Die Jovis, 11 Nov. 1641.
Suit in the Exchequer.
ORDERED, That Mr. Peard shall repair to the
Barons of the Exchequer, to desire them, that they
would make stay of the Suit depending between the
Tenants of Butley in Somersetshire, and Mr. Tho. Simcotts Esquire, &c. till the next Term; in regard the
Tenants prepared themselves for a Hearing in this House,
and that the Agent that followed their Business here,
who has all the Tenants Evidences, is sick in the
Ordered, That Mr. Maynard shall report the Case of
the Election... Arundell To-morrow Morning, the first
St. Michael Bassishaw.
The humble Petition of the Parishioners of St. Michael
Bassishaw, London, was this Day read; and the Articles
annexed unto it.
And Michael Lea, Rob. Brier, Wm. Lacy, and others,
were called in; and did avow the Petition:
And it was Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for scandalous Ministers: And they are to sit, as
to this Business, and the Business of Dr. Fuller, only,
To-morrow Morning at Seven of Clock, in the Inner
Court of Wards. And it is Ordered, That Dr. Fuller
be bailed, upon good Security, in the mean time: And
they are to report the Bill for scandalous Ministers.
It is farther. . . That Dr. Gifford, and the Witnesses
for the Petitioners, be summoned to appear before the
said Committee To-morrow Morning.
Letter to Sheriffs.
A Letter from the Committee, to be sent to the
Sheriffs, was read.
Moved, That it might be sent to the present and succeeding Sheriffs; and to the Mayor and Sheriffs of such
Towns, as are Counties of themselves.
Recompence to Auditors, &c.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for
Poll-money to consider what Recompence is fitting to be
given to the Auditors and Under Clerks, for their Pains
taken in the Service of this House.
A Letter from the Lords Justices in Ireland, of the
Fifth of Nov. directed to Mr. Speaker, was this Day
Ordered, That the Committee for Irish Affairs may
presently meet, and prepare Resolutions to be presented
to the House, upon the Occasion of this Letter, and the
Debate that has hereupon happened:
That the House be forthwith resolved into a Committee, and fall into the Consideration of providing
present Monies for the Expedition into Ireland.
Ordered, That, in the next Express to the Committee
in Scotland, Notice shall be taken of the General's good
Expressions to this Kingdom; and to return him Thanks.
Leave to go to Ireland.
Ordered, That Captain John Digby, a Member of this
House, shall have Liberty to repair into Ireland.
Person to be apprehended.
Mr. Baxter was called in; who, as it was said, could
give Information of Irish that laid dispersed in serveral
Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms attending on this
House, shall seize and apprehend Colonel Fitzwilliams,
and Mr. Roberts, and bring them safe in Custody, to be
examined: And that the Master of the House in Milfordlane, whither the Irish resort for their Pay, be likewise
summoned to appear here: And if any of them shall
refuse to come, that the Serjeant require the Constables,
and other Officers, to be assistant unto him.
Supply for Ireland.
Upon the Question, whether the House should be
forthwith resolved into a Committee:
The House was divided:
The Yeas went forth.
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Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall be
presently resolved into a Committee, to fall into the Consideration of providing present Monies for the Occasions
Mr. Hide was called to the Chair.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Sir John Hotham reports from the Committee for Irish
Affairs * * * *
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Sir
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses in the Painted Chamber, if it may
stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a
Letter, received this Day, from the Lords Justices, and
others of his Majesty's Honourable Privy Council there,
concerning the Troubles and Dangers of that Kingdom.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Sir John Hotham, Mr. Pym, Sir John Colpeper, Sir
Tho. Barrington, Mr. Hide, are appointed Reporters of
Mr. Pym presents, from the Conference, a Letter from
the Lords Justices and Council there, dated 5° Nov. sent
to the Lord Keeper of the Great Seal of England.
A Message from the Lords, by Baron Henden and
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee
of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency
...., concerning Letters of great Importance, sent from
Ireland to the Lords of his Majesty's most Honourable
Answer returned, by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration, and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Ordered, That the same Reporters that were Reporters
of the last Conference, shall be likewise Reporters of this
Mr. Pimme presents, from the Conference, the Lords
Justices Letters to the Lords of his Majesty's most Honourable Privy Council, of the 5th of Nov. and a Copy
of the Manifesto of the Irish, expressing the pretended
Reasons and Grounds of their Rebellion; and divers
Instructions to Committee in Scotland.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and
Sir Edw. Leech;
The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both
Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may
stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning
Instructions to be sent, from both Houses, to the Committees attending his Majesty in Scotland.
