Die Mercurii, 8 Decembris, 1641.
THE humble Petition of Geffrey Palmer was read;
wherein he did acknowledge his Offence, and the
Justice of the House, and his Sorrow that he had fallen
into the Displeasure of the House.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Geffrey Palmer shall be now discharged from his Imprisonment in
The King's Speech.
According to a former Order of this House, Mr. Solicitor brought a Copy of his Majesty's Speech: Which
was again ordered to be entered into the Journals of this
There were Extracts of several Letters from Ireland,
and Two Copies of Oaths of the Rebels, were this Day
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Three hundred
Carabines, formerly resolved by this House do be raised
in Ireland, shall be raised here in England.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
declare, that they will never give Consent to any Toleration of the Popish Religion in Ireland, or in any other
of his Majesty's Dominions:
That this Debate concerning the Affairs in Ireland
shall be resumed.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and
The Lords desire a Conference, by a Committee, * *
touching certain Instructions that are to be given to the
Commissioners of both Houses, that are appointed to
treat with the Commissioners of Scotland, concerning the
Irish Affairs: Touching a Request made to the King by
the French Ambassador, concerning certain Priests convicted and to be convicted.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting as is desired.
* Pym, Sir John Colpeper, Mr. Hollis, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Fines, Sir Wm. Armyn, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Transactions with Scotland.
Sir John Colpeper reports, that the Lords desired that both Houses would agree upon Instructions, for a Commission to be granted to the Commissioners of both
Houses appointed to treat with the Commissioners of
Scotland, concerning the Irish Affairs:
That the French Ambassador moved his Majesty, that
he would be pleased to grant his Favour to Eight Priests,
that are condemned, or to be condemned this Day; either
to banish them, or to imprison them; and that it would
be advantageous to the Affairs in Ireland.
His Majesty's Answer was, that he would acquaint
his Parliament with his Request; and that then he should
have his Answer.
Lords to sit.
Sir John Clotworthy is appointed to go to the Lords;
to desire they would be pleased to sit awhile.
Tonage and Poundage.
Sir Hen. Vane, junior, Sir John Colpeper, Mr. Pym,
Mr. Glyn, Mr. Hollis, Sir Ro. Pye;
This Committee is to prepare an Order, and to present it to this House, to be presented to the Lords,
whereby the Commissioners for the Treasury, and the
Officers of the Receipt, may be injoined not to dispose
of the Monies received, or to be received, upon the Bill
of Tonage and Poundage, till Provision be made out of
the same for the Defence of the narrow Seas: And are
to meet To-morrow Morning at Eight of the Clock, in
Naval Officers Pay.
Ordered, That the Officers of the Navy do certify this
House, whether the Sums of Money, for which this
House was engaged to see paid unto them, towards the
Setting out of Ships this last Summer, be paid unto them,
out of the Monies received upon the Bill of Tonage and
Poundage; to the End that, if any Part thereof remain
yet behind, that Order may be given, that the same be
paid out of the Monies received upon this Bill of Tonage
Raising Soldiers for Ireland.
Ordered, That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds shall
be forthwith imprest out of the Chamber of London,
upon Account to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, or
such as he shall appoint, for the Raising of Soldiers, to
be presently sent over into Ireland.
Ordered, That the Committee for Irish Affairs do prepare Heads for a Declaration, to be made by this House,
of their Proceedings in the Irish Affairs, and of the Rubs
and Delays that have happened in that Business; and also
to present Reasons to this House, to be delivered at a
Conference to the Lords, to join with this House, to
move his Majesty to declare, that a Toleration of Religion may not be granted to the Rebels in Ireland, nor in
any of his Majesty's Dominions: And they are further
to consider of the Two Forms of Oaths taken by the
Rebels, and of the particular Injuries expressed in that
Oath; and of whatsoever else may conduce to this Business; and to present the same to this House To-morrow
at Twelve of the Clock; together with the Declaration
to be presented to his Majesty, to declare * * * *
Ordered, That this shall be One Head of the Conference: To move the Lords, to join with this House in
the Declaration, that no Toleration of the Popish Religion in Ireland, or any his Majesty's Dominions, may be
ever assented unto by them.
Transactions with Scotland.
Lord Gray went up to the Lords with this Message;
To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses,
concerning the Instructions to be given to Members of
both Houses, appointed as Commissioners to treat with
the Scotts Commissioners, concerning the Irish Affairs.
Answer brought by the Lord Gray, That the Lords
will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Instructions agreed upon to be given to the Commissioners,
nominated by this House, to treat with the Scotts
"You shall be careful to express to the Commissioners
of Scotland, his Majesty's gracious Acceptance, and
the Thanks of both Houses of Parliament, for their
Readiness to assist this Kingdom against the Rebels in
"You shall receive the Answer of the Parliament and
State of Scotland, concerning the Five thousand Men,
which were formerly desired might be sent from thence
into Ireland; and upon what Condition of imprest Money
for raising of them, and Wages for their Entertainment,
or otherwise, they shall be furnished and transported for
his Majesty's Service, and the Assistance of this Kingdom
against the rebellious Irish: And you shall, by the best
ways and means you can, expedite the Raising and Sending over of these Men."
Mr. Pym, Mr. Hampden, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir
John Colpeper, Mr. Hollys, Mr. Glyn, are appointed
Managers of this Conference.