Carts and carmen.
II. 176. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
enclosing a petition from the Governors of Christ's Hospital, concerning
the recent decision of the Court of King's Bench against the Validity
of the Acts of Common Council, Committing the ordering and
appointing of carrs and carriages within the City to the said Governors, (fn. 1)
setting forth the great inconvenience which had arisen therefrom,
and praying that these Acts of Common Council, ordered and ratified
after consultation with Her Majesty's officers of the Board of Green
Cloth, might not be brought to trial in any other of Her Majesty's
Courts of Justice, nor examined by such strict laws as might impeach
their force and authority within the City.
30th June, 1601.
II. 177. Letter from the Lords of the Council to the Lord
Mayor, acknowledging the receipt of the petition above mentioned,
and stating that they had determined to hold a conference with the
Lord Chief Justice upon the recent decision, and in the mean time
that they fully approved of the orders heretofore in use, and recommended the same to be continued, and the carmen to be charged in
the name of Her Majesty to disobey them at their peril.
26th July, 1601.
II. 212. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the
Council, certifying the great disorder occasioned in the City by the
refusal of the carmen to obey the order made by the City, and carried
out by the Governors of Christ's Hospital, for their management, and
ordered to be enforced by their Lordships.
30th June, 1601.
II. 216. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
concerning the great increase in the number of carts and carriages,
and certifying to them the refusal of the Woodmongers (fn. 2) to obey
the orders issued for the good government of the traffic within the
28th February, 1601.
II. 248. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
informing them of the steps taken in the complaint made against the
23rd November, 1604.
II. 262. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
as to the supply of 200 carts, with two horses to each, for the removal
of His Majesty's (James I.) effects to Greenwich.
(See "Public Affairs.")
II. 264. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
touching the complaints of the carmen.
31st May, 1606.
II. 274. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lord High Chamberlain (the Earl of Suffolk), (fn. 3) soliciting him to pay the charges due
to the hackneymen and coachmen who removed the King of Denmark
and his train during his abode in England.
12th October, 1606.
II. 315. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Board of Green
Cloth, complaining that the Justices of the County of Surrey had
rated the carmen of the City inhabiting in Southwark, together with
other inhabitants of the Borough, towards a composition for the
carrying of sea coal for the provision of His Majesty's house, and
stating that the Borough of Southwark had never been taken for any
part of the Country of Surrey, but had always been reputed a borough
of itself, and accordingly been known and called by the name of the
King's Borough, whereby the Justices of that County never had
power to demand contributions for a charge whereunto the County
was liable, and that the Borough was under the government of the
City; besides, that the carmen of the City were much employed in
carrying provisions, &c., not only within London, but to Nonsuch,
Richmond, &c. He therefore requested the Board to spare the
carmen and the inhabitants of the Borough the contribution.
31st March, 1608.
II. 323. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Board of Green
Cloth, acknowledging their letter touching the jurisdiction and government of the Borough of Southwark, which had been thought fit to be
heard and determined by the Justices of Assize, and stating that the
Borough of Southwark had been anciently annexed to the government of this City by special grant from the Kings of this realm, and
that the Lord Mayor had no power to refer the hearing to the Justices
of Assize, and further that the service of the carmen dwelling in the
Borough did not depend upon this difference; the carmen of this
City were incorporated by Letters Patent (15 Henry VIII.) and the
number fixed at 400, 100 dwelling in the Borough of Southwark, 200
in the skirts of this City, within the County of Middlesex, and 100 on
the Woodwharves of this City; if it were thought fit that those
100 carts dwelling in Southwark should contribute to the service of
Surrey, why not the 200 for the service of Middlesex? leaving only
100 to carry on the trade of the City; it was not required in the
composition for Middlesex that the carmen of London dwelling
there should perform anything towards the same. He therefore requested their Lordships not to alter the present arrangements, which
had worked well for the service of His Majesty.
10th June, 1608.
II. 332. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
concerning the evil practice of persons not licensed carmen setting up
carts, whereby the number would grow to such an immoderate excess
as to impede the traffic of the streets, and reporting that he had bound
over one Blincorne, a carpenter, to appear to answer the offence before
22nd November, 1608.
II. 333. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the Council,
stating that it had pleased their Lordships, upon the complaint of the
Woodmongers and carmen, when they were under the control of the
Governors of Christ's Hospital, to order and decree that every person
trading with carts should pay four nobles a year, together with four
shillings by way of quarterage for a single cart, and so rateably for
the rest, and that every Woodmonger should pay four marks yearly
towards the finding of a long cart for His Majesty's service, as was
usually paid time out of mind; since which time it had been thought
fit to commit the government of the carmen unto the Woodmongers,
and that every person using carts should pay yearly 13s. 4d. for a
single cart, together with 4s. for quarterage and no more, and that the
number of carts should not exceed 400. He prayed their Lordships
to confirm this agreement.
28th November, 1608.
II. 344. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Board of Green
Cloth, with reference to the providing of long carts for the Royal
service by the keepers of the Woodwharves and the Company of
19th February, 1608.
III. 42. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Lords of the
Council, reciting that the Council had determined that the number of
licensed carts within the City liberties should be limited to 400, and
that none should be permitted unless licensed, and stating that the
Wardens of the Woodmongers (to whom by charter the government
and execution of the orders had been committed) had complained
that one Thomas Morley had set up carrs at his pleasure without
limitation of numbers, order, or licence, and that in accordance with
the orders of the Council, he had bound him over to answer the
complaint before them.
21st March, 1611.
III. 43. Order in Council thereon, directing that Morley should
submit and conform himself to the orders of the Board, or else that
the Lord Mayor should commit him to prison.
22nd March, 1611.
III. 46. Letter from the Lords of the Council to the Lord Mayor,
stating that, notwithstanding their recent order with respect to the
number of carrs to be licensed within the City, complaint had been
made to them by the Company of Woodmongers that certain persons
therein named obstinately refused to obey the said orders, and
requiring him to cause them without delay or excuse to submit themselves, or else to commit them to prison, there to remain until they
20th April, 1611.
III. 100. Letter from the Lord Mayor to the Board of Green
Cloth, stating that the Justices of Surrey were about to rate and
assess the carmen, &c., inhabiting in Southwark towards the composition of wood and coal, and the carriage thereof, for the provision of
the King's house, and reminding the Board that upon a former similar
occasion they had acquitted them from any such charge, but that the
carmen having ignorantly omitted the entry of the order at the time,
the question had been set on foot again; and further requesting the
Board to spare them from any such contributions.
10th July, 1614.
V. 84. Letter from the Lord Bishop of London, (fn. 4) Sir Julius Cæsar, (fn. 5)
and Sir Henry Hobart (fn. 6) (Commissioners to whom the grievances
between the Wharfingers of London, on the one part, and the Woodmongers and Carmen on the other part, had been referred by the
King), to the Lord Mayor and others, stating that having heard the
parties, they had considered the matter, and had put certain points
into writing, which they considered required reformation, and had
forwarded them to the Lord Mayor and the rest, requesting them to
take steps in accordance with their suggestions, but nothing had been
done; they therefore requested that the matter might be determined
as soon as possible, and a certificate of their proceedings forwarded.
27th August, 1620.