointed to meet upon Tuesday the second day of March following in the Afternoon
in the open Court in the Exchequer.
The Bill for bringing in of staple Fish and
Ling had its second reading.
A Proviso to the Bill for Barwick upon Trent
was twice read, and upon the Question it was
resolved, that both the Bill and the Proviso must
not be committed but ingrossed.
The Bill for Preservation of Plymouth Haven
passed upon the Question after the third reading, and was presently sent up to the Lords by
Mr Treasurer and others, with request to their
Lordships to know whether their Lordships have
fought out their Precedents touching the Bill for
the Sabbath day, vide on Wednesday the 17th day
of March ensuing.
Three Bills also of no great moment had each
of them one reading; of which the last being
the Bill for the relief of the Hospital of Eastbridge in Canterbury was read the third time, but
passed not the House, because Mr Sollicitor was
by them appointed to be added to the former
Committees in the Bill, and all of them to consider of the Queens Majesties Interest to an Annual Rent of Seven Pound Ten Shillings issuing out of the possessions of the said Hospital,
that the House being further advertised thereof
the Bill may go to the question.
Mr Treasurer and others coming from the Lords,
he shewed that according to the appointment of
this House they have moved their Lordships to
know their pleasure touching the search of the
Precedents concerning the further proceeding in
the Bill for the better observation of the Sabbath day; and that the Lord Chancellor answered, that the Lords had caused the said Precedents to be searched and do find them true as
they were alledged by the Committees of this
House; saying further, that because both the
said Precedents are but new and only in her
Majesties time, their Lordships would have further search of more ancient Precedents; and then
afterwards their Lordships will make further answer therein unto this House. And the said Mr
Treasurer further then declared, that their Lordships desired that a Committee of this House
might be appointed to have conference with
their Lordships upon Munday next in the Afternoon touching the Bill for the good government of the City of Westminster lately sent from
this House to their Lordships. Vide concerning
this Bill of the Sabbath on Wednesday the 17th
day of March following.
Mr Vice-Chamberlain moved, that the Committees for the framing of the Bill for her Majesties safety, and those also for the Bill for continuance of Statutes which Mr Hammon added
unto them, may meet this Afternoon in the Exchequer Chamber, and those also that are appointed for Conference touching the answer to
the Petitions. Vide concerning these Petitions on the day immediately foregoing, where
further references are made to such other days
upon which they are handled.