Communication to the City.
That the House meet here so soon as the Conference
shall be ended, to consider of sending to the City.
Ordered, That the Gentlemen that serve for the City
shall presently repair to the Lord Mayor, to desire him,
from this House, to call a Common Hall, so soon as with
all possible Diligence they can.
At the Conference the Lords are likewise to be acquainted, that this House intends to send some of their
Members to the City, and to communicate unto them
the Letter from Ireland:- The Manner of it is not yet
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned, by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will forthwith send Answer by Messengers of
Sir H. Vane is appointed to go to the Lords with this
To acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready,
presently, to give a Meeting, by a Committee of both
Houses, as is desired by their Lordships: And likewise
to desire a free Conference, that this House may propound
something on their Part concerning the Affairs of Ireland:
That this House does incline to accept of the Offer
of the Scotts, for sending of Ten thousand Men into
Ireland, under such Conditions, and upon such Cautions,
as shall be honourable and safe for this Kingdom a.
That, unless the Scotts should condescend to be commanded by the Government of English settled in Ireland,
that there is no Intention that any should go at all.
Sir H. Vane brings Answer, That the Lords are willing
that this Conference should be a free Conference, that this
House may propound what they think fit for the Affairs
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Six Thousand
Foot of English, that are already agreed to be raised, and
sent for the Defence of Ireland, shall be made Ten Thousand Foot of English.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Assistance of
Ten Thousand Men for the Occasions of Ireland, shall
be desired of the Scotts, in such manner, and at such
times, as the Parliament shall think fit.
Moved, That Colonel Fitzwilliams be brought hither
To-morrow, to answer such Things as shall be demanded
of him b.
Mr. Pym and Mr. Hollis are appointed Managers of
Ordered, That those Irishmen that are now apprehended
by the Constables of St. Clements, shall be secured till
To-morrow, that the House take farther Order therein:
And that, in the mean time, they be carried to the next
Justices of Peace, to be examined, upon such Matters
as may tend to the Discovery of their Employments.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill for Pressing
of Soldiers do meet To-morrow at Eight of Clock, in
the Inner Star-chamber: And all, that will come are to
have Voices at this Committee.
John Foster was called in: And did avow himself to
be of Worcestershire; and that he had served the King
in the Northern Expedition the last Year and this; and
that he was entertained by Colonel Fitzwilliams, as a Serjeant for the French Service.
Colonel Fitzwilliams was called in:-Confesses he was
before the Committee; and that they told him, that he
should not carry any in a Body.-
Confesses, That he has sent away about Five or Six-and-twenty to his Regiment in Picardie; and More he
has entertained to fill up that Regiment.
Ordered, That Colonel Fitzwilliams, now in the Serjeant's Custody, shall be discharged of any farther
Restraint: And that he shall be required to attend this
House To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock.
Hawkridge's, &c. Propositions.
Ordered, That Ten thousand Pounds shall be forthwith
paid unto Mr. Hawkridge and Mr. Henley. according unto
their Propositions assented unto Yesterday by both
Houses, out of the Eleven thousand Pounds remaining in
ready Cash in the Treasurers Hands for the Subsidies,
and formerly ordered to be paid over to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, for the Occasions of that Kingdom.
It is likewise farther Ordered, That some speedy Course
shall be taken for the Paying them the other Five thousand Pounds, according to their Propositions; and for
securing them Five thousand Pounds more, to be paid
at the time limited by their Propositions; and of taking
Security from them, to perform what, of their Part, is
to be done according to their Propositions.
Mr. Pym reports the Conference with the Lords this
1. They agree to the Publishing of the Letter, which
was this Day received from the Council in Ireland, to
the Lord Mayor and Court of Aldermen, for the Stirring
them up to hasten the Lending of Money: 2. They agree
that the Six thousand Foot of the English * * * *